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LegalTorrents Launches Copyright-Compliant Tracker 113

drDugan writes "Many legitimate media providers are using Bittorrent to distribute content, but the recent Pirate Bay legal verdict and closures left many content downloads unavailable. Along with the ongoing legal issues at Mininova and other sites, options have been scarce for legitimate Bittorrent tracking service. Once a torrent is created with a tracker URL, that tracker has to stay running for normal distribution to continue. LegalTorrents.com has quietly launched a solution with three open Bittorent trackers for its members, including a fully automated, community-based flagging system to blacklist and immediately remove copyright-infringing content. Users submit SHA1 hash values for content with infringing materials. Site members can include and track their own published materials regardless of flagging."
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LegalTorrents Launches Copyright-Compliant Tracker

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  • Legal Torrents (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Profane MuthaFucka ( 574406 ) <busheatskok@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @05:01PM (#30065570) Homepage Journal

    Torrents that have been approved by your masters, is more like it.

  • by Interoperable ( 1651953 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @05:12PM (#30065702)

    Exactly, a site and set of trackers dedicated to legal material will facilitate the argument that there are, in fact, legal uses for torrents. This fact is utterly lost on many legislators thanks to the lobbying of Big Content. They need all the help they can get to see beyond the lobbyists and this is a step in the right direction. If the LegalTorrents community can demonstrate that a community can self-regulate to avoid infringement it will make the arguments of the RIAA more transparently false.

    Big Content will eventually die off simply because they aren't needed anymore. Artists no longer need big labels to publish their content and the more tools that artists have to avoid Big Content the better.

  • Re:Legal torrents (Score:3, Insightful)

    by greensoap ( 566467 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @05:13PM (#30065710)
    I don't know the figures, but I would venture to guess that AT&T and Comcast are the two largest ISP's providing DSL and Cable (at least in California). Neither of them block bittorrent, maybe its time to get a new ISP. You know, one that doesn't block legitimate file transfer protocols.
  • Really? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jeffasselin ( 566598 ) <cormacolindeNO@SPAMgmail.com> on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @05:22PM (#30065798) Journal

    Which version of copyrights? The MPAA and the RIAA where fair use doesn't exist? The US one where anti-circumvention tools are legal? The German version where hacking tools are illegal? Or the Canadian version where fair use and privacy actually matter ('till ACTA is signed and forces us to change our laws, at least)? Something might be legal in one situation and not in another. In the end, only the proper authorities and legal system (aka the courts and judges in most countries) of the users can fairly decide what is legal and what isn't.

    And this "community-driven" system for black-flagging "illegal" content looks rife for exploitation.

  • Hashing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by b1ng0 ( 7449 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @05:31PM (#30065900)
    Their SHA1 hashing method will not be sufficient to detect most copyright infringements. Even one bit change in a file will result in a completely different SHA1 hash. I am the creator of pHash [phash.org], which is well suited for this type of similarity search. The hashes do not need to be identical in order to detect duplicate or similar files, and similar files will have hashes that are "close" to one another. This is really what they should be using.
  • by shentino ( 1139071 ) <shentino@gmail.com> on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @06:01PM (#30066334)

    Torrents themselves do not infringe copyrights.

    They might however be unauthorized derived works of the material whose hashes they contain.

    For sure though once a tracker has knowledge that one of their torrents is being used to facilitate copyright infringement they become an accessory if they fail to remove it.

    Copyright infringment is BS. Aiding and abetting, however, I'd be more apt to buy.

  • by Hobophile ( 602318 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @07:04PM (#30067120) Homepage

    and yet you're the only one who is making such an absurd and asinine claim.

    Really?

    In a lawsuit filed in August 2009, BREIN [wikipedia.org] claimed that "80 to 90 percent of all torrents... [link] to copyrighted material." (citation [pcmag.com])

    All that remains is to take the number of torrents on LegalTorrents.com, estimate the number of torrents available through other sites, compare the two numbers, then revise upward the estimate of illegal torrents.

    Absurd and asinine it may be, but such claims are already being made.

    Admittedly, it's overstating the importance of LegalTorrents.com by quite a lot. This is a site that has tried and failed to reinvent itself a number of times over the last six years, and seems destined to fail again.

    But in response to the claim that it will someday support the argument that torrents have substantially non-infringing uses, it's fair to point out that it is far more likely to damage such arguments.

  • Re:Who cares? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by tkw954 ( 709413 ) on Wednesday November 11, 2009 @09:09PM (#30068176)
    I'm not criticizing these film-makers, but it's disingenuous for you to say that this validates some kind of sustainable financial business model. According to the second sentence, "nobody got paid". This sounds like an expensive hobby.

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