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Your Opinion Counts At CNN — But Should It? 383

theodp writes "Some people love how CNN employs Twitter to engage its audience. Not Steve Dahl. 'I am not interested in the take of @stinky on the Fort Hood shootings or any other current events,' complains Dahl of the access the media gives to Internet know-it-alls. 'I am watching CNN because I expect them to gather the news, not act as a clearinghouse for any bonehead with a computer, a cable modem and a half-baked opinion.'"
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Your Opinion Counts At CNN — But Should It?

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  • by i_want_you_to_throw_ ( 559379 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @10:25AM (#30072188) Journal
    I agree. News in America is dead. It turned into entertainment a long time ago. It isn't so much about news anymore as it is about yellow journalism or picking a station that validate one's political views. I stopped watching American news when I discovered BBC news.

    I would say that Edward R Murrow is rolling in his grave, but he was cremated.
  • by nickmalthus ( 972450 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @10:27AM (#30072230)
    CNN will do anything to boost ratings, even fake war coverage [youtube.com] Who would want to watch a news channel that puts corporate profit above journalistic integrity? These guys are right up there with faux news.
  • Re:Who's Steve Dahl (Score:2, Informative)

    by Ground0 ( 63349 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @10:29AM (#30072238)

    Long time Chicago DJ and part of the radio team that blew up part of the Chicago White Sox basefield to protest disco - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition [wikipedia.org]

  • Re:Who's Steve Dahl (Score:4, Informative)

    by Lil'wombat ( 233322 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @11:25AM (#30073082)

    Close. Steve Dahl is a former #1 rated daytime talk radio host turned weekly columnist for the Chicago Tribune when his the balance of his contract was bought out and a non-compete in place during a radio format change. His contribution to history was the 1979 riot at Cominsky Park during a double header intermission. The riot occurred during the Disco Demolition entertainment event when a large pile of records (discounted admission if you brought a record) was exploded in center field.

    I think Steve Dahl would agree that your statement is only 2/3rds correct.

    a better statement

    A professional idiot with a Mac and a DSL

  • by tmk ( 712144 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @11:27AM (#30073112)
    The real problem: CNN has no real interest in facts anymore. interview the extremists on every side and leave it there.

    Jon Steward has something to say about the problem [thedailyshow.com]
  • Re:Comments (Score:4, Informative)

    by Duradin ( 1261418 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @11:35AM (#30073218)

    It's not just the masses commenting on articles that are incredibly stupid, their (CNN) reporters and correspondents aren't much better (and their talking heads are nearly as bad).

    During the coverage of the Fort Hood shooting, they had a reporter saying:
    "He had two pistols, one a semi-automatic of a type favored by the narco gangs, so you know how deadly it is." No, I don't know how deadly it is. Other than being a semi-auto pistol I have no clue what brand let alone model he was talking about. He never mentioned the actual weapons.

  • by gedrin ( 1423917 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @11:51AM (#30073482)
    I'd be cautious about creating a mechanism that defines and limits "legitimate reporters", as that's a pretty good way of limitting "legitmate news".
  • Re:Yeah! (Score:3, Informative)

    by Comboman ( 895500 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @12:05PM (#30073660)
    If we eliminated the weapon, we could even eliminate the block against modding and posting in the same discussion: after all, the only reason it's there is so that people don't downmod their opponents

    I've always assumed the block on modding and posting was to keep people from modding their own comments up and boosting their karma.

  • by gedrin ( 1423917 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @12:39PM (#30074084)
    Since FOX has more viewers than all other cable news outlets combined, I'm pretty sure they don't need any validation. Of course, the prevailing view is that FOX just attracts jingoistic idiots and that their ratings have nothing to do with the quality of their product being any good. There may be some issues of professionalism and qulity of product with other outlets. Then again I could have missed Shepard Smith calling the President's supporters "balls to face".
  • by WheelDweller ( 108946 ) <WheelDweller@@@gmail...com> on Thursday November 12, 2009 @01:11PM (#30074640)

    CNN routinely gets trashed by The Daily Show and John Stewart; their DECADES of siding with the democrats are very, very, very well known. Much like ABC is known for putting C4 into pickup trucks to suggest they'd blow up. These are hacks, not journalists!

    I just got back from Washington DC at a huge protest. NOT ONE of these lame media outlets even reported that it happened, CNN was no different. People are raging at the takeover of liberty and these news organizations have their noses planted deeply up the DNC's ass.

    The lone dissenter to these guys is Fox News; funny how 'the fringe' has a typical FOUR TIMES the ratings of this and other, lesser outlets. Can't you guys allow yourselves to see what's going on, here?

    You guys learned to code! You learned to wire! You learned to internet, Python, find larger prime numbers and turn DNA into music....but you can't see the huge push to stamp out freedom? Wake up, guys!

  • by freedomseven ( 967354 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @01:44PM (#30075416)

    What your are talking abstractly about is the Sean Hannity's, Glen Beck's and Bill O'Reily's, Mike Pappantonio's and Keith Olbermann's of the world. These people are called commentators and they make their living saying outrageous things.

    Fox doesn't have to "manufacture support" the proof is in their ratings which they continue to dominate. There was another network that tried to make a living pushing there own agenda. Air America went broke because no one wanted to hear what they had to say.

    Before you call these events manufactured, you should probably try attending one.

  • by freedomseven ( 967354 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @02:27PM (#30076228)

    I am a little confused. Is it really more important to you to criticize commentators on Fox News for being active participants in the political process than it is to criticize the other media for abjectly ignoring important stories? Which do you think is worse?

    Are you honestly subscribing to Anita Dunn's assertion that Fox News is an active architect of Republican policy? As an active member of the Republican party, I can assure you that Fox News VERY often ignores things that the party would like covered and relentlessly pursues things that we wish they would leave alone.

  • Re:Yeah! (Score:4, Informative)

    by Shotgun ( 30919 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @02:39PM (#30076480)

    EXACTLY!

    Which is why I don't throw chairs at people that just want a phone that makes calls. It can't be an iPhone, because they suck and I don't own a TV anymore...and I'm glad of it. Nothing to watch since Farscape is gone.

  • Re:Comments (Score:2, Informative)

    by Shotgun ( 30919 ) on Thursday November 12, 2009 @02:54PM (#30076714)

    Watch the coverage of any "demonstration" shown on any news show. They try their hardest to get a camera angle to show it in a "bigger" light than it actually is. Usually they'll do close-ups of the cardboard posters of the 3 people that did show up. All the new outlets are in the controversy manufacturing business. It sells adds.

    And a lot of people were quite miffed at the Obama worship hour.

  • Anyone who has good karma isn't going to post GNAA posts.

    You may notice that your karma maxes out at "excellent." In ancient times, slashdot used to have a points system with no ceiling, so you could accumulate karma levels OVER NINE THOUSAND!!! Trolls would karma whore until they achieved insane karma levels, then skydive from karma heaven with an epic trolling spree. That's why the new system has a ceiling - if you tried something like that now, your karma would run out quickly.

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