Ursula Le Guin's Petition Against Google Books 473
Miracle Jones blogs about the petition against the Google Book Settlement created by science fiction writer Ursula Le Guin, winner of five Hugo awards and six Nebulas. Le Guin is urging professional writers who are opposed to the terms of the settlement to sign her online petition before the January 28th deadline. From the petition: "The free and open dissemination of information and of literature, as it exists in our Public Libraries, can and should exist in the electronic media. All authors hope for that. But we cannot have free and open dissemination of information and literature unless the use of written material continues to be controlled by those who write it or own legitimate right in it. We urge our government and our courts to allow no corporation to circumvent copyright law or dictate the terms of that control."
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:5, Informative)
No, she's saying that while copyright on the document is in effect that no corporation shall infringe upon that copyright.
Disney wants "copyright == infinity".
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Begs question (Score:3, Informative)
*casts fireward on himself*
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:5, Informative)
Le Guin does not in fact support the 'Disney model', e.g. here:
http://www.ursulakleguin.com/Copyright.html [ursulakleguin.com]
she describes the Sonny Bono act as "the recent excessive extension of copyright term by the U.S.A, which has imperilled the international copyright system". She just doesn't want to be screwed over by Google in a land grab deal negotiated by an 'Authors Guild' that doesn't represent her.
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:2, Informative)
How about actually not spreading obvious bullshit.
The notion that a copyright should last for the entire life of an author is a very new thing. It's only due to relatively recent (within a generation) changes in the law that works are automatically under copyright, don't require registration, don't require renewal and don't EXPIRE within a generation.
While a 5 year term is extreme, it is infact more consistent with modern copyright law then the perpetual extensions that happen now.
What I find peculiar about Miss Hugo is the fact that she talks up libraries while then whining about "control" when it comes to Google.
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:5, Informative)
There is a reason they call it the Mickey Mouse Protection Act.
"In addition to Disney (whose extensive lobbying efforts inspired the nickname "The Mickey Mouse Protection Act"), California congresswoman Mary Bono (Sonny Bono's widow and Congressional successor) and the estate of composer George Gershwin supported the act. Mary Bono, speaking on the floor of the United States House of Representatives, said:
Actually, Sonny wanted the term of copyright protection to last forever. I am informed by staff that such a change would violate the Constitution. ... As you know, there is also [then-MPAA president] Jack Valenti's proposal for term to last forever less one day. Perhaps the Committee may look at that next Congress."
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:5, Informative)
New? 162 years? [wikipedia.org] The registration bullshit is of course U.S. only, not elsewhere [wikipedia.org] (1886), and is obviously grossly unfair to those who don't speak the language of bureaucracy.
Neither I nor LeGuin have advocated perpetual extensions, only the author's rights, so I don't see why you bring it up. I don't support perpetual copyrights, nor renewal of copyrights.
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:5, Informative)
As per the Bern Convention, French copyright law doesn't apply in America, the French are simply afforded the same copy protections as a US citizen would have when there is a case of infringement of a Frenchman's work in America, and vice versa and for all signatories of the Bern convention. There are minimums set in the Bern convention, but they were in line with what US copyright law already stated at the time, and they were nowhere near the roughly 140 year terms we have now.
US Copyright law was never significantly altered because of the Bern Convention except to extend the copyright protections to non-citizens (specifically, citizens of signatory countries).
The reason we have the outrageous copyright extensions is because large corporations (Disney being the most adamant) lobbied like hell for them. They were never instated based on another country's laws except as an argument for them. It was more like Disney saying "Look, the French do it, why can't we?" and dumbasses in congress actually listening to them.
Re:The French would disagree (Score:3, Informative)
This idea that artists control their work forever is unfair to everyone.
The French would disagree with this. They have single handedly foisted on the world ever longer copyrights since the 19th century. I don't know why the French are this way, but given that they have invented croissants, mayonaisse and champagne, I'm inclined to believe them.
So it looks like the French are our new political football in America. Liberals loved the French when they were anti-war, and now, here we are, conservatives, saying, "hey, look at how great France is", in order to support copyrights.
Oh France! Some Americans will always hate you, but America as a whole will always love you!
Ironically enough the French stole the croissant from the Austrians - perhaps Vienna should lodge a DMCA takedown notice against every patisserie in Paris.
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:4, Informative)
Copyright is about protecting publishers' rights, not the creators'
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:huh? (Score:3, Informative)
"Vaster than Empires and More Slow", collected in her anthology The Wind's Twelve Quarters [wikipedia.org]
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:3, Informative)
Google doesn't have special privileges. Any company is free to negotiate the same terms.
Re:Which corporations does Le Guin mean? (Score:4, Informative)
No. Google's model only applies to orphaned books, ones that don't have an identifiable owner. Both you and Le Guin want us to believe that Google can use any book they want whenever they want without permission.
Re:It'a an attempt to do "public domain". (Score:4, Informative)
Actually Google don't have sole rights - you can have the same rights if you want.
AFAIK Googles deal is non-exclusive so you can get the exactly same deal.
Re:It'a an attempt to do "public domain". (Score:3, Informative)
This article does not specifically cover non-exclusivity, but that was another issue that changed in the revision.