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China's Great Firewall Infects Other Countries 178

Posted by Soulskill
from the trial-run-successful dept.
angry tapir writes "A networking error has caused computers in Chile and the US to come under the control of the Great Firewall of China, redirecting Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube users to Chinese servers. Security experts are not sure exactly how this happened, but it appears that at least one ISP recently began fetching high-level DNS information, from what's known as a root DNS server, based in China. That server, operated out of China by Swedish service provider Netnod, returned DNS information intended for Chinese users, effectively spreading China's network censorship overseas."
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China's Great Firewall Infects Other Countries

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  • Misleading (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ClownPenis (1315157) on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:03PM (#31629696)
    Misconfiguration of resolv.conf does not put China's firewall in your way. Add yourself to the tool belt.
  • Re:Now... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by JWW (79176) on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:17PM (#31629940)

    Which, proves the point that perhaps China should not be allowed to have any DNS root servers.

    I would say that if a DNS server does not return the same information as all other root servers in the world that it should not be allowed to be a root server.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:21PM (#31630008)

    Your rampant racism not withstanding, that was an idiotic post.

    China cannot 'take our DNS down'. In worst case scenario, the world would just disconnect from China if that were to happen.

  • Re:Nice headline (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Jurily (900488) <jurily@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:22PM (#31630014)

    Have they ever?

  • Re:Pfft. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by einhverfr (238914) <chris.travers@gma[ ]com ['il.' in gap]> on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:25PM (#31630056) Homepage Journal

    Also, the internet routes around censorship? Ooops....

  • Re:Now... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Third Position (1725934) on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:29PM (#31630114)

    Now will somebody tell them to keep their sh*t for them? Or are we too weak to talk frankly to Chinese authorities?

    Well, I suppose it pays to talk real sweet to a country that pretty much owns us now.

  • Re:Uh Huh (Score:3, Insightful)

    by ircmaxell (1117387) on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:42PM (#31630332) Homepage
    Well, that's assuming that the ISP actually made that configuration. There are a number of other possibilities (Such as someone hacked those servers, someone silently redirect queries from the actual root server to the China one, etc). Regardless of how the issue came about, the fact that China had those systems in place makes them at least partially responsible (not from a legal perspective, but from a philosophical one) for people not reaching their destination...
  • by buswolley (591500) on Friday March 26, 2010 @02:52PM (#31630490) Journal
    bullshi+. Bush, Reagan were huge debt creators. Now you blame Obama for the increase in debt when the bailout was designed by Bush in the first place, and also necessary to keep this economy from falling flat on its face by the greedy, uncontrolled and short-sighted bankers. The war? How expensive has that been? Besides, healthcare is national defense and will reduce abortions by providing effective birth control to women more often. Bug the f off.
  • by jizziknight (976750) on Friday March 26, 2010 @03:32PM (#31631036)
    Except that the Chinese government would be perfectly happy to be cut off from the rest of the Internet. If we cut them off, they can just blame it on the US and claim they've done nothing to censor anything. You'd be giving them exactly what they wanted.
  • Re:Pfft. (Score:5, Insightful)

    by TheRaven64 (641858) on Friday March 26, 2010 @03:48PM (#31631314) Journal
    Not really surprising, because the root DNS servers are not yet all signed with DNSSEC and Verisign is dragging its heels when it comes to implementing DNSSEC in the .com domain. Apparently there isn't much real-world use for DNSSEC. Nice to have a concrete counter-example - thanks China.
  • Re:Now... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by radtea (464814) on Friday March 26, 2010 @03:58PM (#31631436)

    China can have all the root servers they want - just don't configure your server to poll them.

    Actually China is demonstrably incapble of having any working root servers at all. A DNS server that returns incorrect information is not a "root" server, if by "root" you mean "authoritative source of DNS information that resolves domain names properly."

    It's really too bad that China is incapable of hosting DNS root servers. Hopefully by the end of the 21st century China will be a little less backward and isolated from the rest of the world, which would benefit greatly from interaction with so many people from such diverse cultural and political backgrounds.

  • by bigmattana (646048) on Friday March 26, 2010 @04:41PM (#31632094)
    "Besides, healthcare is national defense and will reduce abortions"
    What? I do not follow this logic or see what it has to do with government spending.

    "Now you blame Obama for the increase in debt when the bailout was designed by Bush in the first place"
    The bailout was necessary, but implementation was rushed, ineffective, and more expensive than it should have been. That it was caused in any way by Bush is almost laughable, but at the very least debatable. Economic policies and deregulation that got us to that point happened mostly in the 90s under the pretense of helping low-income families obtain mortgages. As soon as these were passed in the late 90s, the housing bubble began to build. http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqrguz/housingbubble/ [verizon.net]
    The fallout in 2008 was a result of this bubble finally bursting. It was worse than the tech bubble bursting in the late 90s because it affected securities that have always been considered safe by institutional investors.

    The bailout is only part of the spending increases under Obama, which together dwarf the $1Trillion expense of the war. (Which Obama is continuing and actually spending more on.) The other huge part is the stimulus bill which was mostly ineffective (what do you expect from a package special interest pork disguised as a stimulus bill?) and our jobless rate is worst that what was predicted by the administration if the bill were never passed.


    I get your frustration. Obama did not get us to this point and should not be given all the blame. But he sure seems to be doing a great job at making it worse.

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