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Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor? 318

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the universal-healthcare-and-captain-kirk dept.
just fiddling around writes "Now that Michaëlle Jean is approaching the end of her customary five-year post as Governor General of Canada, the rumor mill has started on who Prime Minister Steven Harper will propose to the Queen in her stead. According to the CBC, the short list includes Captain Kirk, actor William Shatner. It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California."
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Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor?

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  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:35AM (#32652960)
    You...pitted...us...againsteachother. You...wanted...me..todoyourbidding. You...want...me...tobeyourgovernor. Well...I...WON'T...DO...IT!
  • As a Canadian (Score:3, Insightful)

    by epiphani (254981) <epiphani@nospAM.dal.net> on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:35AM (#32652962)

    I say: fuck that noise.

    • Re:As a Canadian (Score:5, Insightful)

      by epiphani (254981) <epiphani@nospAM.dal.net> on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:45AM (#32653178)

      I suppose I should qualify that statement. Everything I have read about William Shatner gives me the impression the man is a dick. If placed against someone (who has some reasonable buzz about him in this specific context) such as Romeo Dallaire [wikipedia.org], how does William Shatner measure up? This is no minor office - and the person who occupies it should be one of exceptional quality. Michelle Jean, my issues with her handling of Harper aside, was a person that could be looked up to for her journey through life and her efforts to support those less fortunate.

      What has William Shatner done to deserve this?

      As far as I'm concerned, he shouldn't even be mentioned among such people has Romeo Dallaire or Michelle Jean.

      • Re:As a Canadian (Score:5, Interesting)

        Aw come on, let's be brutally honest here - GG of any commonwealth country is a ceremonial position. Your job, such as it is, is to go around and do photo ops and shit like that. You're the Queen's representative, and she has no power or responsibilities, so Shatner will have even less.

        This is actually a pretty good choice. As a Canadian, I'm more than happy for Kirk to be the guy schmoozing on behalf of my country.
        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by Mashiki (184564)

          You seem to forget that in Canada the GG has official duties which they're required to follow through for the operation of the country. Half of it is public junk the other half is government. Saying that the GG has no power or responsibilities, is the same as saying the PM doesn't lead his party, and isn't responsible for cabinet positions.

          • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

            Saying that the GG has no power or responsibilities, is the same as saying the PM doesn't lead his party, and isn't responsible for cabinet positions.

            No, you're being disingenuous. Yes, technically, the Queen (and by extension, her representatives, the GGs of commonwealth countries), holds all the power. But in reality, the GG is a messenger boy at best. If he or the Queen actually tried to exert their paper authority, it would start a constitutional crisis.
            • by Arivia (783328)
              You mean the King-Byng Affair?
            • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

              by Anonymous Coward

              If you think it's purely ceremonial, look back to December of 2008 where, at the behest of under-fire PM Stephen Harper, agreed to prorogue (suspend) parliament until the end of January to avoid a confidence vote scheduled for the following Monday in which the government was widely expected to lose.

              http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/04/harper-jean.html

              "Monday's no-confidence vote could have precipitated the rise of a proposed Liberal-NDP coalition, supported by the Bloc Québécois, or could hav

            • by walshy007 (906710)
              Governer-generals are there to solve these matters, not create them. [wikipedia.org]

              Yes the role is ceremonial... until it's needed, sometimes that level of power is needed.

            • Re:As a Canadian (Score:4, Insightful)

              by Mashiki (184564) <mashiki @ g m a i l . com> on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @10:45AM (#32654058) Homepage

              No, you're being disingenuous.

              No you're being dense at not understanding how a parliamentry system works with a functioning GG, especially in Canada. More so in Canada because of the Charter, compared to other commonwealth countries.

            • Re:As a Canadian (Score:5, Insightful)

              by BlueStraggler (765543) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @10:58AM (#32654268)
              Well, she alone has the power to summon and dissolve parliament, which is hardly ceremonial. She's basically the referee between rivals for the government, and considering that we have a minority government right now, and may soon have another, the referee's job is pretty significant. It only seems like there isn't much power there because the current minority has been pretty stable, and the previous majorities haven't needed much refereeing.
        • by epiphani (254981)

          I don't know about you, but I'd like our purely ceremonial head of government to be taken seriously both at home and abroad.

          Oh, and the position is ceremonial - until it's not.

        • by dubbreak (623656)

          This is actually a pretty good choice. As a Canadian, I'm more than happy for Kirk to be the guy schmoozing on behalf of my country.

          Seconded.

          Would I want him as a premier or worse yet prime minister? Hell no. However, having someone used to being in front of a camera and group speaking that is known throughout the world is exactly what you want for the role of GG.

          How many people in other countries know who Canada's current GovGen is? How about how many Canadians? I had to look it up (I got the last two mixed up somehow). Having Shatner as GG would ensure ALL canadians know who the current GG is and a lot of the world (well maybe the

        • Well that's what you'd think, unless the shit hits the constitutional fan, as it did in Australia in 1975. I think you want someone with serious backbone in the position. [wikipedia.org]

        • The recent proroguing of parliament in Canada, twice, has been very controversial and is one of the decisions actually made by the GG.

          There are a few other important ones, and while the job is ceremonial probably 90%+ of the time, those few occasions would lead one to want someone with at least a little concept of good governance.

      • however, you are forgetting that the GG is a shallow powderpuff position

        therefore, give the shallow powderpuff person the shallow powderpuff position, and give the serious meaningful people you list serious meaningful positions

        it would be insulting, as you say, to give a shallow powderpuff a serious meaningful position in spite of other serious meaningful candidates

        but it is equally insulting to give a serious meaningful candidate a shallow powderpuff position

        • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

          by ultranova (717540)

          Powderpuff is just a single letter away from Powerpuff. If someone wants a powderpuff position, then maybe they know something you don't. For example, the Communist Party of good old Soviet Russia should really had thought more about who [wikipedia.org] they appointed as a secretary [wikipedia.org]...

  • Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor?

    The only 'short list' I could find referenced was simply which Facebook groups had the most members. If anyone else can find anything worth noting from this article other than the fact that Star Trek fans are more numerous on Facebook than Leonard Cohen fans ... let me know. PROTIP: Facebook is not a cross section of the populace nor does that cross section necessarily think they are voting for William Shatner as Governor General when they click a tiny button to join that group. A flippant mouse click can be just as much a joke or laugh than it can be a true desire.

    • Might Shatner Boldly Lead Canada As Governor?

      The only 'short list' I could find referenced was simply which Facebook groups had the most members.

      Oh come on, next you will be saying that this is not news for Nerds. At least it is a current story!

    • by e4g4 (533831) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:43AM (#32653132)
      Yeah, as always - the summary is a little off. Shatner is by no means on the "short list". The "short list" has three people (who look like they're actually appropriate candidates) on it, the article happens to also mention two entries from the much longer list of "who the internet thinks it would be funny if they were nominated for this position".
    • While I agree it's not really anything to report on YET, but don't doubt the power of something like facebook. It's not official polls but they can give some insight on people's opinions. Granted, this one is a bit of nerd-out kind of group, but suppose there was a group "I don't want our troops overseas" that had say... 3 Million + members. Think that might send a message?

      • "I don't want our troops overseas" that had say... 3 Million + members. Think that might send a message?

        It might. But what I meant by cross section was that you're not sampling Canada, you're sampling Facebook. Are all the members Canadian? Does the group have a solid representative amount of Inuit? What about the elderly?

        The problem with your proposed group of three million against the war is the simple fact that it is highly probable that users with internet connections heavily using Facebook and joining Facebook groups are biased towards liberal ideals. I'm not claiming that, I'm just stating the

        • I know its not going to reach everyone, thats why a pro or anti group managing to get to 3 Million members is only 3 million members and not the full population of Canada.

          And I think apathy for voting is a bigger issue than people being technologically incapable. You probably have more 18 and 19 year olds who don't vote but are on Facebook than you have people in regions of Canada without access to the internet. I don't have any stats to back that up so take that with a grain of salt. Our company has branch

      • ...suppose there was a group "I don't want our troops overseas" that had say... 3 Million + members. Think that might send a message?

        A message that 1% of the US population supports something? I don't think that would be a very meaningful message.

    • This is a retarded story. The only mention of Shatner in the whole FA is this:

      One of the more controversial names being thrown out there on Facebook is that of Captain Kirk, actor William Shatner.

      "It's time for Canada to boldly go where no country has gone before," notes a nearly 10,000-strong Facebook fan page that supports the idea.

      There might have been another submission that could have been rejected that included this link [www.cbc.ca], but, again, basically right off the bat, you see:

      The Facebook fan page "Help Nominate William Shatner for Governor General" launched on March 22, 2010.

      The OP is an asshole for submitting this as a serious story and writing the summary as if it were legit, and Taco, representative of all the editors I suppose, is being irresponsible for posting such a bullshit story like this on the front page.

      Many people have been lamenting that the quality of stories have been going down in Slashdot. I don't really have that much of a gripe about that. I don't come to Slashdot for breaking news or the like. But when you start to post flat out falsehoods (there is no shortlist, there's not even a rumour, it's just a god damn Facebook group), that's when you cross the line into tabloidism. Horrible.

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        Taco, representative of all the editors I suppose, is being irresponsible

        Now I know you're new here!

        Seriously, this is SOP. Learn to love it or learn to be disappointed.
    • by Rogerborg (306625)
      Slashdot will stop trolling us when we stop biting.
  • Governor GENERAL ... (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward

    It's not Governor. It' Governor General. It's in the summary, but not in the headline.

    Canada has a different system of government, and we don't have Governors per se.

    • and we don't have Governors per se.

      Yes we do. We just call them Premiers. Having said that: Taco, fix the fucking headline already, you dumb american hick.
  • Not just CA (Score:3, Interesting)

    by CheshireCatCO (185193) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:37AM (#32653002) Homepage

    It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California."

    Like... the United States [whitehouse.gov] (which isn't entirely composed of California, in spite of rumors)?

    • It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California."

      Like... the United States (which isn't entirely composed of California, in spite of rumors)?

      I hear that the president often operates outside of California:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan [wikipedia.org]

      • by mooingyak (720677)

        So in this thread, we say the words 'president' and 'California' and then link to a page about Reagan? You guys already covered the top two google hits, so here's #3 [ronaldreagan.com]

  • Shatner will boldly go where no Canuck has gone before?

  • Highest Offices (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MarvinIsANerd (447357) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:41AM (#32653074)

    "It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California"

    Absolutely. Forgotten about our 40th president of the United States, have we?

    • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

      by Hognoxious (631665)

      No, he just has a stricter definition of what constitutes acting. Obviously not that strict, though...

      • Re: (Score:3, Funny)

        by Mr Z (6791)

        Wait, are you saying Arnie's a better actor than Ronnie? Hmm... if you took the ratio of their talent, I think you'd have to apply L'Hopital's rule to figure out whether the ratio was above or below 1. ;-)

  • by Dzimas (547818) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:42AM (#32653102)
    Shatner isn't bilingual, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position. Also note that the Canadian Governor General is essentially powerless in modern government - similar to the role played by the Queen. While, theoretically, the GG has the ability to impact parliamentary procedures in rare circumstances, it's not real power. Instead, the GG gives speeches, meets dignitaries, and spends a lot of time paying respect to unlucky soldiers arriving back from Afghanistan in coffins.
    • by gstoddart (321705)

      Shatner isn't bilingual, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position.

      Shatner has lived in Hollywood for ages, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position.

      For all intents and purposes, he's an American at this point.

      • by H0p313ss (811249)

        Shatner isn't bilingual, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position.

        Shatner has lived in Hollywood for ages, which is a serious strike against anyone vying for the GG position.

        For all intents and purposes, he's an American at this point.

        Yup, I would be insulted as a Canadian if he (Or quite frankly any other actor) were appointed. Nice guy and all, but just not a GG candidate.

        We have had a couple of very successful journalists do the job, but there's a huge difference between a veteran reporter and a veteran actor.

    • bilingual if... by that... you mean ... that he... groups his... words in... groups of ... two? The... random emphasis ... and random... questions are... useless though?

    • Shatner isn't bilingual

      Wow, way to spit in the eye of a native Montrealer. Mod parent down: -1 Incorrect.
      • by H0p313ss (811249)

        Shatner isn't bilingual Wow, way to spit in the eye of a native Montrealer. Mod parent down: -1 Incorrect.

        I went to high school in Montreal. Half of my family live there and I can say unequivocally that "native Montrealer" != "bilingual"

        Now, it is probably the highest concentration of (English/French) bilingual people in Canada. But saying that he must be bilingual because he from Montreal is like saying that someone must be Cajun because they're from New Orleans.

        • But saying that he must be bilingual because he from Montreal

          Never said that, was just pointing out that parent was incorrect in a very curt fashion.
        • by H0p313ss (811249)

          N.B. I'm not saying he doesn't... I'm just saying the logic is faulty. Similarly it's not terribly insulting to call an Anglo Montrealer of his generation mono-lingual. In fact you'd sort of expect an Anglo of his age who left Montreal over 40 years ago to either not speak French at all or to speak it very badly.

          (I seem to actually recall him speaking French at some point... and my recollection is that it was not pretty... but I have never met him not tried to speak French with him so my faulty memory has l

  • Sorry dude, she's already married! You will never be king.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by merichards (1529041)
      Sorry, but the current queen is a queen regnant (her parent was the monarch, so she inherited), therefore her husband is not the king, he's simply the Prince Consort. So even if she wasn't married, you couldn't become king by marrying her. In other words, there's no point bumping off the current Danish / Greek incumbent.
  • Coz yes, he's an icon to the Trekkies, but he is such a bad actor, I hope he will be better as Governor General...
  • by Conchobair (1648793) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @09:44AM (#32653140)
    KHHHHAAAAAAAANADA!
  • Is it April Fools again already?!?
  • In high school there was a small group of miscreants who took the phrase "To boldly go where no man has gone before" to new depths of depravity. To this group to "Shatner" was to eliminate bodily waste in a place where it was presumed "no man has gone before."

    One year at homecoming it was reported that somebody had "Shatnered" on the 50 yard line.

    • by Bigjeff5 (1143585)

      Well, shat is the past tense of shit, so to "Shatner" is a nice pun, and clearly conveys the rules of the game without having to state them at all.

  • It seems that acting can lead to the highest offices in places other than California.

    Or.... the entire USA [wikipedia.org] perhaps? (Although admitedly he was also the Govenor of California before that apparently if wikipedia is to be believed).

    • by Bigjeff5 (1143585)

      Yeah, but that was like, a billion years ago.

      We need relevance man, relevance!

      What's funny about this story though, is Shatner isn't actually on any short list for GG. There is a facebook movement to put him there.

      In other words, the whole summary is a complete fucking lie. Gotta love Slashdot!

  • June 1st is Canada Day! Congratulations to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, on the occasion of what will be her 58th anniversary as head of state of the Dominion of Canada! All loyal Canadians, bow your heads to royalty! (Hey, Obama did it so it's not all bad).
    • July 1st. I said it already! No more corrections please. Darn four-letter months sound the same. (bet there are already 3 replies while I wait for my "slow down cowboy!" 120 second repost time)
  • I'm tired of all these artist/journalist GGs. Let's get the job back to it's proper political patronage role. Forget about political correctness, the criteria should be: which old white guy raised the most money for the party in power.

  • Imagine - him - reading - the - speach - from - the - throne - .
  • Donny Crane. Sure it was an acting gig, but there are a lot of "screen moments" that can be extracted.

    What is politics but a PR play and Canada's current prime minister is way to image conscious to go anywhere near a Donny Crane.

    Infidelity. Check.
    Gay Marriage. Check.
    Insensitivity. Check.
    Politically Incorrect. Check.

  • And all dared to brave unknown terrors, to do mighty deeds, to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before - and thus was the Empire forged."

    If Shatner has any government post in Canada, I think the US north better stop whining about how we need to build a fence down south and start worrying about how we can reinforce the longest previously unprotected border in the world.

  • "might shatner boldly lead canada ?"

    I thought Picard was bold, not Kirk.

  • by theshowmecanuck (703852) on Tuesday June 22, 2010 @10:16AM (#32653656) Journal

    This is very old news in Canada. And no he won't. He doesn't even want the job, and the government is not considering him.

    And it is "Governor General" not governor. It is an appointed position akin to say the most ceremonial presidential position in some republics. That is, before a law can come into effect it must be signed off by the GG. It is called Royal Assent. The GG represents the Queen of Canada (Elizabeth II) in Canada, and the monarch of the constitutional monarchy must approve all laws before they can come into effect. However, the GG by tradition always gives Royal Assent at the request of the Prime Minister. However most people don't realize that the GG doesn't HAVE to sign. It is a form of check or balance in the system. Of course this would likely never happen except in the rarest of circumstance.

    Royal Assent must also be given in England as well before a law created in Parliament can go into effect. Of course in their case, the Queen signs it herself.

    Before the 20th century, it was more common for the monarch to be able to withhold Royal Assent than today (less political repercussions back then). It is this ability to withhold Royal Assent that lent itself to the American Presidential Veto.

  • The governor of California has quite a bit more power over his "subjects" than the governor general of Canada has over his. The governor of California is an executive, the governor general of Canada is a figurehead who stands in for the crown when they are unavailable for ceremonies.
  • But yesterday, you didn't even know that Canukistan had a "Governor General", and today you're debating the merits of the candidates, just because some random intartubes nobody started a Facebook page with Shatner's name on it.

    What I say about Shatner is that the the strong-greaved Achaians and the spear-Danes of old may be gone, but a God walks amongst us still and he wants to make love to the mountain [youtube.com].

  • I guickly perused two wikipedia articles: one on Shatner and the other on Schwarzenegger. Shatner has a formal education at a the respectable McGill University whereas Schwarzenegger's education beyond high school is a bit murky. Arnold is well known for his philandering, his get tough on crime politics, and his pro death penalty stance. Arnold's lack of higher education and narcicisstic personality made him a poor choice for representing the will of the people but instead wanting to impose his own will.
    • "Arguably, Schwarzenegger is responsible for the veritable demise of the middle class in California. "

      As a Californian, I'll take that argument. You give the office way more power than it has. I would suggest the legislature, through which the Governor must pass all legislation, has done more to harm the middle class than anything Muscleman could do. They have driven all business out and welcomed migrants and illegals with open arms, using our money to give them all manner of free programs, licenses, housing, medical, education, you name it, I wouldn't put a bet on anything they haven't given out using my m

  • This thread is now about the governor of Canada saying funny $#*!.

  • You mean like Washington DC [wikipedia.org]?

It's a naive, domestic operating system without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption.

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