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BSOD Issues On Deepwater Horizon 383

ctdownunder passes along this excerpt from a NY Times article about a rig worker's testimony concerning the April 20 accident at the Deepwater Horizon well: "The emergency alarm on the Deepwater Horizon was not fully activated on the day the oil rig caught fire and exploded, triggering the massive spill in the Gulf of Mexico, a rig worker on Friday told a government panel investigating the accident. ... On Friday, Mr. Williams added several new details about the equipment on the vessel, testifying that another Transocean official turned a critical system for removing dangerous gas from the drilling shack to 'bypass mode.' When he questioned that decision, Mr. Williams said, he was reprimanded. ... Problems existed from the beginning of drilling the well, Mr. Williams said. For months, the computer system had been locking up, producing what the crew deemed the 'blue screen of death.' 'It would just turn blue,' he said. 'You’d have no data coming through.' Replacement hardware had been ordered but not yet installed by the time of the disaster, he said." The article doesn't mention whether it was specifically a Windows BSOD, or just an error screen that happened to be blue.
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BSOD Issues On Deepwater Horizon

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  • Egregious (Score:5, Interesting)

    by eclectro ( 227083 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @02:00PM (#33005398)

    There are faulty engineering and management decisions every step of the way when producing this well. This is not the first disaster for BP that ended in the loss of life. The question is why is there not criminal prosecutions for bad engineering that leads to the loss of life? Why is it that only people with guns who kill people get criminal prosecutions?

  • Re:Safety List (Score:2, Interesting)

    by deapbluesea ( 1842210 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @02:24PM (#33005708)

    Safety control systems, especially those where life and limb, as well as massive amounts of money, are at steak aren't the places to be cutting corners and using commodity products rather than purpose-built and well-tested systems.

    Yes, that's why the nextgen ATC system for the US is being written in C++ (secure if you know how to herd cats effectively) (http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/archives/202907.asp [seattlepi.com]), instead of Ada (secure unless you ask a bunch of C++ programmers to write in Ada), whilst the UK is writing theirs using Ada (http://www.drdobbs.com/embedded-systems/199905389;jsessionid=QQKCSEKZREME5QE1GHPSKH4ATMY32JVN [drdobbs.com]) . One of those two is well proven in safety-critical systems. The other is used to write Windows. I wonder which was used for the Deepwater Horizon?

  • Re:Egregious (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Andy Dodd ( 701 ) <atd7@cornell . e du> on Friday July 23, 2010 @02:31PM (#33005774) Homepage

    From most of what I've read, the subcontractors in question (Halliburton and Transocean) were doing the work, but BP had full control over the operations.

    The flow was something like this:
    Halliburton or Transocean: That's a bad idea, we don't recommend that.
    BP: Do it anyway.
    H/T: OK...

    Although the question is at what point H/T should have said, "Hell no!"

  • by VGPowerlord ( 621254 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @02:48PM (#33005964)

    Funny thing... when my monitor has no video signal, it shows a blue screen for a bit, then goes black.

    My TV does the same thing if I tune to one of the external input channels.

    Windows isn't the only device in computers and electronics that produces a blue screen; In fact, Windows is less likely than the other possible reasons*.

    * Speaking of which, didn't MS eliminate the BSOD in favor of the RSOD (Red) or BlSOD (Black) in newer Windows versions?

  • by fyoder ( 857358 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @02:52PM (#33006024) Homepage Journal

    Then we need new regulations regulating regulators. And I know, you're thinking, but who will regulate the regulators of the regulators? There will be regulators for the regulators of the regulators as well. It will be regulators all the way to the bottom.

    The real answer is to stop regarding corporations as 'persons' and go back to regarding them as what they are, associations, and ones which can be disbanded when they screw up big time. A corporation who, through its negligence, causes a major environmental disaster doesn't get to continue to exist.

    Granted, that's unenforceable outside of a particular nation state, but it would certainly reduce share holder value if several countries, including the US, regarded it as outlaw and forbade it to do business.

    Or if we're going to continue to regard them as persons, what sort of a punishment would a human person get for gross criminal negligence? What would be the corporate equivalent?

    Because when it comes right down to it, regulation is better than no regulation, but ultimately can't be counted on, because there are minimal consequences for failure to comply, and because of lax enforcement in the first place.

    The first rule for corporations should be that if they screw up big time, they cease to exist. But anything that draconian has to be preceded by defining corporations in law as non-persons. Sadly, given US Supreme Court rulings on the issue, it might take a constitutional amendment.

  • Re:BSOD (Score:4, Interesting)

    by GrumblyStuff ( 870046 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @03:06PM (#33006216)

    To be fair, the cheap cement job was what BP ordered. I think it was two plugs instead of three and they skipped the final (and expensive) inspection.

    That said, Halliburton still needs to answer for all the shit it's pulled in Iraq.

  • by Facegarden ( 967477 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @03:06PM (#33006220)

    I mean, the whole rig's cost is in the hundreds of millions (Wiki says $560 mil but google link said $350 mil). The whole disaster is in the tens of billions, ain't it?

    You'd think they would do anything and spare no cost to keep the fucking thing in working order and floating.

    Makes the $500,000 a day lease look like pennies.

    They normally do spare no cost keeping these things going.

    My company sells some sensors to oil rig people, and the way it works is that they have a limited equipment budget, but an unlimited repair budget. Yeah. Unlimited.

    They are smart enough to buy some spares, but when something critical breaks and they don't have a backup, they will spare no expense to get it fixed. They've had something break on them in the middle of the night, so they put it on a helicopter, flew it to the mainland, and paid our partner in texas to drive 2 hours to meet them with his repair truck, fix it and drive home, and then flew it back. At like 3am.

    Which is impressive, and makes sense given how much money these things are worth and how much they cost.

    Which makes me wonder why their computers weren't fixed sooner.

    The problem is, when our sensors break there's no "bypass mode", so they *have* to be fixed or they can't do anything.

    With the computers able to be bypassed, people can ignore it until it becomes a problem.

    With whats at stake here, critical safety systems should *not* have a "bypass" mode, I would think.

    These people also understand when a mechanical tool is broken, it needs to be fixed. Computers are somehow very "mysterious", so there is a lack of understanding that could be a problem too.
    -Taylor

  • Re:Egregious (Score:5, Interesting)

    by shadowofwind ( 1209890 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @03:13PM (#33006304)

    What's it got to do with BP? The rig was owned and operated by a company called Transocean.

    This is a common legal and accounting ploy: subcontract everything to other companies, then you're not responsible for anything, even though you're in charge of everything.

    I recently worked for a company, run incidentally by the spouse of a BP chief executive, that sells a medical product for applications that the product can not legally be sold for (in the US). Its way around this is to create three companies, one for engineering, one for distribution, and one for marketing. That way, the parent company claims that its selling nothing illegally because it distributes nothing, but only provides information. And the distributor claims that it does not target its product for the illegal applications, since it merely distributes. And the engineering company evades FDA engineering process requirements by saying that it merely distributes the product made by the engineering company, which ignores the regulations because it is ostensibly not subject to regulation since it is not the distributor, and it doesn't have a distribution operation that can be shut down. But all three companies are essentially the same company, run by the same people. The 'ethic' involved is that if you haven't yet been sued successfully, or shut down by regulators, then its all good.

    At least Halliburton and Transocean have a separate existence from BP. But BP is still responsible.

  • by Rich0 ( 548339 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @03:25PM (#33006476) Homepage

    Agreed. In fact, as long as the big company has no liability it just turns into one big race for the bottom.

    Suppose you run a reputable oil-rig operations company. You'd like to have people outsource their rigs to you. You believe in safety and the environment, so you take all kinds of steps to avoid something like the BP disaster. What happens? Well, you go out of business. You have to compete against other companies that cut corners. Companies like BP don't care about the safety of your workers or the environment, since that is on you. Your competitors charge less, and that is all they care about. Sure, it isn't sustainable, but most small companies aren't sustainable. The company running the rig can pay out dividends while the money is there, and then fold when the lawsuits hit. Indeed, if you didn't run a disreputable company your shareholders would probably fire you (low dividends compared to peers) and replace you with somebody who would mismanage it.

    In other industries there is a clear assignment of responsibility, which cannot be outsourced. You can hire somebody else to do the work, but not to assume the liability. If Bayer sells a bottle of tainted aspirin, then they're liable even if they bought bad pills from a supplier. The only thing they're not liable for is what happens to the package after they sell it to the warehouse/store, although they are required to put the pills in tamper-evident packaging.

    Indeed, in many industries liability is personal. That's why certified engineers have to sign off on bridges - they are personally responsible for the design (but not necessarily the implementation). I think the EU does something similar for drugs.

  • Re:Interesting (Score:3, Interesting)

    by harlows_monkeys ( 106428 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @04:41PM (#33007482) Homepage

    Nobody is bashing Windows so far[...]

    Don't worry, the "journalists" at Boycott Novel have that covered: Microsoft Windows BSOD Caused Deepwater Horizon Disaster [techrights.org].

    Here's the summary, as provided by the site itself: Blue Screen of Death caused a crucial computer system not to prevent the biggest disaster of the 21st century . So yes, they are in fact claiming that it was a Windows failure that actually led to the explosion and oil spill.

    I had thought that they had reached the limit of over-the-top claims when they tried to imply Microsoft caused Reiser to murder his wife, but they sure proved me wrong on that!

  • Re:BSOD (Score:3, Interesting)

    by iamavirus ( 590736 ) on Friday July 23, 2010 @05:12PM (#33007846)
    Based on reading the article + other news sources, the alarm system wasn't disaster preventive. It was a gas (danger) detector, and may have prevented zero / some / all fatalities.

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