Gestures With Multitouch In Ubuntu 10.10 185
jitendraharlalka writes "Mark Shuttleworth recently announced on his blog that the first cut of Canonical's UTouch framework is ready and will be available in Ubuntu Maverick. He goes on to talk about the development of 'touch language' by the design team. The 'touch language' will allow the chaining of basic gestures to create complex gestures. The approach is quite different from the single magic gestures implemented elsewhere. In Maverick, a few Gtk applications will support gesture-based scrolling."
Hardware support is still weak (Score:4, Insightful)
Other than specialty devices, hardware support is not even on the map.
I believe W7 already supports multitouch, joining the mac bandwagon. So, how long until non-laptops, non-cellphones start shipping with that, so that we can see an explosion in programmer response and API's?
Oh, and while we wait, it'd be good to find where I can buy a USB pad currently to add multi-touch support for a Windows desktop. Thanks
It's just a toy (Score:5, Insightful)
Having tried multitouch, it's useless in the long term. It is a nice gimmick to show in an advertisement, but for using it for longer than 15 minutes at a time, it's not a good idea -- you'll hand will get sore in no time.
Even for mobile devices, there is simply no better thing than the good old keyboard. If you try the on-screen touch thingy on an iPad or most Androids, it may be enough for typing a single line of text. On an N900 with a proper physical keyboard, you're in good shape after several hours of typing. And since you can't have that many distinct gestures, traditional keyboard shortcuts are so much better.
Good job Mark, you've overcomplicated it ... (Score:1, Insightful)
So ... as a hint ... if you want to copy Apple ... good for you, no problem with that I'm all for it ... but maybe you might want to consider WHY they do so well.
And ... GPLv3 so I have to wait for something with license I can use safely in anything because I'm not going to be bothered to learn another SDK and framework that I can only use in apps that I give away. I know I can't give away the only other real alternative out there but I don't care because I can sell those apps and make a fortune.
If you want people to use things like this then maybe you want to look at why people like the existing ones and why so many apps exist for the existing frameworks ... People don't use the iPhone and love its multitouch because of its 'tech specs', developers nor users.
Re:It's just a toy (Score:5, Insightful)
Your hand will get sore? You're kidding,right?
There was probably some guy like you shaking his head thirty years ago. "Mice? Sorry, I tried one and it's totally useless. You always have to take your hand off the keyboard to do anything at all."
"Not to mention how sore your hand will get mashing buttons and dragging it around your desktop."
Re:It's just a toy (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, lots of people still avoid it. Vimperator exists for firefox for a reason.
Mice suck, gestures suck more.
Re:Good job Mark, you've overcomplicated it ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Redhat makes half its money from RHEL.
You can even sell GPL software that uses closed art, for example.
I have bought GPLed software on my phone, perhaps the dev won't get rich, but so what. We don't need more rich folks, we need more people doing what they love making a decent income.
Re:It's just a toy (Score:4, Insightful)
Multi-touch on my Macbook is great. Two finger scrolling, three finger flipping from page to page makes life significantly easier. Yes, I can do everything with a mouse, but usually don't have mine out if I just have my laptop. And of course I can always use the keyboard, but why when I can do the same thing 10 times faster with a few finger movements.
Re:It's just a toy (Score:5, Insightful)
Swype is very overrated. Works fine for 90% of what you write (if you're using a well supported language), and makes the remaining 10% a pain to use. If you use more than one language, or want to use uncommon or non-standard vocabulary that 90% drops to something like 60% or worse.
Besides, swype doesn't need multitouch. I agree with the OP; it's a nice gimmick but not particularly useful.
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Re:Hardware support is still weak (Score:5, Insightful)
"Show me ANY Linux where I can take a mix of totally random hardware thrown together and hand my 67 year old clueless dad the disc and have him install it PERFECTLY, without a SINGLE fuckup or hardware issue, and then we'll talk."
Show me FIRST the Windows where I can take a mix of totally random hardware thrown together and hand my 67 year old clueless dad the disc and have him install it PERFECTLY, without a SINGLE fuckup or hardware issue.
Re:Hardware support is still weak (Score:5, Insightful)
Vendor specific nonsense that ignores the standard interfaces across all operating systems (MacOS included) does squat to encourage adoption of Linux. If anything, lack of this sort of nonsense for Linux is actually a considerable net gain. Incidentally, Linux has been using the "MacOS printing system" since before Apple was.
If it were up to HP, I wouldn't be able to use my all-in-one as a network printer under Linux either.
Re:Put more effort on the everyday stuff (Score:4, Insightful)
> There are still a boat load of everyday things that should be addressed
> before they start to put too much effort in bleeding edge technologies
> that may never actually come to market.
Got a personal favorite you would like to actually cite or would you prefer to just continue the lame trolling?
There are already Linux based appliance tablet devices. So it's not like this is just pie in the sky stuff. This is new hardware that needs to be supported like anything else including whatever happens to be your pet "obscure" peripheral.
Re:Hardware support is still weak (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:It's just a toy (Score:3, Insightful)
Swype is very overrated. Works fine for 90% of what you write (if you're using a well supported language), and makes the remaining 10% a pain to use.
Never used Swype but... please, look up XXX in a dictionary. If it works 9 XXX out of 10 thats the opposite of overrated. OK? Quite XXX now a days anything that works half of the time is a fucking XXX.
This is what happens if around 10% of your words fail. 100% of your paragraphs fail.