Radiohead Helps Fans Make Crowd-Sourced Live Show DVD 103
Kilrah_il writes "After having a go with a Name-Your-Price album and an open-source video, Radiohead is again breaking new ground, this time with a fan-based initiative. A group of fans went to one of the band's shows in Prague, each shooting the show from a different angle. By editing it all together and adding audio from the original masters provided by the band, they have created a video of the show that is 'Strictly not for sale — By the fans for the fans,' adding, 'Please share and enjoy.' Can this be the future of live show videos?"
Nine Inch Nails did this first (Score:5, Informative)
NIN unofficially released 400gb of raw, professionally shot concert footage and told the internet to turn it into a DVD, resulting in Another Version of the Truth [thisoneisonus.org].
but in argentina... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Nine Inch Nails did this first (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Cool .... But (Score:2, Informative)
Re:but in argentina... (Score:5, Informative)
They have to make their money someplace. They really do not have many choices.
They can have normal day jobs - which means the likely hood of seeing them outside of a 200 mile radius of their residence is quite unlikely. Not really a good option so we will cross that one off the list. There are others in the "cross off list" category too - say a life of robbing banks and such, I'll assume (though given posts here I have to recall what assuming does) that we will not go there.
They can make it from album (or CD, or MP3, or whatever the format of the day is - I'm old enough to use that term generically) sales. We here do not like this type of thing - recorded music wants to be free and it is my Right to make all the copies I want of it. So for the most part that is not going to happen. Indeed, while I do not agree with that sentiment it *is* reality. It is too easy to copy and that makes it too expensive to purchase for most. Things like jackets, art work, and such are nice - but too many of us will take a decent MP3 over a high quality loss-less digital recording with full artwork for the latter to be a money maker without artificial legal protections. Even with said protections that models days are numbered.
So that pretty much leaves us with live shows. Not movies of them - they end up being a version of the second method to make money but with video. It will suffer the same fate. Therefore it leaves it up to live performances. Since they are popular it is going to be expensive. Given how they sell at 100 dollars a pop the chances of you getting in at 20 dollars a pop was just as slim (if not slimmer) due to demand.
The expense has to come in some area. Maybe you already know this - after all even knowing it I wouldn't be happy if I couldn't afford tickets to something I really wanted to see - but they have to make their money someplace. Further things like "supply and demand" mean something, even were they to drop prices to cheap and their expenses somehow magically get payed you would *still* most likely be putting frowny faces on a post for the tickets being sold out and a huge number of fans angry they didn't get to go. In that case almost no one is happy other than the small group that got cheap tickets. That isn't going to be a workable long term market either.
It's like complaining that some Open Source company want to charge for support - umm, yea.
The Beastie Boys also did this (Score:1, Informative)
with Awesome, I Fuckin' Shot that.
Handed out cameras to fans and let them go crazy during a show in 2006. That one was sold, however.
Re:The first? Really? (Score:5, Informative)
A group of fans went to one of the band's shows ... each shooting the show from a different angle.
So this is exactly like the making of Bon Jovi's video for _Bad Medicine_, then?
Bon Jovi didn't do it for a whole concert then give it away for free.
I was at that show (Score:2, Informative)
Re:but in argentina... (Score:5, Informative)
There is. Sample at twice the Nyquist frequency of the recorded signal and a sample size that gives a sample resolution a tad bigger than what the recording equipment is capable of registering - measurement error formulas from the theory of metrology are your friends, coefficients come from the instruction manual for the microphone. You do know that an analog microphone doesn't have an infinite recording quality, right?
Re:but in argentina... (Score:3, Informative)
The important fact you are missing is real world signal to noise ratio. No source has zero noise, so below a certain signal level there is no signal only noise, so as long as the bit depth is sufficient to cover the available S/N ratio, and as long as the sampling frequency is high enough to cover the frequency range of interest, and in the case of audio thats well defined, and we could up the limit a few times to be sure. So as long as thats all met, and the equipment is working as it should, then yes, loss-less recording of the world is entirely possibly.
Re:Clear Channel (Score:3, Informative)
They could raise a fuss [techdirt.com]...
Not anymore.
EFF Kills Bogus Clear Channel Patent [eff.org]
Re:Nine Inch Nails did this first (Score:1, Informative)
Yes. I downloaded the main DVD in (checks timestamp) January and it's great (if you like NIN :-)). It's available in Blu-ray, DVD, and several other formats (1080p MOV, 1080p + 5.1 audio in mkv format, etc.) with nice, high-quality audio options. You could download the mp3 and FLAC audio for months before that, and there's a ton of additional stuff available [thisoneisonus.org].
So, yes, what they are doing is cool, but Radiohead is not breaking new ground here.