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UK Law Body Targets RIAA-Style Settlement Letters 95

PerformanceDude writes "The Register reports that a major UK law firm knew it sometimes had no reliable evidence of unlawful filesharing when it demanded hundreds of pounds in damages from internet users, according to the solicitors' watchdog. London-based Davenport Lyons threatened thousands of people with legal action for alleged copyright infringement between 2006 and 2009. They were told that by quickly paying around £500 damages, plus costs, they could avoid court. Following complaints to the Solicitors Regulation Authority, Davenport Lyons now stands accused of deliberately ignoring concerns over the standard of its evidence."
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UK Law Body Targets RIAA-Style Settlement Letters

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  • excellent (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mirix ( 1649853 ) on Sunday November 21, 2010 @06:33PM (#34300900)

    Now if firms responsible will actually be punished for false claims, we might be going somewhere.

  • Excellent advice (Score:5, Insightful)

    by $RANDOMLUSER ( 804576 ) on Sunday November 21, 2010 @06:33PM (#34300904)

    (UK Law) (Body Targets) (RIAA Style Settlement Letters)

    Double tap to the body, then the kill shot to the head.

  • by BadAnalogyGuy ( 945258 ) <BadAnalogyGuy@gmail.com> on Sunday November 21, 2010 @06:39PM (#34300942)

    As long as an effective defense is more expensive than out of court settlement, this type of harassment will exist. Even though Davenport Lyons may have known that some of the recipients of the letter were not guilty of anything, it would have been time consuming to figure out which ones they were. And with the state of the courts these days, it was more effective to take a wide view and hit everyone they could.

    Until the government provides basic defense in all cases, this type of thing will continue.

  • by syntap ( 242090 ) on Sunday November 21, 2010 @06:45PM (#34300974)

    Seems fair for their side, triple refund plus an apology in the Daily Mail if the victim wants it.

  • Re:excellent (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:02PM (#34301074)

    To bad this hasn't happened on the other side of the pond... yet.

    I honestly don't know what's worse here. The lack of ethics in a field which purports to have some level of authority, for justices' sake. Or, the level to which greed will strip so many individuals of some semblence of conscience. Since, essentially, they're willing to ruin average peoples lives financially.....

    Alas, my faith in humanity retains its below normal level.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:14PM (#34301120)

    It's purely greedy lawyers who decide to put profit over doing the right thing. These are the ambulance chasers and injury fakers of the world, and how they act has nothing to do with any merits the RIAA may or may not have.

    They'd be doing the exact same damn thing if they could get money from the GPL, from Ponzi Schemes, or deeds to the Brooklyn Bridge.

  • by Alain Williams ( 2972 ) <addw@phcomp.co.uk> on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:17PM (#34301138) Homepage
    and don't get caught: was how a legal person explained to me about lying in court. Basically some solicitors will do anything to line their pockets.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:33PM (#34301222)

    And oral sex from the best looking secretary! That's about as likely to happen.

  • by sjames ( 1099 ) on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:35PM (#34301236) Homepage Journal

    Yes, in much the same way it's more effective if I just steal what I want. There are minimum standards to how sure you need to be before you demand settlement under threat of lawsuit. While that standard falls well below absolute certainty, they were nowhere near meeting it. Unfortunately, a rule with no enforcement is no rule at all and there are always bottom feeders out there ready to take advantage of it.

  • by laughingcoyote ( 762272 ) <(moc.eticxe) (ta) (lwohtsehgrab)> on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:39PM (#34301258) Journal

    Apparently, English civil courts require real evidence when you bring a case before them.

    It's kind of a neat idea. Here, it's "Well, we have an IP address that we think the defendant used around that time!" We should adopt that standard here in the good old US. Actual, hard evidence. What a great idea!

  • Nothing less... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by JockTroll ( 996521 ) on Sunday November 21, 2010 @07:40PM (#34301262)
    ... Than civil death will do. Have all the lawyers involved permanently disbarred, charge everyone down to the cleaning lady with being accessory to blackmail and extortion. Permanent mark on their criminal record, so they will have to struggle mightily even to get a job flipping burgers. Let's see how those crooks like it, having to say goodbye to their fine houses and expensive cars and having to move to cheap flats while their kids say goodbye to Eton and become shank fodder in the mean streets of Old Blighty.
  • by nosferatu1001 ( 264446 ) on Monday November 22, 2010 @04:40AM (#34303810)

    Mainly this is lawyers not acting under direction from a client. Which is entirely against the rules that lawyers are supposed to operate under.

    Fingers crossed ACS Law will also get rapped, as they were doing the same using "assets" from DL

  • by Gordonjcp ( 186804 ) on Monday November 22, 2010 @09:01AM (#34304896) Homepage

    Only the first group of evildoers has been obliterated; the second has been damaged, but it's still in the game;

    It's worth pointing out that legal firms that are *not* currently involved in this nonsense are scurrying around trying to consolidate their position of "Too hot, wouldn't touch it with someone else's stolen ten-foot shitty stick". If *lawyers* are prepared to stay away from a money-making scheme because it's too dirty...

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