Terrorists Bomb Moscow Airport 640
jayme0227 writes "Terrorists detonated a bomb at Moscow's busiest airport on Monday, killing 35 people and wounding another 152, Russian authorities said. President Dmitry Medvedev, who called the bombing a terrorist attack, ordered additional security at Moscow's other airports and transportation hubs, and Moscow police went on high alert in case of additional bombs."
According to the NY Times, "The airport remained open on Monday evening, and passengers continued to flow through the hall where the bomb had exploded."
Sympathy for the victims, lessons for us (Score:5, Insightful)
Sacrificing civil liberties does not prevent terrorism.
Next time you're at an airport, think about this (Score:5, Insightful)
Nice to see... (Score:5, Insightful)
"The airport remained open on Monday evening, and passengers continued to flow through the hall where the bomb had exploded."
Good to see the terrorists haven't won everywhere...
Re:Joke Time (Score:1, Insightful)
Give it a rest, if only in respect for the victims.
This is an ethnic issue between Russia and North Caucasus.
I went through this airport the day before. (Score:5, Insightful)
It's not surprising that these idiots were able to bomb the place. Whilst there's always a guy at the door with a metal detector / baggage scanning machine when you walk in everyone just walks right through so you're not actually being scanned unless they specifically stop you (never happens unless they *really* don't like they way you look. Now of course that will change for a while... but Russia is such a big place with so many landmarks that can be targeted that there's no way to stop some lunatics from blowing themselves up in public and killing people if they're really keen on it.
The one difference worth noting is that in Russia/Israel/India etc... they just get back to work, in USA they would've created some 500 million $ memorial and immortalized the event for at least a decade.
Re:Joke Time (Score:5, Insightful)
I think the point was that condemning an entire religion for the actions of a few is, well, stupid. Be it Christian fundamentalist murderers, Islamic fundamentalist murderers, cow rapers, or fungal mutant centrists.
So much for security theater (Score:5, Insightful)
There's no easy way to prevent this, unless the security checkpoint is at the front door, in which case you still have a large queue of people, even more miserable and pissed off that they have to stand inline outside. Even if they made people strip naked, it still wouldn't stop the first clever terrorist to shove the bomb up his ass.
Re:Joke Time (Score:3, Insightful)
There are lots of ethnic issues around the world. Why is it that every time some crazy fucker blows up himself and a whole bunch of innocent people he turns out to be a Muslim. Coincidence?
Re:All Religions are like that (Score:5, Insightful)
I know this because I have lived in a "good christian home" and saw violence and depravity that few can imagine
If few can even imagine the "violence and depravity" you witnessed at home, and Christianity is one of the world's major religions, it stands to reason that perhaps by any definition of Christianity that you didn't actually live in a "good Christian home". Also I don't know what version of the bible you're reading "every chapter, every verse, and every word" of but if it has anything about the Spanish Inquisition being the foundation of Christianity then you should probably buy a new one.
Another sad day, now move on (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:If we're lucky.... (Score:4, Insightful)
Hopefully, Russia took out Jerusalem and we'll have World Peace.
They would fight over the ruins.
Re:Joke Time (Score:2, Insightful)
Such as Slavery. It's certainly more "recent" than the crusades. And don't tell me that Christians didn't have Slaves in the USA, and were more then willing to kill a few to make sure there were no insurrections. Or let's go more recent, where good Christians beat to death any Homosexuals they tend to come across.
And how about the KKK, also run by good Christians, and I'm sure they go to church every Sunday ?
Don't act like America is full of clean, well-spoken intellectuals. The vast majority appear to be knee-jerk, xenophobic rednecks who watch Fox News and believe everything Glenn Beck says.
Bad choice of words (Score:5, Insightful)
Civil rights cannot be "sacrificed" or bargained with in any manner. The very notion smacks of tyranny, and fosters a conformist ideology where it is expected that governments cherry-pick the civil rights they "allow" for "their" people.
But I never sacrificed anything after 9/11 -- did you? Of course not. I don't know anybody that did. What actually happened is that your civil rights were stolen. from you. Denied. Oppressed. Attacked. You and I didn't have a say in it at all, and neither did the pawns who cheered it on. There was no "sacrifice" in any of this, only the elite at the top of the pyramid playing god with powers that no mortal man is worthy of.
Let's call a spade a spade: civil rights are either honored or oppressed. There is no picking and choosing.
Re:Joke Time (Score:4, Insightful)
Why do you link to an article about the First Chechen War, which happened in mid-90s? A lot of things happened since then - for example, a second war which began after religious faction in Chechen rebel government (people such as Shamil Basaev, Doka Umarov, and amir Khattab) got the upper hand in the little infighting that they had after Dudaev's death - the war which began as a jihad to "liberate" Muslim territories outside of Chechnya [wikipedia.org].
Re:All Religions are like that (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't see how this relates at all to the topic I was addressing but I'd agree with the money issue. I've never seen a church that required you to pay anything though unless you want to use their building for a wedding or something, which seems rather understandable to me. Unless we're going to consider asking for donations to be the definition of corrupt now and lump that child cancer hospital that asks for donations at the movie theater into the corrupt category.
I don't understand why having principals and guides about how children should be raised would make a faith corrupt. We're talking about a way of life here, and your claiming that no way of life should guide someone in how to deal with the biggest part of most people's lives? That just doesn't make any sense.
Transposed Conditionals (Score:5, Insightful)
No, it's not a coincidence. It's also not very useful.
You need to examine the distinction between "Statistical Significance" and "Practical Importance".
For example, suppose the difference in IQ scores between people in two cities is 1/2 point. The studies can be extremely accurate and the results can be correct to a strong degree of statistical significance, but the overall result is of no practical importance.
Similar with Muslim extremists. Try to assign a probability (high or low) to each of the following:
Probability that someone is a Muslim, given that they are terrorist.
Probability that someone is a terrorist, given that they are Muslim.
There are about 8,500 people on the U.S. "no fly" list, and about 1.5 billion followers of Islam. If *all* terrorists are Muslims, you still have to sort through 175,000 profiled people to find one terrorist.
This is not a piece of data which is useful in and of itself from which to draw conclusions or make policy.
You don't have to be afraid of your neighbors, even if they are are from Pakistan.
Re:Another sad day, now move on (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Joke Time (Score:5, Insightful)
That the separatists happen to be largely Muslim is inconsequential.
But as a consequence of the separatists being Muslim, their cause is taken up by supporters of global jihad throughout the Muslim world. Just like fighters in Kashmir and Palestine, they receive support from abroad solely due to their religion and the religion of their opponents.
How can you not call that a consequence?? Do you even know what "inconsequential" means?
Re:Nice to see... (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm curious. Exactly why should anyone be bothered by it? Was she too old to be working and should have been on retirement? Or is your junk so special that you think a little old lady is getting turned on by seeing you handle it?
Re:Joke Time (Score:3, Insightful)
There is no "Islamic Terror".
There are deep intelligence operations. These are funded by Mossad, CIA, Pakistan's ISI, etc.
A complete investigation of David Headley - for just one example - would give you some idea of the nature of para-political, deep-state actors in perpetrating terror for their own ends, and the usefulness of the "Islamic" fiction.
If you think that you are capable of correctly evaluating the the real nature of these events, based on the unexamined and uninvestigated statements of official sources? Then you do not correctly ascertain the meaning or implications of the term "disinformation".
Ask yourself this: "Does my government maintain a policy of disinformation, regarding its own people? If so, how would I know? Is the reporting of independent, corporate news agencies a sufficient source of information to verify or validate these claims?"
http://www.carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php [carlbernstein.com]
http://danwismar.com/uploads/Bernstein%20-%20CIA%20and%20Media.htm [danwismar.com]
I suggest you take up mindfulness meditation for 5-15 minutes a day. Wen yourself from all "news" for one month. Then come back, and look freshly at the spinning matrix of lies.
You have a UID of 137, and you've posted the dumbest thing I've ever read on the internet.
Your argument is "You can't trust the government! You can't trust the media! Trust me and my hyperlinks! Also, meditate!".
Re:Joke Time (Score:2, Insightful)
Agreed. There's time for speculation in the future.
Why? Why can't we cut straight to blaming Sarah Palin like we did a couple of weeks ago? Doesn't make any sense. But, it didn't then either.
Re:Bad choice of words (Score:5, Insightful)
Assholes. (Score:4, Insightful)
Slaughtering innocent people who are just trying to get from point A to point B won't further your aims, won't garner any sympathy, and certainly won't win you the hearts and minds of the rest of the world. You aren't freedom fighters, heroes, or martyrs, you're just assholes killing innocent people.
Re:Obviously not afraid of terrorists in Russia (Score:5, Insightful)