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Google Ties Employee Bonuses To +1 Success 167

jfruhlinger writes "Last week Google introduced the +1 button, its attempt to tie its search offerings more closely with users' social networks. Now, a leaked memo reveals that every Google employee will have a stake in the outcome, with bonuses tied to the success or failure of the initiative."
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Google Ties Employee Bonuses To +1 Success

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  • by Hazel Bergeron ( 2015538 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @03:35AM (#35754580) Journal

    As far as I can tell, this is tying the bonuses of everyone at Google to the efforts of the few people at Google involved in social media crap - in turn coming down to the efforts of the few managers who actually want to push the social media crap. It's the ultimate PHB power trip: you are so insistent that a repeatedly-failing idea is good, while at the same time wanting to acknowledge none of evidence or the responsibility that it isn't, so you declare that everyone else has a stake in it. Then it's everyone's fault: after all, they had financial incentive to succeed - which, as everyone knows, is the reason everyone wants to do anything - so the only reason the plan failed must be because all 24k employees just weren't trying hard enough.

    Page (Gates) is an intelligent egomaniac who happened to be in the right place at the right time, carried to success by Schmidt (Ballmer) and a few venture capitalist titans. Now add cowardly to his list of properties.

  • by Mouldy ( 1322581 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @03:35AM (#35754584)
    "...every Google employee..." -- Really?

    If the projects I was working on at Google had absolutely nothing at all to do with +1, I'd be pretty pissed if my bonus was riding on whether or not somebody else's project did well.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 08, 2011 @04:15AM (#35754740)

    If each one of them can just make one other person aware [...]

    ugh.. enough reason to keep away from googlers for a while.

  • by Hazel Bergeron ( 2015538 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @04:19AM (#35754756) Journal

    If each one of them can just make one other person aware of the new feature and of those half tell someone else, you've just kickstarted...

    ...turning your friends into business opportunities, the same socially damaging outcome to hit every pyramid marketing scheme and cult member.

  • Bank bonuses were dependant on results. The more money you shovelled out the window or burned in a furnace, the more you got paid.

    This will ruin Google. Bonuses and other goal oriented incentives ruin organisations wholesale.

    If you dangle large quantities of money in front of people to get them to do something(or worse threaten to deny them money if they don't), then they will do whatever it takes to meet that goal. This means they will cut corners, engage in risk, change parameters, and generally cheat and game the system in every way possible to meet your target. Eventually, your company or organisation will be utterly ruined, withered from within by your ill advised management practices.

    Bonuses are an illegitimate form of compensation on every level. 99% percent of the time, a bonus culture is instituted by management to pay themselves handsomely for wrecking their company.

    If you want someone to work, pay them for the job they do, not the targets they meet. Never, ever try to reduce a job to numbers when that's not what it's all about. If you're still not getting quality labour, hire better people, and note you may have to pay to get them.

  • by Hazel Bergeron ( 2015538 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @05:18AM (#35754970) Journal

    Most people think they get better deals from friends. Sometimes they are right, often they're the same and sometimes they're worse. In most cases, though, people feel better going to someone they know. That is not a nefarious scheme, it's human nature.

    It's understandable if a Google employee himself chooses to use Google's social networking crap because he believes that he'll get more money for doing so. But ultimately the success must depend on persuading others outside the company - and it's absolutely nefarious if your "friend" is this Google employee who is taking advantage of your trust and who stands to benefit financially when you follow his advice/example. The ethics of this sort of behaviour has been debated so much in terms of the harm of MLM and cult membership that, if you genuinely are ignorant, ... well, you know how to use Google.

    I don't know that this is what Page expects employees to do, but this sort of geek-grass-roots-marketing thing works approximately once - with an "innocent" start-up when the competition is wanting and people are yearning for an alternative, as with the original and still fairly good Google search engine proper. After that you just look like Microsoft with its, "Wow, it was Vista all along - and there was me thinking Vista was a failure!" ads.

    Car analogy effort notwithstanding, this is nothing whatever to do with choosing Peugeot because you're on good terms with a Peugeot dealer. A good business relationship which may come from a good underlying personal relationship, while often risky, is not proselytism.

  • by Hazel Bergeron ( 2015538 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @05:20AM (#35754986) Journal

    Bonus culture has completely ruined service provision in local and national government in England over the past decade. Unfortunately, we are severely lacking an ideology which recognises what you state.

  • by Hazel Bergeron ( 2015538 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @06:58AM (#35755394) Journal

    Which is arguably still irrational because an organisation's mission rarely aligns with the short term profit goals of employees/management. Optimum behaviour would be to strip the company and sell off its assets, or as close as possible to that as constraints will allow.

    (Hence, again, many recent examples of corporate and public sector plundering.)

  • by tophermeyer ( 1573841 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @08:23AM (#35755800)

    But bonuses are never guaranteed. The reason that bonuses exist in the first place is to offer incentive for employees to get behind whatever initiative the company has in a given quarter and is not part of their base salary.

    Google could just as easily take away bonuses from the other teams altogether.

  • by hey! ( 33014 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @08:47AM (#35755996) Homepage Journal

    The summary posted here at Slashdot invites us to infer more than the memo in TFA says. It seems to imply that Google employees won't get any annual bonus unless the "+1 Button" feature is a success. What the memo says is is that 1/4 of the bonus will be tied to Google's success in its social media efforts *as a whole*.

    You get paid for doing your job. Bonuses are something different. I have doubts about the effectiveness of bonuses, particularly for engineers, but if they do have a function it is to get you thinking, not just about the task at hand, but how it might be tweaked to contribute to the overall success of the company. In a company like Google where engineers have considerable scope for creativity, a bonus policy like this might have some positive effect.

    As for "social media" being crap, this attitude is *precisely* why managers contemplate steps like this. Just because you have good, even unassailable reasons to believe social media is crap doesn't mean it's an unimportant business. It doesn't matter what *you* think or how justified you are when your customers think differently. Google has to consider Facebook as a key competitor. Facebook has moved into product niches that are important to Google. There's advertising, for one. Everyone one uses Google search, but nobody spends the kind of time many people do on Facebook. Facebook is well positioned to move into other areas such as email and cloud services.

    What is really a mystery is why Google chose to pull the plug on Wave. It was poorly marketed, that is true, but it was an unique take on social media: actually using it for *doing* things. The one thing Facebook is *not* positioned to do is launch services that people can readily see require *trust*.

  • by SecurityGuy ( 217807 ) on Friday April 08, 2011 @10:41AM (#35757318)

    Not overreacting at all. This is a poor implementation of a good idea. It's well known that to be effective bonuses have to be valluable to the employee (I won't work harder for a bottle of bubble bath), credible (if I accomplish something extraordinary for you, you'll actually follow through and give me the reward) and attainable (this thing you want me to do is actually something I -can- do).

    They get 3/3 for everyone working on the project. 2/3 for everyone not.

    I've been in that position myself, where there was a bonus if we reached certain metrics, like customer satisfaction. Problem? A large fraction of the company was research (me) and never, and I do mean never, dealt with customers. Giving me a bonus because the customer facing side did a good job is a waste of money.

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