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Academic Publishers Ask The Impossible In GSU Copyright Suit 221

Posted by timothy
from the they'd-settle-for-infinity-minus-one dept.
Nidi62 writes "A Duke University blog covers the possible ramifications of a motion in the copyright case against Georgia State University. Cambrigde, Oxford, and Sage have proposed an injunction that would first enjoin GSU to include all faculty, employees, students. All copying would have to be monitored and limited to 10% of a work or 1000 words, whichever is less. No two classes would be allowed to use the same copied work unless they paid for it, essentially taking fair use out of the classroom. Along with this, courses would be allowed to be made up of only 10% copied material, the other 90% must be either purchased works or copies that have been paid for by permission fees. And, if this isn't enough, the publishers also want access to all computer systems on the campus network, to monitor compliance and copying. 'This proposed order, in short, represents a nightmare, a true dystopia, for higher education....Yet you can be sure that if [these] things happen, all of our campuses would be pressured to adopt the "Georgia State model" in order to avoid litigation.' Disclosure: I am currently a graduate student at Georgia State University."
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  • by Shompol (1690084) on Thursday May 19, 2011 @10:28AM (#36178770)
    Most science/math etc college books in Russia cost $3-$4. Those who want to learn are always welcome. The funny aspect of this is that they are actually much better quality than any american books I had to use to get both my undergraduate and graduate degrees. Problem: American books are bloated. I assume this is so because publishers feel that to charge $150 for a 2nd semester physics book, it needs to have at least 1000 pages. I cannot even read this crap, at best I just page through them before finals. This is a waste of trees, money, and does not help Americans to compete when Russian, Indian and Chinese come to take their engineering/science jobs.

    I would justify charging an insane amount of money for some highly specialized book with very narrow readership, but basic physics/calculus/economics has not changed in the last 200 years. Why are students forced to pay exorbitant amounts of money for information that should be free?

  • by Attila Dimedici (1036002) on Thursday May 19, 2011 @01:30PM (#36181744)
    Actually, I think that was a result of the employees at the local chain store (quite possibly even including the manager) not understanding textbook pricing. The local chain bookstore was probably taking a bath on those textbooks. I worked at several regular retail bookstores before I got into the college bookstore business. Most books sold at a standard retail bookstore have a suggested list price and the publisher sells them to the bookstore at a discount off of that price. This is the price listed in Books-In-Print. Most college textbooks are listed by the publisher at net price, the price the publisher sells them for. This is the price that is listed in Books-In-Print. Most employees of chain bookstores do not know what "net price" is and when someone special orders a book, they charge them the price that is listed in Books-In-Print.
    One of the college bookstores I managed was close to a chain bookstore that did what I just talked about. It was all evening classes, so one day I made an appointment to see the manager of the chain bookstore. I took a long lunch and explained the pricing situation to them, when they realized how much they were losing on every one of those sales they stopped doing it that way and I stopped getting complaints about how much cheaper they were.

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