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Skype Goes After Reverse-Engineering 207

An anonymous reader writes "It appears Microsoft's Skype Division is cracking down on reverse-engineering of the Skype client. Skype recently rolled out a new set of APIs for integration into other desktop applications, but they have issued multiple DMCA takedown notices to a researcher publishing open-source code to send Skype messages."
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Skype Goes After Reverse-Engineering

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  • by bluefoxlucid ( 723572 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @02:06PM (#37871506) Homepage Journal
    That's why you use philosophical groups like the EFF, with sane business practices. Like, even if you are fighting for your beliefs, a civil rights victory is not enough: make those bastards pay the ENTIRE cost of your legal fees. The EFF operates on a philosophical basis where they would like to take on cases such as this, but in order to survive they must be selective; however, if they do take on a case, it is well and proper that they not only set society straight on the issue, but also demand compensation for their time and resources from those who are abusive and guilty of using the legal system as a high entry barrier battleground that they can gain an automatic victory in by virtue of being bigger, rather than correct.
  • RIP Skype (Score:5, Insightful)

    by denis-The-menace ( 471988 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @02:10PM (#37871602)

    To all those people asking "Why do you hate MS so much?"
    This is why.

    When MS bought Skype I told people that Skype would die soon *because* MS bought it. Didn't know how or when but soon.
    Now, MS will kill all the various clients that made Skype ubiquitous and useful. The new Skype will not run on as many platforms and (in true MS EEE fashion) will not work with previous versions either

    Like Metalica, and Hurt Locker, Skype will now be shunned.
    A new *open* protocol will take over.

  • Re:Good (Score:5, Insightful)

    by gparent ( 1242548 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @02:31PM (#37871870)

    SIP, a brilliant protocol that likes to negotiate a random port between 10000 and 20000 to open your RTP stream. Why not IAX2, which is a hundred times better and not gay as fuck like SIP to handle.

  • Re:Is this new? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by marcello_dl ( 667940 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @02:32PM (#37871890) Homepage Journal

    And likewise, every time we mention the sun we should go outside and check out that it's roughly spherical, you can never be sure.

  • Come on Apple (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday October 28, 2011 @02:56PM (#37872166)

    Publish the FaceTime specifications and protocols already, as Steve said you would.

  • by jgtg32a ( 1173373 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @03:33PM (#37872612)
    Personally I like it when people write Microsoft as M$, it means whatever they have to say isn't worth reading.
  • by Solandri ( 704621 ) on Friday October 28, 2011 @04:36PM (#37873448)

    Won't happen. SIP and IAX are out there, all free and decentralized, but all the proprietary junk continues to be adopted by the technologically-challenged masses.

    This is why proprietary junk like Skype continues to flourish. You blame the users for the problem. The real reason is that the developers who advocate open protocols like SIP or IAX shun the technologically-challenged masses. They revel in complexity and flexibility, while most users just want something simple that works, no fuss, no muss. When users come to them with problems or questions, they're frequently met with scorn, ridicule, and non-answers like "it's open source, fix the bug yourself." Some developers even see themselves as gods, with the users as minions whose purpose is to worship them and be eternally grateful for their code.

    In a successful product, the relationship works the other way around. The users needs and wants are paramount, and the developers work to fulfill them. Put out a SIP or IAX-based product which is free, and as simple and friendly to use as Skype. Then you'll start to whittle down its market share. You can keep all the complexity and flexibility that you like, but it has to be hidden behind a simple veneer whose defaults just work for the typical neophyte user. The problem isn't that technologically-challenged users adopt proprietary junk; the problem is that OSS developers write software which is difficult for technologically-challenged users to use.

It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one.

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