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Penguin Yanking Kindle Books From Libraries 206

New submitter moniker writes "Penguin Group is removing Kindle ebooks from libraries using Overdrive citing 'security concerns' as a weak excuse, while most likely taking a shot at Amazon. One more example of DRM being about protecting business models, not content."
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Penguin Yanking Kindle Books From Libraries

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  • by sqlrob ( 173498 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @08:27PM (#38130894)

    No, it's not.

    The content gives you something to sell, exactly what you do with it is the business model.

  • by SimonTheSoundMan ( 1012395 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @08:31PM (#38130916)

    It's easy to strip the DRM out of the files.

    Also, my local library supply audio books that you can download from home straight to your PC/Mac using Ebsco. You can take out the audio books for as short as one day. The software downloads the MP3 files to a hidden directory, I found they have no DRM attached. Copy paste to a new directory, you have the audiobook forever.

  • by magnusrex1280 ( 1075361 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @08:33PM (#38130940)
    Content is a thing that exists, whether you have a business model or not. Business model is the system or method you use to make money from a product or service, in this case the product/service is e-reader content.
  • by Penguinisto ( 415985 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @08:49PM (#38131066) Journal

    That is also known as stealing.

    Bullshit. The files were returned in the exact same condition as he received them.

    Now copyright violations OTOH...

  • by gweihir ( 88907 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @08:53PM (#38131104)

    Copyright infringement is not stealing. Look it up sometime.

  • by betterunixthanunix ( 980855 ) on Monday November 21, 2011 @09:02PM (#38131162)

    That is also known as stealing

    Only by people who have never looked up the definitions of "stealing" and "copying."

    And congratulations, you are fucking over libraries and everyone else (future versions will have ever more draconian DRM or simply not be available in libraries) for your own greed.

    DRM is always doomed to fail. It attempts to solve an unsolvable security engineering problem (the secure device in an insecure environment) and the security only needs to be broken once for the whole system to fall apart. For some reason, copyright-based industries have failed to grasp this fundamental truth, and their lobbyists have convinced governments to prop up their bad security systems with undemocratic laws and censorship. They have even convinced the public school system to spread their greed-driven propaganda to young children.

    Yet you defend these people.

  • Re:What the Hell?! (Score:2, Informative)

    by gmhowell ( 26755 ) <gmhowell@gmail.com> on Tuesday November 22, 2011 @02:49AM (#38133078) Homepage Journal

    Are you new here??

    Not so new that I haven't seen that joke a hundred times or cracked it myself more than once. Just because it's been going on for a while doesn't make this sort of 'red top' reporting acceptable.

    You must have skin much thicker than mine, honoured elder.

    No, newbie douche, the failure is on your part. What you state here is not what newcastlejon objected to above where you said:

    I thought Slashdot was above such flagrant editorialism.

    The only possible explanation is that you are new around here. Slashdot has never been above such flagrant editorialism. The site is founded on such, and has been like that since day one.

  • by Oligonicella ( 659917 ) on Tuesday November 22, 2011 @07:05AM (#38133904)
    Google, how quaint. Use a dictionary. There you'll find words have more than one meaning.

    From Webster's Unabridged, and sticking with only verb transitive:

    steal
    1. to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.
    2. to appropriate (ideas, credit, words, etc.) without right or acknowledgment.
    3. to take, get, or win insidiously, surreptitiously, subtly, or by chance: He stole my girlfriend.
    4. to move, bring, convey, or put secretly or quietly; smuggle (usually fol. by away, from, in, into, etc.): They stole the bicycle into the bedroom to surprise the child.
    5. Baseball. (of a base runner) to gain (a base) without the help of a walk or batted ball, as by running to it during the delivery of a pitch.
    6. Games. to gain (a point, advantage, etc.) by strategy, chance, or luck.
    7. to gain or seize more than one's share of attention in, as by giving a superior performance: The comedian stole the show.

    Now, if you'll kindly examine definition number two, you'll find that indeed, copying something without permission is stealing.

    This makes you (adj) ...

    wrong
    1. not in accordance with what is morally right or good: a wrong deed.
    2. deviating from truth or fact; erroneous: a wrong answer.
    3. not correct in action, judgment, opinion, method, etc., as a person; in error: You are wrong to blame him.
    4. not proper or usual; not in accordance with requirements or recommended practice: the wrong way to hold a golf club.
    5. out of order; awry; amiss: Something is wrong with the machine.
    6. not suitable or appropriate: He always says the wrong thing.
    7. (of clothing) that should be worn or kept inward or under: You're wearing the sweater wrong side out.

    ... number two as well.

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