Is Facebook Becoming a Central Bank? 232
wasimkadak sends this quote from an article at Forbes:
"Facebook's 27-year-old founder, Mark Zuckerberg, isn't usually mentioned in the same breath as Ben Bernanke, the 58-year-old head of the Federal Reserve. But Facebook's early adventures in the money-creating business are going well enough that the central-bank comparison gets tempting. ... Initially, the Credits-based economy was confined to the virtual world’s trifles. Credits could be spent to buy imaginary gold bars for aficionados of Mafia Wars, or bouquets of virtual flowers for birthday postings on friends’ Facebook accounts. This new form of digital money was cute but essentially useless for mainstream activities. Lately Credits have become more intriguing. Warner Brothers this summer offered movie-goers a chance to watch Harry Potter and The Dark Knight for 30 Credits apiece. Miramax and Paramount countered with film-viewing offers, too. In a provocative post this week on Inside Facebook, guest blogger Peter Vogel argues that Credits in the next few years will become more of a true currency. Facebook's 800 million worldwide users represent a lot of buying power. He figures Credits could evolve into commercial mainstays for digital movies and music."
Re:Bits are almost free (Score:4, Insightful)
No, they do sequels because they don't generally have to sell them. The industry knows who's going to go to see a sequel and how large that audience is and as a result is able to much more accurately gauge the prospects. They won't know whom it is precisely that will go or precisely how many, but they'll have it down pretty good in general.
That being said the studios are always looking for new ideas the big problem they tend to have is that only a fraction of a percent of the ideas they receive are actually worth filming and of those only a fraction of them are going to be memorable.
This guy is flogging his own product (Score:5, Insightful)
From the article:
Peter Vogel is co-founder of Plink, a Facebook Credits-based loyalty program that rewards Facebook members for dining and making purchases at their favorite restaurants and stores.
"Facebook credits" are just another gift card scheme. You can't cash them out. You can't invest them. You can't convert them to another currency. You can't transfer them to another individual. And Facebook takes a 30% cut off the top.
The only virtual currency that comes close to behaving like a currency is Linden Dollars, the monetary unit of Second Life. Those, you can transfer and convert.
Bitcoin had potential, but it turned into a pyramid scheme.
Re:Wired article from a few years ago (Score:4, Insightful)
Predicted all of this, and explained very clearly why as soon as there's some traction, and the ability to move/take cash out, the existing banks/authorities will be down on their heads like a weight of very heavy things.
Why Bitcoin was so scary for a time.
These things offer wonderful room for money laundering.
I dunno. I see PayPal and eBay as a cartel which should be broken up, but nodbody has done anything about it, yet. All right out there in the open.
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No, and here's why. (Score:5, Insightful)
Betteridge's Law of Headlines is an adage that states, "Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word 'no'". [wikipedia.org]
Re:This guy is flogging his own product (Score:5, Insightful)
Players love Bitcoin because deposits *and withdrawals* are instant, unlike all other online casinos. I know that some of my players also play poker at Seals With Clubs [sealswithclubs.com], a Bitcoin-only poker site. They may have a win at Dragon's Tale, shoot the money over to Seals, shoot their winnings back to DT, or into their Silk Road account to buy some goodies, or into their desktop wallet. If Bitcoin were never to go beyond gambling, it will be a success: it allows all Bitcoin-based casinos to function as one huge meta-casino.
Re:Not a true currency. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:No. No, no, no, no, no, no. (Score:5, Insightful)
You're half right. Money hasn't been worth anything since before the gold standard was dropped. Even gold is fiat currency. Money, including precious metal coinage, is just tokens meant to simplify complex barter arrangements. It only has value based on people's faith in its value.
Sorry but that's not "functioning beautifully" (Score:3, Insightful)
If it works for you, that's fine, I won't tell you not to use it. However that your tiny game (one I've never heard of, and I'm rather in to games) uses it means jack and shit. I can buy -nothing- I want with bitcoins, not a single thing. Anything I can think of that I'd desire which is sold by someone who takes bitcoins as payment.
Also are your players really using it as a currency? I doubt it, they are using it as chips just like at any other casino. As in they buy them as needed, play with them, and then cash out when they are done. That isn't what you do with a currency. A currency is something used for general transactions, and something you hold on to. When people talking about "having savings" they mean "having currency held in reserve".
IPO imminent (Score:5, Insightful)
I clicked through to TFA. I know, what was I thinking...
So, a co-founder of a business based on Facebook Credits thinks they're super-important and could be equivalent to actual money. Right. Next ridiculous story, please.
I expect more stories inflating Facebook's perceived worth to be pushed to the mainstream media in the coming months as Facebook's IPO is imminent.
Re:Look I'm sure they'll only create a few extra (Score:5, Insightful)
Ummm, no. The finance majors don't say that. Nor do the economists. There is chutpzah, there is subterfuge, and there are varying indicators, but it's not pretend.
When a letter of credit clears, there's a complex set of events that's spawned. Lots of people get paid. Sometimes they get paid in differing currencies, but they get paid. When the Russians had their post Soviet-breakup crunch, maybe they paid in potatoes, but they paid. Trading is something humans do well, and there is some predictability beyond "pretend".
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And, with perfect investing prowess... (Score:4, Insightful)
Cool - your $10 in cybergold could be about 6 grand now, if you played your cards right!
Of course, if you left that tenner in your coat pocket, you can only get about $7.50 1998 equivalent worth of stuff...
Re:No. No, no, no, no, no, no. (Score:5, Insightful)
Or, more precisely, by their willingness to accept it as payment. Recursively. Acceptance all the way down.
Ya, right (Score:4, Insightful)
When people start accepting Facebook dollars as part of their salary then it will be a real currency. Until then it will be a promotional gimmick, just a bit more complicated than Marlboro boxes.
Re:Cash out early (Score:5, Insightful)
The real value of silver has undergone drastic changes in the past, sometimes because of enormous new finds, sometimes for other reasons.
It's probably better to use "a nice lunch" (as in a good but unpretentious restaurant meal of tasty, nutritious, healthful food, containing about 500 kcal) as your price reference. A meal at a restaurant is both a product and a service, and it contains a range of raw materials. Since the restaurant needs to pay real estate costs it also reflects the housing market.
Re:And, with perfect investing prowess... (Score:5, Insightful)
Left it in my coat pocket? Heck no, I was a college kid back then. It was the end of the school year, and I was pretty much broke. That $10 was enough to buy food for two weeks!