Canadian Music Industry Wants Subscriber Disclosure Without Court Oversight

An anonymous reader writes "The incredible demands of the Canadian music industry as it seeks a massive overhaul of Canadian copyright law continues. It is seeking increased liability for social networking sites, search engines, blogging platforms, video sites, and many other websites featuring third party contributions, plus a new iPod tax, and an extension in the term of copyright. Last week, it went further, demanding a requirement for Internet providers to disclose customer name and address information to copyright owners without court oversight as well as takedowns with no due process and unlimited statutory damages."

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Anonymous Coward]

Stephen Harper happened.

Color me shocked

[MonsterTrimble]

The CRIA is the canadian arm of the RIAA. They just reached a settlement to pay $47.5 million to songwriters which they had been screwing for decades [thecmuwebsite.com] Why is anyone surprised they would try for this?

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Anonymous Coward]

This hasn't passed yet. We massively protested the Lawful Access act(C30) and it's on hold now. Some of their demands are exactly why C30 didn't pass yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't pass too. What they are asking isn't in the bill yet, it's their wish list, a very naughty wish list.

The sheer greed of these men know no bounds.

[argee]

Apparently, draft dodgers is not the only thing we exported across our Northern Border.
We have apparently also exported limitless greed, avarice, and thirst for power.
Oh, add corruption, corporatism and entitlement to the list!

Did I forget anything?

Re:Color me shocked

[compro01]

No, the CIMA is a different bunch.

The group formerly known as the CRIA changed their name to "Music Canada" last year.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[SuricouRaven]

That's how politics is done. If you want A, you demand A, B, C, D, E and F... knowing that your opponents will argue strongly, and not give up until they have something of a victory. So they defeat you on B, C, D, E and F, and declare themselves successful - but you get away with A, which is what you wanted all along. Everything else was just to play the game.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Anonymous Coward]

Basically, history repeating itself. The radical right snuck in.

Once upon a time, the Republican party in the US were decent and respectable. Case in point, Abe Lincoln. Then Nixon and the rest of his radical right invaded the party and made a dramatic "course correction".

In Canada, the conservative party used to be a pretty decent set of people. Boring, but trustworthy. Then Brian Mulroney came along, introduced a number of measures that generated so much great deal of dislike ("free trade" and a federal sales tax) for the party that they shrank to a tiny fraction of their former size. The radical right, calling themselves "the Reform Party", were generally regarded as a bunch of dangerous kooks and hence didn't have a chance of getting into power. However, they brokered a merger with the now pitiful Conservative party, gaining a few seats, but more importantly, getting the right to use the "Conservative Party" name. People might have been embarrassed to vote for the Reform Party, but the voting for "Conservative Party" was a family tradition. The new "Conservative Party" eventually managed a few minority governments because the center and left wing votes were split among too many other parties before eventually winning a majority government.

And yes, most of us are embarrassed by being represented by Stephen Harper as you were when George Bush Jr was in power.

Re:Color me shocked

[DarwinSurvivor]

And you think it would turn out any better with 90% of the voting populace being completely uninformed about the candidates? What you'd most likely end up with would be people ether handing in blank/invalid ballots (they are anonymous after all) or simply picking the one at the top of the page. The only good that could POSSIBLY come of this would be that minority parties would get more representation. But remember, for every GOOD minority party, there are also VERY, VERY BAD ones. I'm not talking "destroy the environment" bad, I'm talking white-supremest bad (no joke, take a look at some of the parties that never get seats, it's bloody frightening what some of them push).

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[Beardo the Bearded]

2 years. That's enough time to get the cash from a top-40 hit, have any game be relegated to a "classic" / "greatest hits", and get a movie released onto DVD.

After that, it's all public domain.

You would still require judicial oversight and a warrant.

Re:You used to be cool, Canada

[eddy the lip]

I live in rural Alberta, so I'm dead in the Conservative heartland. I'm an hours drive from Stockwell Day's old stomping ground.

Talking to people during the last election, I heard two things: oil sands and economy. A lot of people in Alberta think that anyone other than the Conservatives will kill the oil sands and cost jobs, and that the only party that's strong on the economy is the Conservatives. They could prorogue parliament, insult vets, cut any program they felt like, and those two items would still trump it.

I was actually surprised how little ideology I ran into. It's the first election I've gone out and really engaged people to find out why they were voting Tory. People here like their big trucks, and they don't want to lose their big trucks, and everything else is secondary.

I have no idea what GTAs excuse was.