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The Fall of Data Haven Sealand 210

Fluffeh writes "Ars has a great article about the history of Sealand, a data haven — a place where you can host almost anything, as long as it follows the very bare laws of Sealand Government. Quoting: 'HavenCo's failure — and make no mistake about it, HavenCo did fail — shows how hard it is to get out from under government's thumb. HavenCo built it, but no one came. For a host of reasons, ranging from its physical vulnerability to the fact that The Man doesn't care where you store your data if he can get his hands on you, Sealand was never able to offer the kind of immunity from law that digital rebels sought. And, paradoxically, by seeking to avoid government, HavenCo made itself exquisitely vulnerable (PDF) to one government in particular: Sealand's.'"
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The Fall of Data Haven Sealand

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @08:22AM (#39495087)

    Anytime you *think* you have the intellect to 'get the better of me'? Come on over here -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2734503&cid=39493361 [slashdot.org] & disprove any points I have made on hosts files there, you trolling worm!

    (Along with the thoughts & opinions of your /. peers that outnumber your craven tactics 40++:1 and actually agree that hosts files are useful for speed, security, and more of beneficial value to they and others)

    You're 'so brave' doing cowardly little trollish ad hominem attack attempts, in your snide little comment there -> http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2734503&cid=39406223 [slashdot.org] !

    Let's see how well you bear up under fire when you're challenged to disprove not only the thoughts of others on hosts files benefits they have gotten using custom hosts files, but also points I have made in favor of hosts files that have gotten myself modded up MANY TIMES here by others also (which is tough to get as an AC since /. buries our posts by default).

    * It is going to be a PLEASURE annihilating you...

    APK

    P.S.=> So yes - that's right: I am going to make it a point to humiliate you now, worm.

    Especially since you saw fit to attempt to try to 'start up' with me there with an off-topic illogical failing attempt @ ad hominem attacks directed my way there!

    So - now the shoe's on the other foot, except that it will illustrate your inadequacy in things technical in computing hugely, proving this is no mere ad hominem attack on my part (only payback you merited, and best part is? YOU only did this, to yourself, worm)... apk

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @09:04AM (#39495387)

    How can it be, when there are no horses?

    UK - Horses.

    US - Horses

    Spain - Horses.

    Sweden - Horses

    France - Horses

    Sealand - No horses!

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @09:12AM (#39495465)

    Sealand - seahorses.

  • by tripleevenfall ( 1990004 ) on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @09:52AM (#39495913)

    Sealand is SO last year, now it's servers hosted on drone aircraft...

  • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @12:31PM (#39497753) Homepage Journal

    There is no child labour because of industrial revolution and capitalism, which increased productivity of the population to the point, when parents didn't have to send their kids to work.

    Or did you think somebody forced the parents to do so? Or do you believe that gov't has wealth that it gets from anywhere else rather than stealing it from the people who produce it?

    Gov't has nothing, children always worked until free market capitalism and industrialisation increased people's productivity by applying savings as investment to build/acquire better tools.

    It's capital that makes people more productive, because capital creates better tools, and so instead of a stick, the person gets a shovel and then an excavator and can do work of hundreds of people by himself.

    Without free market capitalism and industrialisation children still would have worked since very young age, and now, that USA has abandoned the principles of freedom, children WILL WORK ONCE AGAIN, and they will starve and that's what your bankrupt ideology is leading to, circlehead.

    As to pinkertons, etc. - I would absolutely protect my private property with private security force, and that's my absolute right as a property owner and it's my responsibility as well.

    Gov't is tyranny, and those who promote more of it are the tyrants.

  • by roman_mir ( 125474 ) on Wednesday March 28, 2012 @12:35PM (#39497801) Homepage Journal

    Oh, and as to the profit motive - that's right. That's the ONLY motive that increases the overall wealth in the market because it allows allocating resources efficiently. There is no other mechanism known to men to do so, no amount of central planning, no amount of dictatorship and totalitarianism can do as good of a job allocating resources as private individuals and businesses within the context of free market (market free of gov't intervention).

    The more profit the better.

    Profit is VIRTUE IN ITSELF, because it is the only real indicator telling us whether the enterprise is worthwhile or worthless and which way to move.

Get hold of portable property. -- Charles Dickens, "Great Expectations"

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