Paramount Claims Louis CK "Didn't Monetize" 288
Weezul writes "Paramount's 'Worldwide VP of Content Protection and Outreach' Al Perry has insinuated that Louis CK making $1 million in 12 days means he isn't monetizing. Al Perry asserted that 'copyright law gives creators the right to monetize their creations, and that even if people like Louis C.K. decide not to do so, that's a choice and not a requirement.' Bonus, Slashdot favorite Jonathan Coulton apparently grossed almost half a million last year."
And who/what is "Louis CK"? (Score:4, Interesting)
Would it have killed the submitter to include about three to five words informing us who the frack "Louis CK" is? Yes, it's just a Google away, but it would have been nice to mention it in the submission. (Or the editors could have added it.)
Comedy Specials (Score:5, Interesting)
Louie said on the Opie and Anthony show that he's never seen any of the money from the sales of his comedy specials.
Re:Monetizing... what would Hollywood know? (Score:5, Interesting)
Exactly, according to them they couldn't make a profit from revenues of almost 1 billion USD (Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix [slashfilm.com].
I'm starting to believe that Hollywood really doesn't want to make money. After all, why else do they not want to put their films on the UK version of Netflix, when they're available on the US version? In the hope that we'll buy them on DVD instead? Good luck with that one.
Re:Monetizing... what would Hollywood know? (Score:5, Interesting)
Movies that Hollywood has claimed a loss for:
- Forrest Gump (as a result, the author refused to sell the studio the rights to the sequel)
- Spiderman (Stan Lee successfully sued over this one)
- My Big Fat Greek Wedding (most of the cast then sued the studio for a share of the profits)
- Babylon 5 ("Basically", says Straczynski, "by the terms of my contract, if a set on a WB movie burns down in Botswana, they can charge it against B5's profits.")
- Lord of the Rings (resulted in Peter Jackson not directing The Hobbit, also - 15 actors suing the studio for not receiving their cut of the profits)
- Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (reported a $167 million loss... which is roughly equal to the film's budget.)
Paramount's definition of "Monetize" (Score:5, Interesting)
Based on Al Perry's comments do we assume that "monetize" is defined by Paramount and the rest of the MPAA/RIAA as the use of extortion tactics to gain revenue from copyrighted materials, or maybe it's not monetizing unless the courts are involved?
The fact that Louis CK was able to make one million dollars in 12 days yet not meet Al Perry's definition of "monetize" implies this.
The "Recipe"? (Score:5, Interesting)
Great article. I'll save the media production bashing to those already on the trail and go to what I thought was an interesting theory by Lewis CK. "The key to success is being polite, awesome, and human".
I don't think the first one makes that much difference. Lewis Black makes me laugh so hard I cry, and he's not polite. He is awesome, and to me funny. Steven Write is polite and human, but not what I would call awesome. Monotone is something that many people just can't handle.
Anyway, I think that being human is probably the biggest factor. Glad to see something positive coming out of all this!
Re:I don't get that. (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, it's two sides of a coin, there's "guilt" on one side and "goodwill" on the other, both create revenue but neither is really a business model. There are people like Louis CK, just like there are people like you, but I think it's evident, at least at this time, that there aren't enough people like you to keep anybody but the Louis CKs of the world paid more than occasionally. It really is just a way for superstars to extract a premium, after making their name on the back of "monetized" media.
As far as OSS is concerned, people give money to projects like Mozilla all the time, but in that particular case they're almost completely dependent on their "monetized" search field revenues, just as MySQL is monetized through a for-pay license tier, Android is monetized through a variety of different revenue streams, and Linux is monetized through support licenses.
Red Hat doesn't depend on goodwill and neither should Louis CK.
Re:I don't get that. (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, it's two sides of a coin, there's "guilt" on one side and "goodwill" on the other, both create revenue but neither is really a business model. There are people like Louis CK, just like there are people like you, but I think it's evident, at least at this time, that there aren't enough people like you to keep anybody but the Louis CKs of the world paid more than occasionally. It really is just a way for superstars to extract a premium, after making their name on the back of "monetized" media.
What an interesting set of blinders you wear. Exactly how many people have to be wildly successful with a business model based on goodwill (or I will grant you that perhaps some people feel guilty) before it's considered a 'business model'?
There are a lot of independent artists that succeed with very little in the way of copyright enforcement. There is practically no webcomic author that sues his or her customers, though sometimes cranky letters are written. There are numerous Kickstarter projects funding various kinds of artistic expression that have been wildly successful (including the Order of the Stick webcome). There's Radiohead and NIN doing 'pay what you want' albums that have been wild financial successes. And, of course, there's the example of Johnathan Coulton.
And Kickstarter projects (as an example) are certainly not wholly goodwill based, and they aren't in the least guilt based. They are based on people getting together collectively to pay for the creation of something they all want.
So, how many have to succeed without the iron bands of copyright before you agree that those aren't necessary for you to be wildly profitable? Seriously. Is there any possible number of counterexamples that will actually change your mind, or do you feel that the only reason anybody does anything is because they will be sued or put in jail if they don't?