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Wikimedia Treats Their Operations Like Their Projects 33

Posted by Soulskill
from the innovative-shenanigans dept.
An anonymous reader writes "Wikimedia Foundation is now treating their infrastructure like one of their projects, in that volunteers can edit it. Thanks to Wikimedia Labs, the volunteers can make changes to the infrastructure via puppet and git. After code review, changes can be deployed to production. After years of having no new root or shell-level volunteers, it's now possible for anyone to contribute to how Wikimedia projects are run from an infrastructure perspective."
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Wikimedia Treats Their Operations Like Their Projects

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  • policies (Score:5, Funny)

    by girlintraining (1395911) on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @01:41AM (#39719889)
    Well, if their infrastructure policies are anything like their editing policies, this should be a real treat to watch. Especially when they get to that bit about how their infrastructure should work according to popular opinion... It's all going to go to hell the first time some csci major tries to make the network fully compliant with the OSI model... they'll have no choice but to rollback any attempt to reverse it because everybody says the OSI model is an accurate representation of a real network. *giggle*
    • Not a free-for-all (Score:4, Informative)

      by robla (4860) on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @03:31AM (#39720395) Homepage Journal

      Any changes to the infrastructure need to get reviewed by someone in the Wikimedia Operations staff prior to actually going live, and they tend to be pretty careful about letting things through. Here's the list of changes awaiting review [wikimedia.org], along with discussion of each proposed change in many cases.

      • by Xtifr (1323)

        Yeah, it's like saying that Linux is open to anyone. Anyone can download the complete git repo, and make all the changes they want and even share them, via git, but nothing goes into the main branches without the say-so of Linus or one of his lieutenants.

        It sounds like they're basically saying that now, not only is Mediawiki itself open, but so is all the site-specific configuration. But it's open in the same way--you can make your own forks for your own site, but they're not required to accept your chang

      • by Ihmhi (1206036)

        I'd love to see a list of the troll posts...

        "Submission 32-12042012153856: replace all hard drives with sticks of butter."

      • by SEWilco (27983)
        They've crowdsourced their typing and script writing.
    • by akerasi (1076913)
      I wonder how long it will take for someone to make the infrastructure shaped like the words "Citation Needed".
  • Great, now they're handling infrastructure by committee. I can see this getting expensive (and broke to fuck) quite quickly. And dibs on how long it'll be before we see a parallel structure to the "editor cabal" problem they already have.
    • by gmhowell (26755)

      Great, now they're handling infrastructure by committee.
      I can see this getting expensive (and broke to fuck) quite quickly.

      And dibs on how long it'll be before we see a parallel structure to the "editor cabal" problem they already have.

      Well, this is slashdot. A quick check of the article shows that it is 1.5 days old. Newish for the 'dot, but still old. Given all that, I'd say that there is already a cabal well and truly entrenched.

      I'm wondering if they'll make "GOTO considered harmful" an explicit policy. WP:GCH?

    • by pne (93383)

      And dibs on how long it'll be before we see a parallel structure to the "editor cabal" problem they already have.

      Iâ(TM)ll say.

      âoeWe canâ(TM)t do it like that because of policy X?â â" âoeWhere does it say that? Who decided that?â â" âoeIt doesnâ(TM)t say that anywhere, and we the cabal decided that policy. Itâ(TM)s not open to discussion; this is not a majority-vote thing.â

      • by Anonymous Coward

        Whereas on /. the cabal's policy is NO UTF-8 FOR YOU, which apparently you forgot about...

        • by pne (93383)

          Whereas on /. the cabal's policy is NO UTF-8 FOR YOU, which apparently you forgot about...

          Or didn't know about in the first place.

          What century are we in again?

    • by pne (93383)

      And dibs on how long it'll be before we see a parallel structure to the "editor cabal" problem they already have.

      I'll say.

      "We can’t do it like that because of policy X?" -- "Where does it say that? Who decided that?" -- "It doesn’t say that anywhere, and we the cabal decided that policy. It’s not open to discussion; this is not a majority-vote thing."

  • Wond3rful! (Score:3, Funny)

    by Tommy Bologna (2431404) on Wednesday April 18, 2012 @06:57AM (#39721193)
    I have just edited the payroll schedule. Nobody at Wikimedia will be paid until 2062, and Jimmy Wales will now be charged $2 for every page view.
    • by cellurl (906920) *
      They should stop trying to "create" all content locally. Instead, let people vote on the best article "out" on the internet. They incorporate that external page and give credit. Trying to "be" the borg of information doesn't seem distributive enough. I for one don't want to contribute to their success...

      Not sure about tools. They will end up with 20chiefs (voting and wacking) watching the one Indian work...

      Help eliminate stupid speeding tickets. [wikispeedia.org]
  • Maybe they should have tried to make it more widely known that they needed help in that area before opening it up like that. I'm sure there are people out there would have jumped at the oppurtunity to help out with Wikipedia at that level for the coolness factor.

    • I know i would have.
      Even if it doesn't pay the bills, "Responsible for required to server one of the top 10 pages on the internet" is a great resume line item.

  • From /manifests/admins.pp:

        class admins::analinterns {
            ....

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