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New Evidence Indicates Amelia Earhart Survived For a Time on Pacific Atoll 365

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In light of new evidence publicly released Friday showing artifacts believed to have been Amelia Earhart's, the U.S. Navy is prepping a mission to investigate the area where they were found. Next month marks the 75th anniversary of Earhart's disappearance, but the just-announced discovery of personal effects and the evidence of cooking represents the most concrete evidence yet that she did not simply crash into the ocean.
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New Evidence Indicates Amelia Earhart Survived For a Time on Pacific Atoll

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  • Yay (Score:4, Funny)

    by rossdee (243626) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @04:55PM (#40203507)

    Good on her for surviving

    • Re:Yay (Score:5, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:02PM (#40203569)

      The most amazing part is that after WWII she managed to turn an escaped Hitler into not such a bad guy. That's not to mention how she helped Elvis start to eat better. She was an amazing person.

    • Re:Yay (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:50PM (#40203897)

      She didn't survive long. She was eaten by giant sized coconut crabs. I kid you not. Google it. Plenty of evidence there that giant crabs ate her. Coconut crabs can be as large as garbage cans.

      • Re:Yay (Score:4, Funny)

        by Grishnakh (216268) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @09:42PM (#40205175)

        No, these were mutant coconut crabs the size of cars. They were the product of experiments by Captain Nemo. Unfortunately, she wasn't able to find refuge in the Nautilus because it was sunk when the island's volcano erupted, turning it into an atoll.

    • Tough call (Score:5, Insightful)

      by arcite (661011) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @06:07PM (#40203997)
      Crash land into the ocean and die relatively instantly.... or land on a chunk of useless rock, last for a few days eating fish or crabs, then dying a slow horrible death from dehydration and exposure.
      • or land on a chunk of useless rock, last for a few days eating fish or crabs, then dying a slow horrible death from dehydration and exposure.

        Worse -- in Soviet Kiribati, crabs eat you [msn.com].

      • Re:Tough call (Score:5, Insightful)

        by JWSmythe (446288) <jwsmythe@jwsm[ ]e.com ['yth' in gap]> on Sunday June 03, 2012 @06:51PM (#40204279) Homepage Journal

            Just a rough guess from the article, it wasn't a short while. I'd say at least a few weeks. Who knows what finally did them in though. A little while without rain could have depleted their water supply. Exposure to the sun could have done it. There wasn't a mention of any makeshift cover. For all we know, a particularly nasty storm could have swept them out to sea. A 1938 report stated that the highest point was 16 feet above low sea level, and nothing is to say that they camped at the highest point. Looking at the island with Google Maps, it appears the sea sweeps across the southern side on a regular basis.

            It would be nice to think they only survived for days. It could have been months. With no real supplies, something as simple as a cut could have been fatal.

            In any case, they didn't survive. That is very unfortunate, as they could have if they had been found in time.

      • The crash island is just a few hundred miles next to the target island. A proper investigation would try to visit the uninhabited islands within some range of the plane's fly path. 70 years later the US Navy is reinvestigating, maybe they feel they neglected something..
        • by TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @10:59PM (#40205523)
          The Navy DID look for her. They pulled out all the stops, on orders from Roosevelt himself. Earhart shoud've been better prepared for such an endevor-- but neither she nor Noonan could understand Morse code (something that would've prevented their loss) nor did either receive any survival training (something that might've saved their lives on Niko). The Navy sent a battleship and an aircraft carrier to look for her, but her lack of Morse skills doomed her. Even the Japanese navy helped to look for her.
  • The only thing new is the history that you don't know.
  • Who? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @04:59PM (#40203535)

    No offense, but who is she? Can't you add this information in the damn summary?

    • Re:Who? (Score:5, Funny)

      by owenferguson (521762) <{owenferguson} {at} {hotmail.com}> on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:01PM (#40203555)
      I would mod this up if I could. You win one internets.
    • Re:Who? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by wisnoskij (1206448) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:08PM (#40203615) Homepage

      I guess the writer assumed, and I would of as well, that every Slashdot user knows at least a little about general history, the history of technology, or has at least watched a little star trek.

      She is the most famous pilot ever, and was one back when that it was a huge deal that she was a woman. She eventually wanted to be the first the cross the pacific or something like that and was never heard form again. As as such there are very many myths about her (abducted by aliens, etc.).

      • Re:Who? (Score:5, Funny)

        by Dunbal (464142) * on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:14PM (#40203661)

        She is the most famous pilot ever

        She is in no way Snoopy.

        • by sdnoob (917382)

          snoopy! awesome!

          ....In the nick of time, a hero arose
          A funny-looking dog with a big black nose
          He flew into the sky to seek revenge.....

          maybe he meant most famous female pilot.. after all, you have orville, wilbur and that lindbergh fellow to consider, too, besides that most famous of world war i flying aces.

        • She is the most famous pilot ever

          She is in no way Snoopy.

          Of course not. Snoopy people don't crash their airplanes to live the rest of their lives on desert islands. The only way to get snoopy on a desert island is to get deeply introspective, and that gets quite repetitive after a while.

      • Re:Who? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:15PM (#40203667)

        Agree with all of the above, except for:

        She is the most famous pilot ever ...

        I think "most famous pilot ever" has to go to Charles Lindbergh, not only because of his achievements but also the infamous kidnapping of his baby. And if anyone doesn't know who he was, may I suggest you avail yourself of a search engine before you go getting all indignant?

        • Well, I had never heard of Charles Lindbergh before. I'm in no way a cross section of everything except myself, but as for google results, Amelia Earhart has 52,000,000 while Charles Lindbergh has 700,000.

          Using quotes (which should reduce the results for both), google yields 5.8 million for Amelia Earhart, 2.6 million for Charles Lindbergh.

          Let me add a couple of names who get lower results than Amelia Earhart (using quotes): Chuck Yeager and the freaking Wright Brothers.

          • Re:Who? (Score:4, Insightful)

            by ktappe (747125) on Monday June 04, 2012 @01:41PM (#40210915)

            Well, I had never heard of Charles Lindbergh before.

            I don't expect the current generation to know everything about the previous generations. But if a person's achievements resulted in a huge ticker-tape parade being thrown for them, and subsequently were on the front pages of every newspaper in the country when their baby was kidnapped, then that's a name you should probably have been taught in school. I don't blame you, I blame your teachers. Shame on them.

      • Re:Who? (Score:4, Informative)

        by DesScorp (410532) <DesScorp.Gmail@com> on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:16PM (#40203671) Homepage Journal

        She is the most famous pilot ever

        Nope. Chuck Yeager is the most famous pilot ever. And people still know who he is.

        • Re:Who? (Score:5, Interesting)

          by tragedy (27079) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:24PM (#40203727)

          What about the Red Baron? Isn't he a contender for most famous pilot ever (even if most people don't know his actual name)? I think we can agree that Amelia Earhart is _one_ of the most famous pilots ever and that there probably isn't one singular "most famous pilot ever".

        • by rubycodez (864176)

          Plus, Yeager is obviously a much better pilot and navigator than these two dead wanabees

          • Re:Who? (Score:5, Insightful)

            by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:33PM (#40203787)

            Yeager was a test pilot. He wasn't the greatest pilot ever, just the last man standing. The greatest pilot ever is and probably will forever remain anonymous.

            Saying that pilots made popular by the media are the greatest ever is like saying Justin Bieber is the best singer ever.

            • Saying that pilots made popular by the media are the greatest ever is like saying Justin Bieber is the best singer ever.

              And your point is...?

          • Re:Who? (Score:5, Informative)

            by tomhath (637240) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:59PM (#40203941)
            Earhart and Noonan missed the island because the chart they had was wrong and the plane's radio receiver wasn't working. They arrived at the spot where the chart said the island was and did everything right to find it.
        • by PPH (736903)

          What about Wrong Way Corrigan [wikipedia.org]? He made a bigger navigational error than Earhart/Noonan. And survived.

        • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

          by Anonymous Coward

          She is the most famous pilot ever

          Nope. Chuck Yeager is the most famous pilot ever. And people still know who he is.

          Chuck who?

        • Re:Who? (Score:5, Interesting)

          by shutdown -p now (807394) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @07:01PM (#40204325) Journal

          In US, perhaps. I very much doubt that there is a single name that would be equally recognizable regardless of one's cultural background, though. For me, the first name that pops into my head corresponding to "most famous pilot" is probably Chkalov.

        • Nope. Chuck Yeager is the most famous pilot ever.

          I can't agree with that. I'd have to go with either Dwight Eisenhower or George W Bush.

      • Re:Who? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by NFN_NLN (633283) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:50PM (#40203883)

        She is the most famous pilot ever...

        Really, the most famous pilot EVAR? More famous than the Wright brothers?

        • Oh come on people. Yes, Yeager, the Wright Bros, Snoopy, The Red Baron, Tom Cruise in Top Gun (but not when he was freaking out) and, indeed, Earhart were all admirable pilots, but none compare with Biggles.

          Or possibly Pilot from Farscape.
      • Well put.

        After reading your thoughtful and well-considered comment, I'm abashed. I just went ballistic on an AC who suggested knowledge of Amelia Earhart was merely the product of her being American. : P

    • Re:Who? (Score:5, Informative)

      by artor3 (1344997) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:12PM (#40203641)

      A famous aviator, that everyone in the US knows of (if only for the fact that she disappeared). The phrase "needs no introduction" comes to mind. Explaining who she is would have been like starting an article with "Abraham Lincoln, the president of the United States during the Civil War". If you don't recognize the name, then you're either a small child or from some other country. If it's the latter, you should accept that American websites will sometimes refer to American celebrities, and in such situations Wikipedia is your friend.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by nurb432 (527695)

      Product of a public school i take it?

      If you really didn't know who she was and are from the USA, this is a sad day as i'm sure you were not alone.

    • All of you giving this guy a hard time for not knowing something that's considered common knowledge are missing out on your big chance: http://xkcd.com/1053/ [xkcd.com]

  • *YAWN* (Score:4, Interesting)

    by RLiegh (247921) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:07PM (#40203601) Homepage Journal

    who cares?

    Remarkably, we've pretty much had the Earhart mystery solved ever since partial remains were found on an island... in 1940. That's right, 70 years ago. Only four years after she vanished.

    Read more: 6 Famous Unsolved Mysteries (That Have Totally Been Solved) | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/article_18718_6-famous-unsolved-mysteries-that-have-totally-been-solved.html#ixzz1wlalcIS3 [cracked.com]

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by artor3 (1344997)

      Obviously not you, and yet you took the time to post. Tell me, exactly how boring is your life?

  • by GodfatherofSoul (174979) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:12PM (#40203647)

    It sounds like they were surviving fairly well which would indicate they weren't so injured that they couldn't keep themselves going on the island. And, if they were fishing (and not relying on birds/eggs) they could probably survive indefinitely. So, what did them in?

    • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:24PM (#40203731)

      Hate to break it to you, but...nobody can survive indefinitely. We all die at some time, for very little reason sometimes.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Imagine yourself living in a small, isolated place with your wife, 24/7. Now imagine the wife a strong, stuborn feminist.

      Poor Fred.

    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by Howitzer86 (964585)
      Creepers.
    • by artor3 (1344997)

      Thirst, possibly? Depending on the size of the atoll, it might have been very difficult to find fresh water.

    • by goffster (1104287) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:45PM (#40203857)

      The particular island she landed is noted for an extremely poor supply of freshwater.
      People have tried to live on this island but failed because water was not at all reliable.

    • by HW_Hack (1031622) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:56PM (#40203919)

      I've seen some videos of this groups work on this little island. It is no tropical paradise. I don't believe there is any fresh water - so they would need to capture evaporating water somehow. And the island is infested with spider crabs from the size of golf balls to the size of soccer balls. And these crabs are looking for something to eat. You could survive a short time there - long term would be a slice of hell.

      Plus we all take modern medicine for granted -- stranded on an island a cut or injury could become infected and that is pretty much game over .... then the crabs eat your body and scatter your bones.

    • by TheGoodNamesWereGone (1844118) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @09:58PM (#40205265)
      Earhart probably died of thirst. Post-loss radio transmissions suggest that Noonan was seriously injured during the crash landing; if so he probably went before she did. The last credible reception of an Earhart broadcast was on July 7, five days after they disappeared. Niko is hellishly hot, and finding water would've been a real problem. Neither of them understood Morse code, nor had they undergone any meaningful survival training, When seach planes from the battleship Colorado flew over on the 10th they were possibly too weak to get to a clear area in order to wave. That first night encountering coconut crabs must've been truly terrifying. They won't predate you, but if you fall asleep they might think you were carrion....
  • by Anonymous Coward

    These TIGHAR folks have been pushing this pet theory of theirs for quite a while.

    http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4295

  • Not good evidence (Score:5, Insightful)

    by technothrasher (689062) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @05:45PM (#40203863)
    It makes my chuckle that there is a "RECOMMENDED: Are you scientifically literate? Take the quiz" link imbedded into the article, as this 'evidence' from TIGHAR is exactly the opposite of good science. They have been pushing this nonsense for a while. They've decided she was on this island and continue to look only for confirming information to support their hypothesis, rather than attempting to falsify it. They could start by admitting that there have been a lot of people who traveled to and briefly lived on that island throughout the years, particularly many, many pearl divers, and that finding various pieces of junk on the island is completely and entirely consistent with this, and not even slightly compelling evidence that Earhart left this junk.
  • I hope she happened to have a copy of the book Robinson Crusoe on hand to take her mind off of her predicament.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Kiribati is the small nation that includes Gardner Island. A US Navy expedition into the area would pump money into the local economy. This sort of expedition is often encouraged by local governments. The military is a diplomatic tool as much as it is anything else. Considering the shifting politics of the region keeping a good relationship with a small but well placed country could bring significant benefits in time of crisis. For historical reference Tarawa, of the Battle of Tarawa, is the capital of Kiri

  • by raque (457836) <jimwall@@@mac...com> on Sunday June 03, 2012 @06:18PM (#40204067)

    Kiribati is the small nation that includes Gardner Island. A US Navy expedition into the area would pump money into the local economy. This sort of expedition is often encouraged by local governments. The military is a diplomatic tool as much as it is anything else. Considering the shifting politics of the region keeping a good relationship with a small but well placed country could bring significant benefits in time of crisis. For historical reference Tarawa, of the Battle of Tarawa, is the capital of Kiribati.

    sorry for the double post, but this time I am logged in.

  • by Tastecicles (1153671) on Sunday June 03, 2012 @07:00PM (#40204321)

    So the Voyager episode "The 37s" didn't/won't really happen?

    Now I'm disillusioned.

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