Emacs 24.1 Released 161
First time accepted submitter JOrgePeixoto writes "Emacs 24.1 has been released. New features include a new packaging system and interface (M-x list-packages), support for displaying and editing bidirectional text, support for lexical scoping in Emacs Lisp, improvements to the Custom Themes system, unified/improved completion system in many modes and packages and support for GnuTLS (for built-in TLS/SSL encryption), GTK+ 3,
ImageMagick, SELinux, and Libxml2."
Re:I wonder (Score:5, Interesting)
whether there's still an ongoing debate about "emacs vs vi".
Sure. If you need to change one line in /etc/puppet/modules/apache/files/http.conf or whatever, its silly to light up emacs and make sure you had originally SSH'ed into the puppetmaster with -X for X forwarding blah blah blah. On the other hand if you're doing "serious" all day long software development, the emacs IDE remains superior to anything else out there, and far superior to vi. All you need to do is close the view of the world down to narrow little tasks and its off to the races.
I've used both, but never interchangeably, they each have their optimum "area".
Re:This is an outrage!! (Score:4, Interesting)
Actually the only thing emacs is missing is an interface more like VI.
(insert gameshow Bzzzzt)
http://emacswiki.org/emacs/VimMode [emacswiki.org]
Re:I wonder (Score:5, Interesting)
Heh, I almost always launch emacs with the "-nw" switch, and when I'm installing it on my own machines, I install the "-nox" flavor of the packages. I've been using Emacs since version 18 back in the 1980s, and we didn't need no fancy GUI back then, and I don't want it today neither.
You kids get off my lawn.
(Still, I do fire up vi for very small very simple editing tasks. And sometimes I try to drive both sides of the flamewar crazy by running Emacs in vi-emulation mode.)
Emacs env and Emacs Muse (Score:4, Interesting)
Speaking of which, if one is working under Emacs, rather than ash/bash/csh/...zsh as the interface to the OS, can one use other editors, be it vim, pico, nano or whatever other editor there may be under unix (I'm using the term loosely to cover linux, bsds, minix, svr4, or any other variant)
Another question - looking @ the GNU software directory, there is also an Emacs muse, which is 'an authoring and publishing environment for Emacs. It simplifies the process of writing documents and publishing them to various output formats.'. Has anybody ever tried that before? How is it, and what is the status of its development? How does it compare to similar tools from, say, Adobe? This seems to be one application that would do well under a CLI, and not need DEs to work under, and it would be a good extension of Emacs' capabilities.
Re:I wonder (Score:3, Interesting)
But with evil-mode being such an amazing vi-like environment for emacs, for me, its really hard to justify vim anymore (even though I was a big vim guy for years). And org-mode rocks.
There are some nice plugins for vim these days though, that have no easy equivalent in emacs. Syntastic, for example, just works out of the box and does a lot of advanced things that emacs requires tons of lisp twiddling to accomplish... but oh well.