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BitTorrent Tries To Appease Users By Making Torrent Ads Optional 215

Posted by timothy
from the readers-have-long-memories dept.
hypnosec writes "BitTorrent has backtracked on their stance that uTorrent ads cannot be 'turned off,' following a user revolt. They announced that users can opt-out of sponsored torrents if they don't wish to see them. Last weekend BitTorrent announced it would make uTorrent ad-enabled and that it would have a 'sponsored torrents' feature which couldn't be disabled. As one would have imagined, this didn't go over well with many users, and they let out their anger on the uTorrent forums. 'You seriously think that uTorrent is going to survive now? The Admin/Devs are seriously deluded. Pure greed has turned your once loved app into a bloated and buggy cash cow,' said one user."
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BitTorrent Tries To Appease Users By Making Torrent Ads Optional

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  • Kickstarter (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Ginger Unicorn (952287) on Thursday August 16, 2012 @05:19PM (#41016919)

    A better approach would be to set up a Kickstarter campaign outlining all the work that needs to be done and who needs to be paid for their efforts, and how much money it will take to support this for 6 months or 12 months or something. They would sail past their reqested amount long before the deadline. Vaguely similar to the humble bundle approach in a way.

    They could make a big deal out of how this approach means they avoid needing advertising sponsors.

    • A better approach would be to set up a Kickstarter campaign outlining all the work that needs to be done and who needs to be paid for their efforts, and how much money it will take to support this for 6 months or 12 months or something. They would sail past their reqested amount long before the deadline. Vaguely similar to the humble bundle approach in a way.

      They could make a big deal out of how this approach means they avoid needing advertising sponsors.

      The best bet for this kind of thing would probably be to rope in some reputable names to start a foundation and create a Kickstarter fund. Rules for a foundation can be laid on the table up-front, and potential corporate or individual investors can have a little more assurance that it's just not one guy who would take the money and run.

      The barriers you would cross don't have to do with Kickstarter not being a great resource to start a new open torrent client, but, rather, convincing people your project won

    • by brit74 (831798)

      A better approach would be to set up a Kickstarter campaign outlining all the work that needs to be done and who needs to be paid for their efforts

      I assume you mean all the creators who should be getting paid for their work, rather than get ripped off by torrents? Ohhhhhh - you mean the middle-man torrent app creator who has done jack-shit compared to all the works they're helping people steal? Yeahhhhh, those people need to be supported.

      • by mcgrew (92797) *

        I assume you mean all the creators who should be getting paid for their work, rather than get ripped off by torrents?

        Right now I'm torrenting four different Linux distros, the movie A New Pirkinning (the free Finnish Star Trek/Babylon V parody), and the book I wrote. Your fisrt mistake is assuming BT is only for piracy.

        The fact is, piracy doesn't cost the artist at all, it actually earns him money unless he's already famous. Nobody ever went broke from piracy, but many artists have starved from obscurity. S

  • by Revotron (1115029) on Thursday August 16, 2012 @05:20PM (#41016941)
    It's not like BitTorrent is a widely-known standardized protocol with a handful of existing open-source clients...

    ...Oh. Wait.
    • by TubeSteak (669689)

      Remember when AOL bought Nullsoft and released Winamp 3.0?
      This is almost exactly the same story, but BitTorrent Inc. also thought including advertising would be a good idea.

      People are passionate about the tools they interact with every day.

      • by thegarbz (1787294)

        YOU BASTARD...

        I.... I.... I....

        *curls up in the fetal position in the corner of the room sobbing*.

  • We refuse to be appeased under any circumstances. We will stand aloof and BitTorrent must grovel.
  • uTorrent 2.2.1 FTW (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Freddybear (1805256) on Thursday August 16, 2012 @05:41PM (#41017145)

    Besides the increasingly intrusive ads, uTorrent 3.x.x just sucks. It randomly consumes 100% of one cpu core and is highly unpredictable on bandwidth usage when downloading. I'm sticking with 2.2.1 until hell freezes over.

    • by cpu6502 (1960974)

      3.x seems to work fine on my laptop, and all it has is ~354 meg of RAM and a P3 processor. So does 2.2.1 support PirateBay's magnet links?
      Oh and can someone link me to the PirateBay file that holds all their magnet links?

    • by blahplusplus (757119) on Thursday August 16, 2012 @07:58PM (#41018519)

      Just for those who don't know you can find old versions of programs at...

      http://www.oldversion.com/ [oldversion.com]

    • by sqrt(2) (786011)

      Use Transmission on the Mac, or Deluge on Windows. Both are open source. A torrent client, more than other types of programs, needs to be open source for security reasons. I won't risk an entertainment industry backdoor.

  • Now looks like a good time to reflect on the options. What are the good torrent options on windows?

    Even better what are the best OSS ones?

    • Deluge, for Windows, looks to be what uTorrent used to be, but abandoned when it got bought out: lightweight and functional and nothing more.

      Seriously, the people running uTorrent are lost. The u is really = micro which is what uTorrent stood for in the face of the bloated beast of Azureus and its kin. I think the tag line was something like "a lightweight little torrent client" or something - the emphasis was low resources, and fast. Before you know it, it'll just be another Vuze.

      • by Smauler (915644)

        I've been a utorrent user since it started almost. Switched to Vuze recently, for many reasons.

    • by mirix (1649853)

      Deluge is quite nice on linux. There is a windows port, but I haven't run it... So I can't say if the experience is the same there.

    • by EdZ (755139)
      Tixati [tixati.com] seems pretty nice and lightweight, but has the various back-end gubbins (scheduling, TCP/UDP options, etc) that uTorrent has without the bloat.
  • Seriously, who torrents without using a blacklisting program like PeerBlock, anyway? Yes, I know it's not perfect, but it helps, and guess what? It can block ad servers, too! If I hadn't read about this here, they probably could have implemented the ads, and I wouldn't have known about it at all!
  • ... because I've checked repeatedly for the latest version and there are no updates (v3.1.3 build 27220), yet there are simply no 'sponsored torrents' nor any advertising of any sort to see. As far as I can tell this is vaporware and much ado about something that hasn't actually happened. Did they somehow selectively roll it out to a certain demographic group, like maybe people whose default browser is Internet Explorer or whose browser isn't configured to request do-not-track?

    Or maybe... my cranial power

    • They already have a tab called Featured Content (I think since version 3.x.x) . I always though they were planning to make it more prominent and sort of must view thing.

      • by macraig (621737)

        So is that all it is, then? I've had that tab/feature disabled in Options for so long that I'd forgotten about it. I also disabled the Apps section and even the sidebar, since it's not relevant to the way I use it.

        No matter. If they do decide to take a hard sell approach I'll find a way to mitigate it or find another app to do the job. I'm willing to pay/donate a bit for what the software does for me, but I'm not willing to tolerate blatant advertising. (Reminds me of some episodes of the past season o

    • by kamapuaa (555446)

      You have utorrent for a Mac (as do I).

      I understand utorrent for Windows has the "download from beginning" which is a pretty killer feature. On my Windows machine with BitComet (don't laught) it means I can start watching after 15 seconds instead of having to wait a whole 5-15 minutes.

      Windows version probably works for WINE, maybe I should use that instead.

      • No, I don't have uTorrent for OSX. I have it installed natively in Windows 7 x64, no VMs or bootcamps anywhere in sight. I don't know what I said that provoked that conclusion, but you concluded incorrectly. I've never even bothered trying any of the streaming features and don't know much of anything about them, other than the barest knowledge that they exist. For me they're not a killer feature; I do a real good impression of a person demonstrating infinite patience.

        • by kamapuaa (555446)

          Just google "utorrent download" instead of making posts stating that you wonder about it, and you'll see that the latest version for Windows is 3.2 http://www.utorrent.com/downloads/ [utorrent.com]

          And BTW fucking Macs, how I hate them so. Windows version of utorrent won't work with WINE. I upgraded to the newest version of WINE, and find out that my 1.5 year old Mac needs to have a not-free OS upgrade to be able to run the newer versions of WINE, an upgrade that makes my desktop more iPad like.

          • by macraig (621737)

            ... you'll see that the latest version for Windows is 3.2.

            I clearly stated that I checked for a pushed update, which the software told me didn't exist. This new version isn't being pushed to existing installs (yet). I even spent a few minutes rummaging on the uTorrent site looking for a current version number, but I didn't get to that particular download page and they're not very forthcoming about it anywhere else... so I didn't know. I even downloaded it from a different link - with no description of the version - intending to check the file properties for a

  • As long as ads are discreet (no "punch the monkey" stunts, no attention-killing animations) and don't waste too much bandwidth, I'm fine with them.
    I don't use AdBlock. I want the sites I love to be economically viable.

  • Saw this coming a mile away. I haven't upgraded my utorrent in a while and now have a real reason to not upgrade.

  • I've started using Deluge (http://deluge-torrent.org/) as an alternative. The reason I like it is because it has a very similar GUI to uTorrent and mostly the same functionality (including full .magnet support), plus they've finally got a good Windows installer that isn't too large and doesn't install as much cruft as it used to. Plus since it's open source and cross platform it means that once I give up Windows for good (given the way the platform is headed), I'll have gained enough familiarity with it tha

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