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Atheist Blogger Sentenced To 3 Years in Prison For Insulting Islam 412

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An anonymous reader writes "Egyptian blogger Alber Saber, maintainer of the Egyptian Atheists Facebook page, has been sentenced to three years in prison under Egypt's blasphemy law for posting the trailer for the anti-Muslim film Innocence of Muslims. This film was widely blamed for al-Qaeda's coordinated attacks on U.S. embassies on September 11 of this year, which were meant to pressure the U.S. for the release of Omar Abdel-Rahman, who is imprisoned in the U.S. for his role in the World Trade Center attack of 1993. Amnesty International calls the sentence an 'outrageous' assault on freedom of expression."
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Atheist Blogger Sentenced To 3 Years in Prison For Insulting Islam

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  • by rjr162 (69736)

    I watched it on YouTube... it was the biggest pos movie I've ever seen. Hell we made better home movies than that pos movie could ever be

    • Re:Really? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by SuricouRaven (1897204) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:26PM (#42266859)

      I've not seen it, but I have to approve any way. Fundamentalist Christians fighting oversensitive Muslims? Whichever one wins, enjoy the show.

      "The movie is accusing us of following a religion of violence. Such accusations are intolerable - start murdering unrelated people until the insults stop!"

      • Re:Really? (Score:5, Insightful)

        by geekoid (135745) <dadinportland@@@yahoo...com> on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @08:00PM (#42267201) Homepage Journal

        When Godzilla and Mothra fight it's Tokyo that pays the price.

    • by MightyYar (622222)

      I don't think blasphemy laws really differentiate based on production values.

  • We all knew Egypt's laws were f'ed up right?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:18PM (#42266787)

    Like "incorrectly" blamed, since we now know those attacks weren't over the YouTube video.

    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      I think that its a bit simplistic to exclude it. Some events do actually have multiple causes. The real world is complex, and rarely aligns with a fox news soundbite.

      • by baldass_newbie (136609) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:26PM (#42266865) Homepage Journal

        I think that its a bit simplistic to exclude it. Some events do actually have multiple causes. The real world is complex, and rarely aligns with a fox news soundbite.

        And it never aligns with President Obama's talking points but that doesn't change the fact that the protests had nothing to do with the video. In fact, it wasn't even the pretext for the gathering.

      • by 7-Vodka (195504)

        In this case though, what you think is worth 2 shits and an empty jello shot glass. There's been *plenty* of evidence that these attacks were planned before the video was released, based on much more compelling reasons and in some cases the people at the attacks had never heard of the video. So not to put causality aside, if event A was already set in motion before event B even happened... it's hard to blame A on B.

        If I put my tinfoil hat on, there are even people who claim the CIA were distributing anti

        • by penix1 (722987)

          So not to put causality aside, if event A was already set in motion before event B even happened... it's hard to blame A on B.

          And to finish that for you...

          But B may contribute to A making it worse....

      • by geekoid (135745)

        the event was planned prior to the video. It's stupid to think it added to that event.

    • by Trepidity (597) <delirium-slashdot AT hackish DOT org> on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:22PM (#42266827)

      What's curious is that the summary basically says as much in the same sentence: the attacks were intended to pressure the U.S. for the release of Omar Abdel-Rahman.

      • Is there any evidence for this? Al Quida may be extremeists, but they aren't entirely stupid - even they must have enough knowledge of US politics to realise that aim is entirely unrealistic. A minor leader they could maybe get, but an 9/11 attacker? Any politician who dared sign the release papers wouldn't only be out of a job, he'll be lucky to make it through the next year without an angry mob destroying his house.

  • by CanHasDIY (1672858) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:20PM (#42266803) Homepage Journal

    has been sentenced to three years in prison under Egypt's blasphemy law for posting the trailer for the anti-Muslim film Innocence of Muslims.

    There's an axiom that covers that:

    When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

    Not that I agree with being imprisoned for posting a video (much the opposite), just making an observation.

  • lucky guy (Score:2, Insightful)

    by fche (36607)

    Considering that in sharia, blasphemy (and so many other acts) can be punished with death, he got off light.

  • aren't really news. News would be that an atheist blogger was not jailed in $random_ME_country. Having said that, stories like these should come up, it's the least we can do to help - even a tiny bit - things change down there.
  • 2 points (Score:5, Interesting)

    by ganjadude (952775) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:23PM (#42266839) Homepage
    1 - the movie was incorrectly attributed to the pre planned attacks that resulted in the deaths of more than a few americans.

    2 - If anybody actually thought that the eqyptian government was going to be all good now because of the uprising clearly has not been paying attention. Id love to visit but not until there is another revolution there.
    • 2 - If anybody actually thought that the eqyptian government was going to be all good now because of the uprising clearly has not been paying attention. Id love to visit but not until there is another revolution there.

      There's a few things about Egypt you should probably know. For one thing, the poverty rate there isn't much worse there than the United States (15% versus 20%) despite the radically different size of the economy and median income ($6k versus $40k). And before you jump down my throat on "proving that", I sourced that information from the CIA World Factbook [cia.gov]. They have a significantly lower violent crime rate than here as well -- almost four times less (and yes, I can back that up too from a reliable source, T [unodc.org]

      • by geekoid (135745)

        so know illegal aliens getting arrested for blocking traffic is the same as jailing someone for posting something some peoples club considers offensive?

        your violent crime examples of homicides, not violent crime.
        Of course, rape and violence on women is rarely reported, and even less frequently documented. so you link is less facts and more half truth.

        The crime rate was low in Germany During the Nazi regime. Is that really an argument that Nazi Germans is better then the US, or any country?

        Most women and chi

      • Re:2 points (Score:4, Informative)

        by shutdown -p now (807394) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @09:04PM (#42267835) Journal

        They have a significantly lower violent crime rate than here as well -- almost four times less

        Is that why they had cops with full-size AKs on every street corner in the tourist quarter last time I visited (which was in 2005)? Or why it was strongly not advised to ever venture outside of said quarter - not that you'd want to, because the city blocks surrounding it would be most accurately described as something you'd expect to see in the aftermath of a bombing run on the city.

        Numbers are funny things, especially self-reported ones.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Saber Ayad was arrested on September 13 after angry groups of men surrounded his house and called for his death, accusing him of heresy, atheism and promoting Innocence of Muslims – a short film regarded by many to be offensive, as it portrays the Prophet Mohammad and Islam in a negative light.

    I just saw a documentry on ancient Alexandria last night with that historian hotty, Betteny Hughes [google.com], and how it and Egypt was the center of learning, knowledge, multicultural and tolerant of others.

    WTF happened to them?

    Is Egypt's backwardness really because of Islam or has the religious peanut gallery just ruined it for everyone including their fellow Muslims - kinda like how the Evangelical Christian nuts are ruining Christianity for everyone else here in the States.

    • by pwizard2 (920421) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:35PM (#42266957)
      Christians were the ones who burned the Library of Alexandria (and because of them who knows how many ancient documents were lost forever). All religion is backwards and intolerant of other points of view simply because each religion claims to have a monopoly on truth. Therefore, other ideas are "competition" and must be eradicated.

      Each religions claims to speak for God but it's always men saying "god doesn't like this" or "god wants you to do that". However, god never actually says or does anything. If god actually exists, then let it appear to everyone and speak for itself. This whole notion of "insulting" islam is actually about punishment for speaking out against the establishment.
      • by MyLongNickName (822545) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:44PM (#42267047) Journal

        You must have some inside information that no one else has. No one knows for sure who burned it down, but none of the suspects were Christian, And considering it was burnt before 0 AD, I am not sure how you would think it was.

        • by Penguinisto (415985) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @08:03PM (#42267227) Journal

          He's referencing the Carl Sagan episode on the library of Alexandria.

          Truth is, the library went down four different times... two of which had less to do with any religious motive than with foreign conquest.

          The last time it went down was, well... during the initial Muslim conquest of Egypt.

        • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

          by Anonymous Coward

          It was burned a few times, mostly from the fine Wikipedia article...

          1. Caesar accidentally burned the library down during his visit to Alexandria in 48 BC
          - lost 40,000 scrolls.
          - Mark Antony was supposed to have given Cleopatra over 200,000 scrolls for the Library long after Julius Caesar is accused of burning it.
          2. its contents were largely lost during the taking of the city by the Emperor Aurelian (270–275)
          3. Hypatia (the last librarian?) killed by Christian mob, in retaliation to Jew

        • by geekoid (135745)

          Not exactly correct.
          There were seperant plundering of the 'library of Alexandria.

          Ceasurs in 48 BC set it on fire accidentally. however it wasn't completely lost.

          They also kept copying works and keeping them at the Serapeum .
          Of all the destruction, this is the only one that wasn't done for religious purposes.

          The post was probably referring to the last destruction by Patriarch Theophilus of Alexandria in AD 391

          I know it's taught as if it was one building that burned down, but it's more complex then that.

      • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

        by Phrogman (80473)

        Its "Monotheism" that is evil specifically. It teaches people that they have the *one* truth, and that anyone else must be wrong. Polytheists are generally more accepting I find.

      • by PRMan (959735)

        If god actually exists, then let it appear to everyone and speak for itself.

        http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+1&version=NIV [biblegateway.com]

    • Hypatia was murdered by Christians in Alexandria.

    • I just saw a documentry on ancient Alexandria last night with that historian hotty, Betteny Hughes [google.com], and how it and Egypt was the center of learning, knowledge, multicultural and tolerant of others.

      WTF happened to them?

      By the standards of the Ancient and Medieval world, current day Egypt is multicultural and tolerant of others. For most of human history, "tolerant" meant that the state would not burn down the houses or places of worship of those who did not not adhere to the state religion. It also meant that non-believers were generally not killed and seldom imprisoned simply for being non-believers.

      It did not mean that non-believers were exempt from religious law. It did not mean that non-believers received the same

  • "Arab Spring" (Score:4, Insightful)

    by fustakrakich (1673220) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:32PM (#42266921) Journal

    So much for that bullshit...

  • The prescribed sentence for this is death, so I'm sure the authorities think they're being totally reasonable and lenient with this "criminal."

  • Atheist riots are coming!

  • by PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @09:36PM (#42268213)

    What about all that ancient Egyptian stuff: statues, temples, pyramids, and the like? All this idolatry is also blasphemy under Islam.

    So are they going to, like, dynamite the pyramids, like their Muslim brethren did to those Buddhas in Afghanistan?

  • Dear Muslim world: (Score:5, Insightful)

    by circletimessquare (444983) <circletimessquare@NoSpaM.gmail.com> on Thursday December 13, 2012 @12:37AM (#42269339) Homepage Journal

    Europe advances, India advances, China advances.

    You remain mired in medieval nonsense. And you will continue to remain poor, unhappy, and mired in belligerent wars, due what you emphasize as important in your societies.

    Please grow up.

    Thanks,
    the rest of the world

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