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Police Capture Second Marathon Bombing Suspect in Watertown, Mass.

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  • by jfdavis668 (1414919) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:00PM (#43500079)
    Over and over again.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:30PM (#43500271)

      Or, maybe, apply the same rules that we've deemed fair for you and me, and not stoop to the level of being torture terrorists ourselves.

    • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:30PM (#43500273)

      Typical slashdotter.. thinks exercise is punishment.

      Lift that cheeto! LIIIFT! Lock it in!

    • by Doubting Sapien (2448658) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:53PM (#43500445)
      Guess who's presecuting? I'm watching the live stream from ABCnews and who should I see muscle her way in front of the mic but Carmen Ortiz. Yep, the one of Aaron Swartz fame. God! It would be such a travesty if she should escape responsibility for bullying Aaron by riding the political prestige to be had from punishing this nut job bomber.
    • Venting (Score:5, Funny)

      by istartedi (132515) on Friday April 19, 2013 @10:11PM (#43500583) Journal

      On the one hand, we must maintain the due process of law that makes this country great. On the other hand, threads like this help us vent.

      Therefore, I suggest that we throw him in a food processor, and blow him out a vent.

      • Re:Venting (Score:5, Funny)

        by Opportunist (166417) on Friday April 19, 2013 @10:27PM (#43500707)

        Oh effin' great, typical American solution, not caring a bit about pollution!

      • Re:Venting (Score:4, Funny)

        by cplusplus (782679) on Saturday April 20, 2013 @12:54AM (#43501593) Journal
        ...but, will he blend?
  • RedSox (Score:5, Funny)

    by Gothmolly (148874) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:00PM (#43500087)

    So the Sox can still get the game in, right?

  • Woot! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:01PM (#43500101)

    Awesome! So glad that someone posted the live Boston police scanner stream. The scanner was VERY much ahead of any live news.

    • by swalve (1980968)
      @opieradio was live tweeting it, and was a good half hour ahead of the news. Even the instant kinds of things (like the cheers) were minutes behind on the "live" news. Makes me wonder just how live they really were...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:02PM (#43500103)

    A parked boat is probably not the best way to escape Boston and evade the police

  • by SternisheFan (2529412) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:07PM (#43500137)
    I read police were tracking the hijacked car through it's built-in gps, they threw flash-bang grenades into the previously searched boathouse (a woman noticed later the door was open), and the suspect surrendered, covered in blood.
  • by hsmith (818216) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:09PM (#43500147)
    The "lockdown" of Boston is a bit disturbing. But, rest assured the LAPD would have burned the boat to the ground. Boston PD seems to be a bit more professional and restrained.
  • Um... "suspect" (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:10PM (#43500153)

    Let's remember, folks, that until we see actual evidence and he's tried, that he's a *suspect.* I'm all for the consequences if he is proven to be the perpetrator, but let's not all jump on the finger-pointing-based-conviction bandwagon.

    • Re:Um... "suspect" (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Therefore I am (1284262) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:22PM (#43500227)
      Guilty or not, there is plenty of "threat" in all this for Congress to double the budget of the Department of Homeland Security...
    • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      How about this?
      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/bomb-victim-whose-legs-were-blown-off-reportedly-helped-fbi-id-suspect/?intcmp=trending

      • Re:Um... "suspect" (Score:5, Insightful)

        by Sun (104778) <shachar@shemesh.biz> on Saturday April 20, 2013 @12:51AM (#43501577) Homepage

        How about this [popehat.com], instead?

        Abstract: In the 1996 Olympic games bombing the FBI was quick to release information about a "person of interest", which several reputable news sources were quick to publish. Not only was he not the bomber, he was the one who found the bomb and helped evacuate the building. It took two years to clear his name, and an apology has never been issued. The man carried the punishment of doing a good deed to his last day.

    • Re:Um... "suspect" (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:34PM (#43500299)

      Let's remember, folks, that until we see actual evidence and he's tried, that he's a *suspect.*

      There will be all kinds of people claiming that the cops should have shot him, that he doesn't deserve any rights - what about the victim's rights, etc.

      The thing is, a trial by jury isn't really about the rights of the accused - it is about OUR right to live in a society under the rule of law rather than the rule of man. Killing this guy or even railroading him with an unfair trial won't bring back any of the dead or heal any of the wounded. But it will undermine our status as a free and just society.

    • Re:Um... "suspect" (Score:5, Insightful)

      by argStyopa (232550) on Friday April 19, 2013 @11:58PM (#43501339) Journal

      He's a 'suspect' in the Marathon bombing, but AFAIK he's pretty much red-handed involved in the killing of one cop and the shooting of another, as well as lobbing pipebombs at those trying to arrest him.

      So yeah, guilty now. Maybe more guilty later.

  • Small tidbit (Score:5, Interesting)

    by sshir (623215) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:12PM (#43500163)
    CBS reported that few years back Russians warned FBI about older brother being radicalized. So FBI asked him, he said "nope", they said "ok" and let him go. And they totally forgot about it - he wasn't on the list of suspects...

    That's "cooperation" alright...
    • Re:Small tidbit (Score:5, Insightful)

      by jamesh (87723) on Friday April 19, 2013 @10:03PM (#43500517)

      CBS reported that few years back Russians warned FBI about older brother being radicalized. So FBI asked him, he said "nope", they said "ok" and let him go. And they totally forgot about it - he wasn't on the list of suspects... That's "cooperation" alright...

      Maybe you would have been happier about 60 years ago in a time when they could lock you away because your neighbor said you might be a communist. The world was a much safer place back then with all those commies being locked away without a trial.

    • Re:Small tidbit (Score:4, Insightful)

      by game kid (805301) on Friday April 19, 2013 @10:34PM (#43500755) Homepage

      I think everyone involved did their best. The Russian gov isn't exactly trustworthy either, and without real evidence of prior harm from Tsarnaev it was Russia's word against his. Plus we would've screamed "thoughtcrime arrest!" if we heard the FBI just up and jailed the guy before he actually conspired to do things.

      In any case, the younger's last-stand spot gives "going overboard" a different meaning...

  • by perpenso (1613749) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:12PM (#43500165)
    Caught because someone noticed something strange in the backyard and called it in.

    Like many other problems, ordinary folks pitching in to help in an appropriate way can sure help to fix things.
    • by Philotomy (1635267) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:41PM (#43500345)
      Yeah. Also interesting that the boat where the suspect was hiding was outside the perimeter of the search zone where the authorities had been conducting their house-to-house searches all day, and that the tip came in within *minutes* of the "shelter in place, all you vulnerable citizens, while we protect you" order being lifted. The homeowner went outside to get some air and check his property. So thank a private business for the initial video of the suspects, and thank an "ordinary" citizen for the observation that led to the second suspect's capture.
  • Rights. And stuff. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:37PM (#43500313)

    Maybe I am not current and entirely out of line, but with all the locking-down and searching-of-houses happening: what happened to the constitutional rights re: search and seizure? Suspending them for an entire town and effectively rendering it into a war zone with suspended rights to apprehend one guy how killed two people seems a little... ah... third world?

    • Maybe I am not current and entirely out of line, but with all the locking-down and searching-of-houses happening: what happened to the constitutional rights re: search and seizure? Suspending them for an entire town and effectively rendering it into a war zone with suspended rights to apprehend one guy how killed two people seems a little... ah... third world?

      Apparently, the search wasn't all that invasive, nothing is reported seized that wasn't evidence related to the bombers, and it had basically come down to a choice between business as usual versus taking down a 2-man army loaded for bear.

      I have more indignation on the subject of personal rights than most people seem to, but there's a big difference between a manhunt for people who are armed, dangerous, and already known to have killed and an "innocent people have nothing to hide, but you look kind of shifty

  • by Nidi62 (1525137) on Friday April 19, 2013 @09:52PM (#43500443)
    Usually rats flee sinking ships. This is the first time a sinking rat fled to a ship.
  • by MillionthMonkey (240664) on Saturday April 20, 2013 @03:24AM (#43502085)
    Psychopaths like the Tsarnaev brothers, the Columbine killers, the 9/11 terrorists, the Koch brothers, etc. are either total predators like Tamerlan or Eric, with a bizarre interest in family hierarchy, a fascination with determining who is and isn't related to you, a desire for stirring religious hatred, and no altruism, empathy, or moral center to be found; they can also have only one allele like Dzhohar ("Johar", whatever), who was maybe an asshole with a superiority complex, but was also quiet about it. He was easygoing enough to form relationships with individuals in both allelic subpopulations, normal and psycho. They'll hang out with you and your other unsuspecting friends, smoke weed with you once a week just like normal Americans, etc. etc., but they'll also carry pressure cookers full of nails into dense crowds of strangers for you if they feel strongly related to you somehow.

    The uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, looks like he's carrying normal alleles at this locus. He announced to a mob of reporters that he thought his older nephew was up to no good. He said that his nephew Jahar was a loser for doing what he did, announced he should turn himself in, and ask for forgiveness from the wider population of Boston. He said the brothers "brought shame on their family and upon the entire Chechen ethnicity." It might run in his family, but I don't think the uncle is as interested in seeing people run into trouble just for not being related to him.

    Hopefully we decide not to waste another decade. This is not the time to go off fuming about how everyone in Chechnya is carrying this psychotic gene. Everybody there would be dead. Comfort with inhibiting the reproduction of people unrelated to you runs in families all around the world. It occurs in legislatures everywhere. It preserves itself by making you cause problems for people who don't have it. But it has to self-regulate in any wider human population, Chechnya or Boston or wherever, or it goes extinct along with the rest of the genome in the region.

    Hopefully we won't see this as an excuse to waste another decade with more political 9/11-style bullshit against one particular religion or another. This was in the end a story of two bungling religious-minded psychotics, with a "mastermind", a "pushover with no conscience", and a shared comfort with mass-murdering a dense unrelated-looking crowd in a city far from home.

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