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An anonymous reader writes "Microsoft appears to be sticking a finger in Google's eye with the launch of its new YouTube app for Windows Phone. The app, ReadWrite has confirmed, strips out YouTube ads when it plays back videos and allows users to easily download video by way of a prominent 'download' button."
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Microsoft YouTube App Strips Ads; Adds Download

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  • Data Scraping (Score:3, Informative)

    by RyanFenton (230700) on Friday May 10, 2013 @10:20PM (#43691787)

    Data scraping [wikipedia.org] can work, as long as you have a team that can keep up with changes to the interface and counter various approaches to block the scraping-specific requests. Somehow, I don't think this will work for the long-term on Windows Phone systems - but then again, Windows Phone itself may not last too terribly long in this incarnation either, so it may be fine for its purpose, which is to latch onto low-information customers with shallow but momentary appealing features.

    Ryan Fenton

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 10, 2013 @11:04PM (#43692089)

    Actually AdblockEdge since the creator of the original sold out to an AD COMPANY. GO OPENSOURCE FORKS GO!!

  • by UltraZelda64 (2309504) on Friday May 10, 2013 @11:10PM (#43692153)

    My standard process when installing a web browser includes:

    * Block all third-party cookies.
    * Install an ad blocker (AdBlock Plus)
    * Install a script blocker (NoScript)
    * Install a tracker blocker (DoNotTrackMe)

    No ads, nowhere, and a much faster, safer, more trouble-free browsing experience.

    This isn't cable TV in the 1990s; it's the Internet in the age of web browser extensions. What you're doing is roughly equivalent to taking a piss during a commercial break. That's old, manual technology that requires you to take physical action. Today, there are much, much better methods available that are fully automatic and require absolutely no effort on your part beyond the initial setup. You might want to upgrade your own standard practice.

  • Re:Can they? (Score:5, Informative)

    by Le Marteau (206396) on Saturday May 11, 2013 @12:22AM (#43692511) Journal

    Youtube can say whatever they want. Whether it is enforceable is another matter.

    Saving a YouTube video for later playback on your own machine (i.e. not distributing) is simply "time shifting"... time shifting has been tried time and time again in the courts and it is settled law. What legally comes to your device can be saved and played back at a later date (aka "taping" and now "downloading") and Google can TOS till the cows come home but no TOS ever written and tested in court has ever abridged the right of anyone at any time to time shift.

    In other words, download all you want. Rip it to DVDs/CDs. Play it back a million times. Put it on all your devices. There's not a goddamned thing Google, or anyone, can do to stop you... they can add stuff to their TOS from now until doomsday but it does not matter in the least.

    Re-distribution is another matter of course.

  • by smash (1351) on Saturday May 11, 2013 @02:47AM (#43693055) Homepage Journal

    Bottom left of their page, link: terms.

    Section 4b

    You agree not to alter or modify any part of the Service.

    Section 4j

    YouTube reserves the right to discontinue any aspect of the Service at any time.

    Section 5b

    Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, make available online or electronically transmit, publish, adapt, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

    I'm sure there are also other sections that could be used as justification by youtube to block MS user's access to the content without any problem at all.

  • Re:Bad blood? (Score:4, Informative)

    by kllrnohj (2626947) on Saturday May 11, 2013 @04:30AM (#43693423)

    Microsoft Tax? EAS is royalty-free, license fee-free and has a patent covenant-not-to-sue so long as it's implemented correctly. Continuing to support it would have cost Google nothing other than the man hours to keep it working. There was no "Microsoft Tax".

    lol wut? No it isn't.

    "Microsoft licenses the patents for Exchange ActiveSync please contact us for more information."
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/IPLicensing/Programs/exchangeactivesyncprotocol.aspx [microsoft.com]

    "Earlier today Google announced Google Sync, which is made possible by a patent license they obtained from Microsoft covering Google’s implementation of the Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync protocol on Google servers."
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2009/feb09/02-09statement.aspx [microsoft.com]

    Did you even bother to search before you posted that? Or did you just feel like making up crap for giggles?

  • by KZigurs (638781) on Saturday May 11, 2013 @07:50AM (#43693969)

    And? That was not the parents point. The fact that everybody and a dog are doing shitty, slow and ugly android handsets is nether news, nether surprise. In the high-end of the market Apple/Samsung seems to be about equals, in the $100 market android dominates because barely anybody else bothers with it (you can't compete with 1001 Chinese OEMs hashing out new models every week).

    Of course given that the source you cited is 'estimates' and puts Microsoft at 18% while omitting blackberry or Nokia (at low end) altogether raises some credibility questions. Quite large credibility questions.

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