The Amish Are Getting Fracked 367
An anonymous reader writes "Old school meets business school. From the New Republic: 'The Amish interpretation of the Christian bible prohibits the use of the courts: Except in rare circumstances, the Amish do not sue. This has created a unique problem in the region. Home to the largest Amish community in the world, Eastern Ohio sits squarely on top of the Utica and Marcellus Shale formations, which contain billions in oil and gas recoverable through advances in hydraulic fracturing technology, or fracking ... When it comes to the oil and gas industry, this means that any agreement an Amish farmer makes with a company is, for the farmer, practically unenforceable. A rare case in which the plaintiffs were Amish suggests that Ohio's oil and gas companies know this and have been willing to take advantage.'"
Re:lawsuit by proxy? (Score:5, Informative)
You're used to the kind of Easter/Christmas (or at most Sunday) Christians that you meet every day on the street. The Amish aren't like that. They live every day of their lives neck deep in their interpretation of the bible. They pray a dozen times a day, not because it's mandated, but just because that's what they do. They do not go out looking for loopholes to that interpretation, even something as simple as allowing bright colors on their children's clothes takes endless meetings and councils.
You have to say this, at least they are consistent in their belief system, unlike most self proclaimed religious people. And generally speaking they are happy with their lot and comfortable in their lives, but sometimes it leaves them wide open for exploitation.
Re:lawsuit by proxy? (Score:5, Informative)
That is just you not understanding.
They have no problem with electricity, the problem is being tied to the grid. Some take this so far as to only use air powered equipment. To remove any temptation for grid tie.
Re:lawsuit by proxy? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:lawsuit by proxy? (Score:2, Informative)
Neither, actually. This stems from the Ordnung (governing covenant, basically) used by the Amish, Anabaptist, Mennonites, etc. which outlines behavior and rules that each community has agreed to follow, which may (and likely is) be different from another nearby community. Many view that their communities are separate state-like entities -- thus the fact that Ordnungs differ between communities only miles apart -- and thus, must be disconnected from the larger society as a whole. If they pay for electricity, rather than generate it themselves via generator, they are connecting with a society that does not conform to their ideals of what society is or should be and thus, should not be interacted with as much as possible. If they allowed the power company to come onto their land and build power lines and poles, it would invite outside forces to their community which do not conform to Ordnung and thus, could disrupt their social mores or displace their traditional values.
It sounds weird because, to us, it is but is entirely normal for Old World Anabaptists.
Middle-Men (Score:4, Informative)
Re:lawsuit by proxy? (Score:3, Informative)
See? Religion doesn't have a monopoly on the market for close-minded, condescending, arrogant, pretentious assholes.
if you disagree with your government (Score:2, Informative)
You don't stop obeying the law, you vote in a new government and get the laws changed.
If you cannot get the laws changed to something you can live with, move somewhere else.
Re:Religion and ethics vs. money (Score:4, Informative)
A very good discussion of Adam Smith's Invisible Hand [maths.org] and how the atheists Ayn Rand and Ludwig Von Mises were subtly perverting it.