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FTC Wins Huge $7.5 Million Penalty Against "Do Not Call" List Violator 136

coondoggie writes "The Federal Trade Commission today said it has won a $7.5 million civil penalty – the largest ever — against Mortgage Investors Corporation, one of the nation's biggest refinancers of veterans' home loans for allegedly violating 'Do Not Call' requirements. According to the FTC’s complaint, Mortgage Investors Corporation called consumers on the Federal Trade Commission’s National Do Not Call Registry, failed to remove consumers from its company call list upon demand, and misstated the terms of available loan products during telemarketing calls."
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FTC Wins Huge $7.5 Million Penalty Against "Do Not Call" List Violator

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  • Very nice (Score:5, Insightful)

    by cbhacking ( 979169 ) <been_out_cruisin ... m ['hoo' in gap]> on Friday June 28, 2013 @03:09AM (#44129953) Homepage Journal

    Now, if they could just get those "This is an automated message from account services... Press one if you would like to lower your interest rates to as little as..." assholes, that would be great...

  • by An dochasac ( 591582 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @03:15AM (#44129977)
    Surely Mortgage Investors Corporation pulled in far more than $7.5 Million with this fraud. And they certainly caused more than $7.5 Million in damages to their victims and the rest society by blowing phone spam into the property bubble. What's to stop them or anyone else from doing it again? This should have been a criminal case. Prison for the CEO and board of directors would be more of a deterrent for corporate crimes.
  • by TheGratefulNet ( 143330 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @03:25AM (#44129991)

    they should have been fined 101% of their total gross income, since the start of the company.

    don't take SOME of their money. take ALL of it.

    if you don't, they still (the generic 'they') will see a profit from their bad behavior.

  • by dkf ( 304284 ) <donal.k.fellows@manchester.ac.uk> on Friday June 28, 2013 @04:10AM (#44130127) Homepage

    That works, but I agree that violating DNC should carry very heavy pernalties. If I put my number out there specificlaly to say "don't call me", then I damn well don't want to be called.

    Much as I dislike phone spammers, let's save the very heavy penalties for the fraud and misrepresentation. HOWEVER... They weren't just being annoying asses (not generally illegal, alas) and violating an agreement they'd signed up to (clearly a civil penalty thing), they were also telling lies about the details of what they were selling (assuming TFS is accurate). That's the sort of thing that sounds like it ought to be investigated on a criminal basis.

  • by Dins ( 2538550 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @05:32AM (#44130451)

    It's great to see this and all, but it would be nice if there was an easier way to catch these companies. Most block caller ID, and if they are doing it illegally they're not going to give you their contact info if they sense you are trying to bust them.

    The thing that pisses me off about the do not call list, is the fucking politicians have conveniently exempted political calls. When I say do not call me, I mean everyone - no charities, no politicians - EVERYONE. It gets nuts in the month preceding an election.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 28, 2013 @05:58AM (#44130563)

    We never want you to call, ever. You shitbags gamed the system by hiding 'please call me' boxes which were auto checked on a hidden iframe, or weaseled it into some tiny print on a statement, or some other shady business.

    I hope that you suffer some great harm. Yes, you, symbolset, I hope that you personally suffer some great harm or negative event in your life for being such a shitbag.

  • by Main Gauche ( 881147 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @07:20AM (#44130871)

    It was a settlement. No guilt was ever established. This may also explain the low dollar figure everyone else is talking about.

  • by wbr1 ( 2538558 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @08:11AM (#44131079)

    Here is the problem. We have many, many over-zealous prosecutors willing to swing an excessive charge sledgehammer at any Aaron Swarts that comes along. This is easy to do and holds little risk for them.

    However, when it comes to a corporation that has defrauded^H^H^H^H^HSTOLEN millions, who in the corporation is responsible? The CEO? An upper manager? A cabal of board members? In order to find out, the prosecutor has to do work, and run the gauntlet of that corporations legal department filing every stopping and blocking motion possible, making it less worth their time.

  • by dkleinsc ( 563838 ) on Friday June 28, 2013 @10:00AM (#44131857) Homepage

    This is a continual pattern by the US federal agencies though: When some company is caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they're routinely settling the case for a relatively small fine that just looks like a really big number but is peanuts compared to the profits from the crime. They should, of course, be nailing the company and its officers to the wall.

    And this phenomenon isn't a Democratic thing or a Republican thing - the Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations all have been routinely doing this.

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