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Okian Warrior writes "The Guardian is reporting Michael Hayden speculating that hackers and transparency groups are likely to respond with cyber-terror attacks if the United States government apprehends whistleblower Edward Snowden. Hayden called the potential attackers 'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"
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Former NSA Chief Warns Hackers Will Attack US If Snowden Is Captured

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  • by ka9dgx (72702) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:32AM (#44496449) Homepage Journal
    What do old married persons (people who haven't talked to the opposite sex in years), have to do with this?
    • by Shavano (2541114)

      They don't fit the profile of cyber attackers. Too much to lose.

      • grain of truth? (Score:4, Insightful)

        by noh8rz10 (2716597) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:04AM (#44496853)
        OK, the guy's being a DB, but you have to admit there's a grain of truth:
        nihilists: that could be one way to describe groups like lulzsec, who aren't into transparency as a cause but would rather watch the world burn for the lulz.
        anarchists: I don't see this one per se, but the govt described bradley manning as an anarchist so that's why they think that.
        activists: for sure, groups like anonymous are activists. manning too. snowden too. they are motivated by effecting change in the system.
        Lulzsec: I'm not sure to what degree Lulzsec would participate themselves based on the FBI busts, but I'm sure there would be some offshoot phoenix "rise from the ashes" that would throw their hats in the ring.
        anonymous: i think this one is a given.
        neckbeards: kind of a stereotype, not suprised he through that out.

        tldr: I think he's more right than wrong, both to expect attempts at reprisals and in describing many of the groups that will attempt it. I would add foreign nations / hostile groups (not activists, but interested in harming USA interests). It's the perfect time to attack under the guise of these other groups.
        • Re:grain of truth? (Score:5, Informative)

          by runeghost (2509522) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:17AM (#44496995)

          Certainly there's a grain of truth - anyone who values freedom is likely to be unhappy with the Fed's nascent police state, and some of them will act out violently against their corrupt and unaccountable rulers. When that starts to happen more and more frequently, it's important not to see it not as justification for repression, but as a sign of just how hated and undemocratic the U.S. government has become.

          As John F. Kennedy once said, "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

        • Re:grain of truth? (Score:5, Insightful)

          by Capt.Albatross (1301561) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:40AM (#44497301)

          The entire speech is spun from speculation: "I can sit here and imagine circumstances and scenarios, but they're nothing more than imaginative." (his words).

          Much like the Iraqi WMD thing.

        • by gl4ss (559668) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @11:13AM (#44497703) Homepage Journal

          yeah so everyone and anyone might attack USA if Snowden is captured and might attack if Snowden is not captured?

          soo? more surveillance a cure?!? what the fuck is he making this statement for "we're acting kinda like dicks so we're likely to be attacked by dicks".

          in other news AQAP has figured out a new way to terrorize american interests - all they need to do is write messages to each other that "we'll attack with 100 militants sometime next month, RIGHT?!". so the surveillance that is based on just electronics is geared up for a big fail, they can spin up an entire fantasy terrorism empire that they'll be monitoring using massive resources... just by sending skype messages to each other they can shutdown embassy activities in multiple countries for far longer than a bomb would have.

    • by Galaga88 (148206) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:53AM (#44496711)

      Wife: My husband hasn't spoken to me in years.
      Husband: I know you don't like me to interrupt you.

    • by Notabadguy (961343) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:55AM (#44496745)

      The joke is on Mr. Hayden. Calling upstairs for your mom to bring you dinner totally counts as talking to members of the opposite sex.

  • Nihilists? (Score:5, Funny)

    by Galaga88 (148206) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:32AM (#44496453)

    Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

  • Meanwhile (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:34AM (#44496467)

    This claim was made by a fossilised old fart who hasn't managed to get a rise out of his dick for thirty years and has decided to take it out on everyone else who isn't having a problem satisfying themselves and their partners sexually.

    If Hayden hadn't been spending the last 20 years trying to fuck over the entire country en-masse, he'd still be able to get a hard-on for normal sexual thoughts about individual people.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:35AM (#44496477)

    In other news: crotchety old man demands kids get off his damn lawn.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:35AM (#44496481)

    Mod Hayden -1 Troll.

    • by niftydude (1745144) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:54AM (#44496731)
      The NSA narrative has always been the same: give us more money so that we can protect you against a large unspecified threat.

      As a former NSA chief this is ingrained behavior for him, and so Hayden will keep spouting that line long after he's past the point of senility.
    • by tibit (1762298)

      Can't but agree. You'd have thought that intelligence work would require one to at least be aware of how to form a rational argument. This includes one's awareness of fallacies common in rhetorics... Well, maybe he thought an explicit use of a fallacy will somehow bolster his argument with the dumb populace. Who knows, maybe it even worked.

    • Not to mention... (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Shark (78448) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @11:12AM (#44497687)

      The most important rule of propaganda: If you can't discredit the message, discredit the messenger.

  • In other words, (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:35AM (#44496483)

    people who give a greater damn about the Constitution than the current government.

  • Slashdot (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:35AM (#44496485)

    'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'

    Well, at least that excludes Slashdot. Slashdot is filled with thirtysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in fifteen or sixteen years.

  • by Howitzer86 (964585) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:35AM (#44496487)
    US citizens are advised to flee the planet.
    • by girlintraining (1395911) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:43AM (#44496599)

      US citizens are advised to flee the planet.

      In other news, US citizens will be punished either by the government for the actions of other citizens, or by other countries' citizens for the actions of the government. However, in no way and at no time, should this reflect that the government is in any way wrong. Meanwhile, police everywhere would like to remind women that if they were raped, it must be because of how they were dressed. "Lady Liberty was asking for it! She was showing leg."

      -_- My point is that if the government is concerned that its actions may be inviting wide-spread reprisals, they ought to be asking whether or not those actions have public support. Afterall, isn't this supposed to be a democracy? When most of your citizens are saying "Dude, you fucked up," it might be time to, I don't know... hold a meeting at least?

      • by drinkypoo (153816)

        When most of your citizens are saying "Dude, you fucked up," it might be time to, I don't know... hold a meeting at least?

        They do. It's called congress. They talk about what they're going to do about those goddamned uppity plebes.

  • Kettle, pot (Score:5, Insightful)

    by qbast (1265706) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:36AM (#44496501)
    That's from guy who instead of talking to person of opposite sex would tap her phone, read her journal and search her underwear drawer?
    • by tibit (1762298)

      Well, YES! I wish a journalist would use that line in a press conference with that guy.

  • by orlanz (882574) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:36AM (#44496503)

    In this day and age, the mighty United States of America has been reduced to feeling "terror" from "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

    Wasn't that a standup joke 20 years ago?

    • by Mitreya (579078)

      the mighty United States of America has been reduced to feeling "terror" from "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

      At least twentysomethings are a lot scarier than (possible) 3oz+ bottles. Just observed two very serious TSA agents gather around a non-standard bottle with foreign lettering and discussing in detail whether it does or does not exceed the 3oz allowance. They may have been looking for a translator, as I left security.

    • twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years

      Sounds like a fitting description of 72-virgins-horny Arab terrorists, doesn't it?

    • by timeOday (582209)
      "Twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years" is an equally good over-generalization of a few groups we think of as being separate:
      • soldiers
      • radicals (including Muslim radicals)
      • basement dwellers

      Certainly the latter group is the most innocuous.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:37AM (#44496513)

    This country is terribly plagued with such a reprehrensible menace. The only solution is to mandate a free girlfriend to every twentysomething, to avoid their fall into tyranny and hackery. It will be a burden for us all, but I think we on Slashdot can manage.

    • by Shavano (2541114)
      Didn't work for Snowden. He had a girlfriend. But then again he didn't do any cyber attacks.
  • by tekrat (242117) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:37AM (#44496515) Homepage Journal

    Which are fascist, traitorous, nationalistic power-fetishists who only view the opposite sex as tools or sex toys. Power in D.C. attracts a lot of arm-candy and those people get used to that very quickly.

  • by Zontar The Mindless (9002) <plasticfish@info.gmail@com> on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:37AM (#44496517)

    I like how he lumps "activists" in together with Lulzsec and Anonymous.

    Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

    Sadly, most Americans will go right along with this.

    • by Kurast (1662819) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:44AM (#44496617)

      I like how he lumps "activists" in together with Lulzsec and Anonymous.

      Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

      Sadly, most Americans will go right along with this.

      Fox News does that already.

    • by Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:02AM (#44496825)

      > Within a couple of years, the US media will be using "activist" as a synonym for "terrorist".

      I am hoping and praying that it gets revealed that the NSA was feeding the FBI information as part of the nationwide crackdown on Occupy protesters. [theguardian.com] It's bad enough the FBI was involved but if the NSA can be proven to have directly fucked with a political movement like that, then the all pretense of defending against terrorism will be gone.

    • by X0563511 (793323)

      You honestly didn't see that coming? We lost the hacker vs cracker argument, and we'll soon lose the activist vs terrorist one too.

    • by odigity (266563) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:14AM (#44496959)

      Here in New Hampshire, home of the Free State Project (http://freestateproject.org), that's already happening. We're about to go have a protest next week in Concord against the city PD requesting what is essentially a tank. In the reasons stated on the form they filled out to apply for the DHS grant, they specifically reference "Free Staters" and "Occupy" as potential threats they're worried about -- as justification for getting a fucking TANK.

      http://freekeene.com/2013/07/29/concord-pd-requests-a-bearcat-to-deal-with-sovereign-citizens-free-staters-and-occupy-new-hampshire/

    • by HeckRuler (1369601) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:54AM (#44497491)

      Forget the old boogymen of terrorists and nihilists. Those are classic punching bags. The sort that everyone hates and everyone can get on board with hating. Don't like them? They're a terrorist! That's how it goes. Lumping activists in there is only a slight deviation from the typical script. It's effective when talking to republicans while democrats have a kinder view of the label. (Although, hell, the teapartiers have started to turn those tables)

      And forget the low-brow insult to twenty-somethings. Sure, it's uncouth and he's punching below the belt. He's specifically doing it to antagonize. He WANTS it to happen. He wants to poke that bear so he can have a raging bear to justify his bear-repellant.

      Forget all that. No, this is worse. Catch this part:

      "But certainly Mr Snowden has created quite a stir among those folks who are very committed to transparency and global transparency and the global web, kind of ungoverned and free. And I don't know that there's a logic between trying to [punish] America or American institutions for his arrest, but I hold out the possibility. I can sit here and imagine circumstances and scenarios, but they're nothing more than imaginative."

      He's specifically calling out TRANSPARENCY GROUPS. And he's kinda sorta maybe suggesting the possibility that they'll go "punish America". He can't actually tell us why that would happen but oh he's imagining it. It's like a wet dream where all of his illegal deeds throughout his life become justified and he's worshipped as a hero for stopping "those evil transparency groups". It's one where he doesn't go to sleep at night worrying that he'll be fired, tried, and thrown in prison for violating the law.

      That's what you have to focus on here. The man is in FEAR of transparency. This is a sign of a bad man.

  • Chilling effect (Score:5, Insightful)

    by SirGarlon (845873) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:39AM (#44496549)
    A government official advising against a course of action because he fears a terrorist response is proof that terrorism works.
  • Wait what?!? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Pikoro (844299) <init&init,sh> on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:40AM (#44496553) Homepage Journal

    When did hacking turn into "Cyber-terrorism"? Has the world gone stupid?

  • quote:

    "I'm just trying to illustrate that you've got a group of people out there who make demands, whose demands may not be satisfiable, may not be rational, from other points of view..."

    not sure if this refers to our rogue government (ie, the criminals in charge of the NSA and those who continue to fund it) or the ones we are being programmed to 'be afraid of'. ...gotta go: I'm almost late for my two minute's hate.

  • they are going to start hacking michael hayden.
  • by Notabadguy (961343) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:48AM (#44496661)

    How many times have you seen someone respond to IRC, forum post, thread, etc with something along the following lines:

    "The person disagreeing with me is 15 year old acne-crusted, coke-glasses-wearing, living in his mother's basement loser with no social life and blah blah blah....."

    Reading Michael Hayden feels like reading an internet troll. I don't know if he's doing it because he's dumb troll, or because he used to be one of those 15 year old acne crusted, coke-glasses-wearing, living in his mother's basement loser with no social life before getting into the NSA so he could change venue to live in a government basement.

  • ... that you don't talk about Fight Club. Then they made it into a movie. It is the American way.

  • Don't mess with the bull, young man. You'll get the horns.

    It's all fun and games until they get annoyed enough to start having people disappear. Then it's no longer a fun internet game. And the big money players won't tolerate loss of finances for long.
  • Lol, maybe government should not be doing things they are shamed afterwords. Like spying its own citizens that have done nothing wrong. All this under fear of terrorist. I wonder how long until they realize terrorist won the war. They changed how certain superpower lives its lives. So much for land of the free... I all pro information freedom. And i don't fit any of those categories.. 'Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or
  • by sl4shd0rk (755837) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:56AM (#44496747)

    This whole scare tactic on Hayden's part, especially since it was a speech at the "Bipartisan Policy Center" sounds like a grab for political support and funding to further broaden what the NSA, FBI, DEA and every other shitty acronym involved is already doing. People like Hayden are the types who create places like Gitmo, fund operations like Haliburton, and see nothing wrong with getting what they want by any means necessary. No wonder he's so scared.

  • by 6 (22657) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:56AM (#44496751)

    "who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"
    Really? Is calling people it doesn't like gay really the governments new tactic?

    • by drinkypoo (153816)

      "who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"
      Really? Is calling people it doesn't like gay really the governments new tactic?

      Actually, I read it as calling them introverts. Otaku, if you like, if we had a word for that here. Dorks, I guess, though whale dicks are huge and the hypothetical people we're discussing are social lames, not gigantic cocks. Anyway, calling people it doesn't like gay is the government's old tactic. It doesn't work any more because statistically nobody gives a shit so long as you don't poke your genitals into their face without an invitation.

  • by denmarkw00t (892627) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @09:59AM (#44496785) Homepage Journal

    twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years

    It's great to see people putting down others, I'm sure statements like that won't at all cause people who otherwise probably wouldn't have wanted to be involved in any such thing to change their minds. It's like saying "we have information suggesting an attack is imminent on US interests abroad - keep an eye out for young men who have unsightly beards, sand in their butt cracks, and a strange fascination with goats" and not expecting more people to be violent towards you than before you made the statement.

  • We are and have been attacked by "hackers". Its a very lame attempt at scare mongering.
  • by godless dave (844089) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:00AM (#44496799)
    They won't attack the US, they'll attack the US government. Completely different. These guys remind me of mafiosi who try to claim prosecutors going after the Mafia are going after all Italian-Americans.
  • IF we broke international law, kidnap/kill a citizen of another country in that other country, someone that denounced that us are breaking the human rights of basically every human of the planet, and steal their intellectual property, then could be consequences. The real, big problem, is the first move, not the consequences. Whats next? Killers that complain that judges will try to put them in jail, as if everything is judges fault?
  • by Bob9113 (14996) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:01AM (#44496813) Homepage

    "twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years.'"

    Really? "Hah hah, little nerd, you don't get any pussy!" The former NSA chief is using sophomoric name-calling to make himself feel better about having become one of the most crafty and subversive enemies our nation has ever faced. Just like high school, when the jocks would do the same to feel better about their abusive relationships with their fathers.

  • Of the types of Cyber attacks motives -- Activist led, state sponsored espionage and ones driven by criminal activity, activist is a tiny fraction compared to the other two.
    http://www.verizonenterprise.com/resources/reports/es_data-breach-investigations-report-2013_en_xg.pdf [verizonenterprise.com]
    Also of the three types, activist attacks are the least sophisticated while state espionage attacks are the most sophisticated. Its funny how activist attacks are considered as "terror" attacks.
    Yes there will be attacks because of S
  • Hayden sounds like he could use some Viagra and a hooker (or whatever he's into).

    Might take the edge off, and he could come up with a reasoned argument instead of just using the Wikipedia entry on logical fallacies as a checklist.

  • by gstoddart (321705) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:12AM (#44496941) Homepage

    "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers" Seems fitting here.

    Let's ignore that some of what he leaked was about the US more or less illegally spying on their own citizens and people in other countries. Let's ignore that not everyone feels they should be spied on by the US. Let's pretend that some of this spying wasn't getting into the unconstitutional domestically and illegal where it happened. Let's completely ignore than political asylum has been around for centuries and America has certainly granted it to Russians over the years who were equally damaging. While we're at it, let's pretend that this 'apprehending' is essentially illegal in the countries where it happens.

    Instead, let's put the focus on how a bunch of nihilists and anarchists might decide to stage a little retribution and how God himself told America they're allowed to do these things and fuck everyone else.

    Because it couldn't possibly be because people disagree with what the NSA and other agencies do, or that everyone else in the world is tired of them thinking that what everyone else's rights don't matter. There's no way that the rest of the world doesn't feel like the US has overstepped its authority in other countries. It's inconceivable that we don't think you can have Liberty if we have to give up all of our privacy in order to make you safe. People couldn't possibly be protesting because the US is rapidly becoming a surveillance state which will happily trample on people's rights while telling other countries they should be more open and free.

    Fuck you Mr. Hayden, we're not buying the misdirection to a bunch of nerds in their basement. You may not be able to understand why people are venting their displeasure, but that doesn't mean your stated reasons are the right ones.

  • Get this bullcrap off the front page. Complete nonsense.

  • by WOOFYGOOFY (1334993) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:18AM (#44497021)

    It's interesting Michael Hayden feels free to hold forth as an authority on the presumably private lives of his fellow American citizen's, specifically their sex lives.

    Does anyone seriously doubt that this is Hayden accidentally -and very publicly- accessing and referencing the very thing he denies the NSA is doing- watching, cataloging , storing (and sniggering at) the most deeply personal and intimate details of people's everyday affairs, in this case their masturbation habits and likely frequency of sexual intercourse?

    It's hard to keep clear the boundaries between what you know and can talk about and what you know and aren't supposed to talk about, isn't it Michael? It requires constant vigilance, doesn't it? You never know when you're going to let something slip.

    I am asking the president of the United States to relieve General Hayden of his responsibilities for conduct unbecoming, gross negligence in his public utterances, and failure to uphold the high standards of the US military.

  • I'm pretty sure all those groups are constantly attacking the NSA, CIA, FBI, and any other government org for the notarial and to "Fight the Power". Unless this is World Hacker Vacation month.
  • "Nihilists! Jesus. Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos."

    Wait, did I just Godwin the thread?

  • by SecurityGuy (217807) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:25AM (#44497095)

    Oh, give me a break.

    Not every attack is "terrorism". Not every crime is terrorism.

    IF this materializes, which who knows, it might, it will most likely be cyber-annoyance. You'll try to buy something on amazon and it'll be slow, so you'll do it later. Some web sites may be DDOSed off the net for a day or three. Life will go on.

  • So now the US needs Snowden for national security and to protect him from being tortured and coerced to give up secrets? Assuming if that threat is true, maybe if they had led with it instead of making him enemy number 1, this would have played out differently.

    This tactic of bait and switch seems all to common with the US. Invade Iraq because of of their involvement with 9/11. Oops once it is known by the public that they weren't involved with 9/11, change the story. Invade Irag because of WMD. Oops, once i

  • Michael Hayden (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fredrated (639554) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:49AM (#44497413) Journal

    is the kind of person that pulled the levers for the Third Reich.

  • So what? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by T.E.D. (34228) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @10:51AM (#44497439)

    Yeah, and arresting terrorists makes other terrorists mad at us too. So what? Either its the right thing to do, and we do it, or it isn't, and we don't.

    The real conversation nobody seems to be having is wether its worth the tremendous black eye we are giving ourselves by ineffecitvely chasing this guy around the world. The guy broke the law, so he should be arrested. But that doesn't mean we have to publicly rail like impotent babies every time this dweeb sneaks into another country that doesn't like us much. For generations people have fled places like Russia and China after saying or doing things there that the government doesn't like (but are perfectly legal here), and we've rightly used each as an oppertunity to lecture them about freedom and human rights. Well guess what? Telling what you know about the NSA's operations is a form of speech that is not illegal in China or Russia. So now they can smugly do the same back to us. So what does our government do? Why, they make a big public stink about it, so that the damage to our reputation when China and Russia throw our own rhetoric back at us is a large as possible. This whole situation has been so perfect for Russia and China that they might start believeing in God again.

  • by PPH (736903) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @11:15AM (#44497717)
    twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years

    .... seeing as how Snowden was dating a stripper. Indeed, I can think of no better role model.

  • by chthon (580889) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @11:24AM (#44497863) Homepage Journal

    I am married for fifteen years, and have a daughter of nine, but I sympathise with Snowden, not with the likes of NSA, CIA or FBI, or other likewise organisations.

    As a middle class engineer who has to comply with all kinds of regulations and laws and has to pay taxes, I want that the organisations which are created by the lawmakers also obey the law.

    Also, whistle blowers should be by default protected by the judiciary.

  • by doggo (34827) on Wednesday August 07, 2013 @02:49PM (#44500805) Homepage

    Lest you think I'm some young, age-ist punk, he's only a decade & a half older than me. But most people who were born before personal computers were common in peoples' homes don't understand 'net culture. Or computers, for that matter.

    I'll give General Hayden some cred, in that's he served in the Air Force, and has worked in intelligence for most of his career. So he'll have some passing acquaintance with computers. But like many people his age, and from his background, he's probably clueless about "Nihilists, anarchists, activists, Lulzsec, Anonymous, twentysomethings who haven't talked to the opposite sex in five or six years."

    The fact that he's using "Nihilists & anarchists" in the same grouping makes me think of those fogies who say things like, "on the drugs", "hippy-hop", and "all gooped up on gop". It's a spew of things they might have heard, but aren't really familiar with. All they know is it's different... and it scares them.

    I'm sure Fox News'll give him lots of air time. You know, 'cause: Boo! Scary!

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