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NSA Chief Built Star Trek Like Command Center 372

Bruce66423 writes "As the NSA scandal moves from appalling to laughable, the latest report in the Guardian indicates that the current NSA chief spent US taxpayers' money to create a command center for his intelligence operations that was styled just like Star Trek. From the PBS News Hour report: 'When he was running the Army's Intelligence and Security Command, Alexander brought many of his future allies down to Fort Belvoir for a tour of his base of operations, a facility known as the Information Dominance Center. It had been designed by a Hollywood set designer to mimic the bridge of the starship Enterprise from Star Trek, complete with chrome panels, computer stations, a huge TV monitor on the forward wall, and doors that made a 'whoosh' sound when they slid open and closed. Lawmakers and other important officials took turns sitting in a leather 'captain's chair' in the center of the room and watched as Alexander, a lover of science-fiction movies, showed off his data tools on the big screen. "Everybody wanted to sit in the chair at least once to pretend he was Jean-Luc Picard," says a retired officer in charge of VIP visit '"
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NSA Chief Built Star Trek Like Command Center

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 15, 2013 @05:51PM (#44858361)

    You seriously don't have the slightest clue how much things actually cost. The entire place probably cost a fraction of, say, one Tomahawk missile launch into Syria. They had to build the place anyway, and they needed a control center of some kind, so my guess is Star-Trekifing it probably cost less than 1% of the total budget, and that's just for construction. It costs millions to keep a place like that running. I say, either let them have their fun, or demand that they cut costs in a much bigger way, but don't complain about what amounts to pin-striping on the side of a fighter jet as though it would even make the tiniest pit of difference to the big picture.
    It doesn't, it won't, and it can't. PBS is just looking for something to whine about.

  • Video (Score:5, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 15, 2013 @06:08PM (#44858469)

    This is apparently video of it from 2007:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNUbdARitk

  • Re:That's awesome (Score:4, Informative)

    by Zero__Kelvin ( 151819 ) on Sunday September 15, 2013 @06:45PM (#44858765) Homepage
    Flaw 1: Assumption that NSA and US citizens are members of the same crew
    Flaw 2: Not recognizing that freedom is the crew, we are all the red shirts, and NSA is the enemy.
    Flaw 3: Saying we'll eventually find out, when Snowden ... the original red shirt ... has already been taken out (i.e lost his freedom)
    Flaw 4: Extending any Star Trek analogy
  • Re:That's awesome (Score:4, Informative)

    by PolygamousRanchKid ( 1290638 ) on Sunday September 15, 2013 @06:50PM (#44858795)

    Actually, the whole damn story reminds me of an old film about an American military coup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_days_in_may [wikipedia.org]

    All we need now, is a new Senator Joe McCarthy at the helm . . .

  • by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Sunday September 15, 2013 @07:12PM (#44858915) Homepage

    As it turns out, the layout of the bridge actually has a functional effect. Submarines as well borrow elements of the Enterprise layout -- our nuclear submarines, for example.

    That's a commonly held belief among Trekkies - but it's complete and utter bullshit. The control rooms of (US) nuclear submarines reached essentially their modern form in the Barbel [wikipedia.org] class, the first of which was launched in 1958. There have been some refinements over the years but even the control room of the current Virginia class is a direct descendent of Barbel's. Examining submarine control room layouts pre- and post- Star Trek shows no change that can be attributable to it's influence.

    If you can dig up a copy, Friedman's U.S. Submarines Since 1945: An Illustrated Design History dedicates a good chunk of one chapter (and several pages of diagrams) to the evolution of submarine control rooms from WWII through the early Los Angeles class.
     
    (Why yes, yes I am a former submariner and a student of their history.)

  • Re:That's awesome (Score:5, Informative)

    by BlueStrat ( 756137 ) on Sunday September 15, 2013 @08:10PM (#44859239)

    Actually, the whole damn story reminds me of an old film about an American military coup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_days_in_may [wikipedia.org] [wikipedia.org]

    All we need now, is a new Senator Joe McCarthy at the helm . . .

    2000, 2004, 2008, & 2012. Done and done. With a little Mao, Stalin, & Mussolini thrown in on both.

    In two main flavors.

    We have the (D)ick-flavored one now. We had the (R)ectum-flavored one last time.

    But don't throw away your vote. The wrong lizard might get in.

    Strat

  • Re:That's awesome (Score:5, Informative)

    by chill ( 34294 ) on Sunday September 15, 2013 @08:13PM (#44859253) Journal

    Bullshit.

    Bin Liden's falling out with Saudi Arabia was over their invitation of American troops to defend them from Iraq after the initial invasion of Kuwait. Bin Laden publicly denounced Saudi dependence on the U.S. military, arguing the two holiest shrines of Islam, Mecca and Medina, the cities in which the Prophet Mohamed received and recited Allah's message, should only be defended by Muslims. Bin Laden's criticism of the Saudi monarchy led them to try to silence him. They subsequently revoked his citizenship and he relocated to Sudan.

    He declared war on the United States in August of 1996 because after defeating the Iraqis, the U.S. left troops in The Kingdom. His fatwa was titled "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places [pbs.org]" and explicitly states that the highest prioriy is pushing the unbelievers out of the Holy Land.

    What al-Qaida really wants ranks right up there with my son wanting a pony. Neither is ever going to get remotely what they state, nor are they capable of really trying. al-Qaida knows they have to defeat the "near enemy" -- all of the autocratic rulers of the Middle East -- to form their beloved Caliphate before they can think about dealing with the "far enemy" -- the West. Notice how little progress they've made on that front. What, Iran? Anything else?

    Considering bin Laden ranked the Shia right there with Infidels and Jews, I'd say he had his hands full with formenting a Muslim civil war before getting anywhere else.

    al-Qaida's weapon on 9/11/2001 was surprise, and you know it. SOP for dealing with a hijacking was sit back and wait until it was over. That'll never happen again. al-Qaida has virtually no ability to strike the West with any force. They also have their hands full with all of the "Arab Spring" issues to even think about dealing with the "far enemy" at all.

    If the Islamists can't even hold Egypt when it was handed to them on a silver platter, their so called "demand" that the U.S. convert to Islam ranks somewhere just below them all getting ponies for Christmas.

    They can't even get Sharia implemented in places like Egypt, Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon and Jordan, much less anywhere outside their home turf.

    Reading their Christmas wish list and taking it for gospel is disingenuous. Especially when it looks like it isn't going anywhere near according to plan. Egypt shows that just because the autocrat was out doesn't mean anyone really wants the Islamists in. Just trading boots.

  • Re:That's awesome (Score:4, Informative)

    by erikkemperman ( 252014 ) on Monday September 16, 2013 @05:16AM (#44861451)

    This story is about how this general Alexander character is a powermad nutbag. Pointing over there and yelling "but, AQ" isn't changing that.

  • by boorack ( 1345877 ) on Monday September 16, 2013 @07:26AM (#44861793)
    So now we know Keith Alexander is a grandiose narcissist. This is who we are forced to give all our secrets to "for the greater good". We are spied by a bunch of psychopaths. Don't expect anything good coming ouf of it. Expect misery, blood, terror and tears - this is the only thing you can expect from psychopaths wielding so much power as Keith Alexander does.

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