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An Anonymous US Law Enforcement Officer Claims US Wouldn't Arrest Julian Assange 399

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McGruber writes "The Washington Post reports that 'Federal prosecutors have not filed a sealed indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, despite persistent rumors that a nearly three-year grand jury investigation into him and his organization had secretly led to charges, according to senior law enforcement sources. ... "Nothing has occurred so far," said one law enforcement official with knowledge of the case. "If Assange came to the U.S. today, he would not be arrested. But I can't predict what's going to happen. He might be in six months." The law enforcement official providing this assurance chose to remain anonymous.'"
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An Anonymous US Law Enforcement Officer Claims US Wouldn't Arrest Julian Assange

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  • Its A Trap! (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Tiger4 (840741) on Monday November 18, 2013 @08:42PM (#45459523)

    Sounds like a tactic to let the Justice Department be able to say, "He is not facing arrest" without lying.

    Plus they problaby have to soften up the journalist community, to get them OK with the idea that Assange is a spy and not a publisher/journalist.

  • by dkleinsc (563838) on Monday November 18, 2013 @08:43PM (#45459533) Homepage

    They might not arrest him. They might just shoot him.

  • by flyneye (84093) on Monday November 18, 2013 @08:44PM (#45459535) Homepage

    You can't believe a damn thing anyone in law enforcement says.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc [youtube.com]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE [youtube.com]
    Never could, no point in starting any time soon.
    Makes good family viewing. Especially your kids.

  • by BringsApples (3418089) on Monday November 18, 2013 @08:46PM (#45459553)
    He wouldn't be arrested, they don't have to do that in America anymore - they "detain" you.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:13PM (#45459707)

    'Will you walk into my parlour?' said the Spider to the Fly.

  • by s.petry (762400) on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:24PM (#45459771)
    He does not have to take up arms, look at what they want to charge Snowden with and what they did charge Manning with. All they have to claim is that information published helps the enemy. Last I checked, Manning dumped his information to Wikileaks who dumped it to the public. Assange will get worse than Manning in the way of sentencing, and the precedent is already set for the charges.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:51PM (#45459889)

    The brainwashing of cops is a relatively new phenomenon, within the last 3 decades or so.

    People being ignorant of history, that is not a new phenomenon.

    The policing professions have always been attractive and accessible to the worst kinds of human beings. Asshole cops have always existed.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by bhcompy (1877290) on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:53PM (#45459911)
    Can't is a strong word. Sure, they can, but legally they have tenuous grounds to hold him.
  • by asmkm22 (1902712) on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:54PM (#45459915)

    Or detain him indefinitely. Many of the people in Gitmo haven't actually been "arrested" or charged with anything.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by bhcompy (1877290) on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:54PM (#45459921)
    To iterate, what I'm saying is that we can't execute US citizens without a fair trial, yet we've done numerous times in the past few years. So "can't" just doesn't fly. "Not supposed to" is more accurate.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday November 18, 2013 @09:57PM (#45459941)

    The brainwashing of cops is a relatively new phenomenon, within the last 3 decades or so.

    People being ignorant of history, that is not a new phenomenon.

    The policing professions have always been attractive and accessible to the worst kinds of human beings. Asshole cops have always existed.

    We went from having some asshole cops and mostly good meaning cops to a situation today where most cops are bullies or worse and the few good apples are drowned in the institutional omerta' that reigns in police departments across the country. So hell fucking no, the situation today is nothing like it was 30, 40 or even 50 years ago.
    The Police abdicated their role of "peace officers" the moment they went full paramilitary on us. Today they are just as bad as the real criminals. I wouldn't talk to a police officer even if I saw a crime being commited. They might arrest me.

  • by flyneye (84093) on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:03PM (#45459969) Homepage

    My mind goes farther and farther back in time.
    When and where are you talking about? They were lying shit in the 70s and I presume the 60s from stories I hear. Beyond that the history books aren't kind either. I guess television always showed fictitious nice cops. I suppose the highway patrolmen touring the elementary school safety circuit are probably nice guys, but, those are the ones they send on tour. I'm fairly loaded with psych case histories and results of the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory battery of tests of cops over the last 30 years or so in my area. They're fairly simple, power hungry and can have some pretty major deviations and will still be hired. That's the profile you get, here and elsewhere. As long as you're no brainiac, have no record and can read and write,you can be a real nut job and still be a cop fresh out of training and believe me, the majority do. The worst of them trickle down to the podunk towns after and if they get fired from urban areas.
    Here in my area of the state, there are 3 separate cases of incarcerating officers sexually assaulting suspects this year alone. There is also a regional rash THIS YEAR of 6 cases of suspects fleeing, jumping in ponds and drowning. Not years previous, just this year.This is a two county area I'm speaking of.
    We have two officers up for murder and one, a police trainer, convicted of murdering his wife and committing arson to cover it up. There aren't even a million people here. This is only the headline stuff too. Soooo much more.
    It ain't 9-11 anymore, the polish wore off and all we have left is punks with badges all the way up to Federal levels.

  • by C0R1D4N (970153) on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:13PM (#45460023)
    Except we have not declared war.
  • by girlintraining (1395911) on Monday November 18, 2013 @10:47PM (#45460195)

    Except we have not declared war.

    Technically, we were never at war with any of the countries those people being detained are from. unless you think declaring war on abstract ideas counts.

  • Re:Its A Trap! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Monday November 18, 2013 @11:05PM (#45460267) Homepage Journal

    You are apparently a fortunate person. I know people over the age of 20 who would believe this nonsense. They'll believe anything their favorite talking head says to believe.

  • by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Monday November 18, 2013 @11:07PM (#45460277) Homepage Journal

    No, no, NO! The prisoners in Guantanamo have been denied status as POW's. That special legal fallacy of "enemy combatant" was created specifically to deny those prisoners the legal benefits of either POW's or criminals.

  • by Runaway1956 (1322357) on Monday November 18, 2013 @11:17PM (#45460329) Homepage Journal

    Oh, the ponds.

    There was a case in Oklahoma several years back. A young black man eluded police until he ran into a pond and drowned. The autopsy stated quite clearly that he drowned to death. Oddly, that drowned young man had some bullet holes in his back. I didn't view the body, so I can't swear that there were holes in his back - but I did talk to a member of his family who did view the body before it was dressed for the funeral.

    We screwed up badly when fleeing and evading the police was made into a felony. Quite naturally, a police officer is authorized to use deadly force to prevent the commission of a felony. If you've done nothing else wrong, just turning a corner to avoid being seen by a cop is reason to be shot to death.

  • Re:Its A Trap! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Shavano (2541114) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @12:28AM (#45460673)

    The quoted article doesn't SAY that, not anywhere. It's called "making shit up" otherwise known as writing Slashdot headlines, and there is no such implication in US law. Normally, an arrest happens on suspicion and an indictment follows. Sometimes, they do it the other way around but it's never the case that the police need an indictment to arrest you.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zemran (3101) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @12:44AM (#45460725) Homepage Journal

    Have you heard of a place called Guantanamo that is filled with people that are not US citizens, have never been to the US or committed crimes in the US and most were just defending their country against an invasion, as I hope you would if your country was invaded.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Zemran (3101) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @12:50AM (#45460749) Homepage Journal

    "Would you say that was unjustified?"

    Yes, because that made it murder. If they were not ready to give him a trial they should not have gone after him. You accept that he is the evil nemesis only because the people that made billions from a war, told you he was. Without that fair trial, he was an innocent man and shooting him was murder. He was unarmed when they entered his bedroom, there was no need or reason to shoot him. They should have given him a fair trial so that the world could see the man to be who they claim he was. Now it all looks like a lie.

  • by sjames (1099) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @01:34AM (#45460917) Homepage

    In other words, they are a special made up category or person that has no rights at all. I wander what other excituing new categories we'll come up with.

    Back in the world ruled by law, you are either a POW and entitled to all of the rights under the Geneva Convention OR you are a civilian entitled to all of the rights of a civilian prisoner, in this case, Constitutional rights.

    Asked if that binary bit is a 1 or a 0, you are claiming it's fish.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Smauler (915644) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @01:48AM (#45460973)

    Everyone knows he deserved to die is the anti-judicial refrain. I personally am happy he is dead, but there was no justice involved. The government killing people and imprisoning people without a fair and open trial is fucking immoral, no matter what anyone says.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Rakhar (2731433) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @02:33AM (#45461137)

    "but there was no justice involved"

    As a US veteran I actually got teary eyed when I saw the newspaper headlines after Osama was killed with the President saying that "Justice has been served". The President of the United States, calling that justice. The country we have now and the one I enlisted to defend are not the same country.

    The older I get, the harder I find it to be truly patriotic.

  • Re:Sure... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by FlyHelicopters (1540845) on Tuesday November 19, 2013 @03:00AM (#45461205)
    Most people are trained to be "patriotic" to whatever country they live in from a young age.

    We are taught the pledge of allegiance in class for just this reason.

    I don't want America to lose a war to a foreign invasion, but that doesn't mean that I should go die for her in a pointless war.

    WWII is the last war that really mattered. The rest were about money, politics, oil, etc.

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