Antarctic Climate Research Expedition Trapped In Sea Ice 209
First time accepted submitter Stinky Cheese Man writes "An Antarctic climate research expedition, led by climate researcher Chris Turney of the University of New South Wales, has become trapped in heavy ice near the coast of Antarctica. The captain has issued a distress call and three nearby icebreaker ships are on their way to the rescue. According to Turney's web site, the purpose of the expedition is 'to discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south.'"
Antarctica is Awesome... (Score:4, Insightful)
But I don't recommend getting stuck there. No. Definitely not.
Re:Mission accomplished (Score:4, Insightful)
I had not intended to imply that. Only that, if there were an unusual amount of sea ice in what amounts to the peak of summer in the south, that would be interesting data.
My point was more like "you can find interesting data even in failure". They did not get to their destination, but the reason why may yield data important to their project. Just sayin'.
Time to rename their expedition... (Score:4, Insightful)
Boy Am I tired of this.... (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Seems there's more ice than usual in the antarc (Score:5, Insightful)
The GP posted a statement of fact, relevant to the story. Doesn't sound like a denialist to me.
That sword cuts both ways buddy (Score:5, Insightful)
what it does prove is the complete intellecutual bankruptcy of the deniers
You AGW cultists are a real trip. When you say there will be less sea ice before you say there will be more [forbes.com], it means that the scientists arguing against your beliefs are the ones in intellectual bankruptcy?
Have the stones to admit you don't actually understand what you thought you did. But then, a real cultist will die before undergoing change to deeply held beliefs...
Re:Seems there's more ice than usual in the antarc (Score:5, Insightful)
Your post is unbelievable.
The GP poster posted a subject of:
Seems there's more ice than usual in the antarctic
And then they posted a LINK to a graph that proved their subject.
THIS IS ALL THEY POSTED!! No follow on sentences about global warming. No links to any other sites about global warming or to sites denying global warming for that matter.
The post stated only facts, and made no arguments. Facts that seem to be backed up by the research vessel being stuck in the ice.
YOU brought global warming into the discussion, YOU called the GP poster a denier (note: I am speaking only to evidence in the GP post, if mc6809e is a raging denier elsewhere I don't know it).
This isn't really cherry picking of data, it is only presentation of data.
If there is an increase in antarctic summer ice at the same time there is a decrease in arctic summer ice, we should study what is happening.
There really wasn't a global warming argument being made in the GP. You just saw one there. Check your glasses.