Hacker Barnaby Jack Died of Drug Overdose 195
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DrDevil writes "Barnaby Jack, the computer security expert who died mysteriously a few days before he was due to give a presentation on hacking pacemakers at last year's Black Hat, died of a drug overdose. The coroner initially withheld the report, which led to much speculation given the timing of his death. Mr. Jack appears to have taken a cocktail of drugs (PDF) and was found dead by his girlfriend. His girlfriend stated that he had used drugs regularly."
Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:4, Interesting)
and this just proves it.
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Except Rock Stars have significant portions of the mainstream public admiring them before they O.D.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Insightful)
No, hackers are just like anyone else and this proves it. People overdose all the time, they just don't make the front page of Slashdot.
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Proof? No, you have a hypothesis and a single point of data.
If only he had a hypothesis (men in black kill hacker to shut him up*) and two points of data: (A) Hacker about to give a speech, (B) hacker dies from overdose - then it would be much more compelling.
(*despite knowing that "Hacker gives talk on hacking pacemakers" = page 5 just under the skateboarding duck whereas "Hacker dies mysteriously on eve of controversial speech" is at least worth a side column on page 1.)
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just under the skateboarding duck
link please
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just under the skateboarding duck
link please
Ok: "And finally, over to Sally for a story that may seem a bit 'quackers'!"
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Interesting)
Another data point is that the investigation should not rely on the GF alone, to determine if it's a case of drug addiction. Sampling hair is not very difficult in many cases. Else I have for you a bulletproof way to kill your BF: poison him and declare he was doing drugs.
Another data point is collectible: what would cost pacemaker producers to fix the trouble once an exploit is possible and relatives of patients who die (no need for attack, they can die of malfunctions, of simply worrying about it) start to sue.
Another data point is in the making: whether his death will make the "hacking pacemakers" presentation impossible or too generic to be useful.
As the other poster said, you also have to wonder why experimenting with heavy dosage of drugs is a good idea when you have a presentation that will make you world famous is just a few days away.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:4, Insightful)
Not to mention we've had a recent kinda nasty VP that requires pacemakers and whom would have probably been a target if the info would have leaked and you have one more bullet point in the "this smells funny" column. Reminds me of that reporter whose family aid he had a phobia about blood and would pass smooth out when he saw a drop of the stuff supposedly slit his wrists to kill himself.
Frankly it should be so trivial to tell if he was a druggie, the stuff ends up in the hair, nails, hell with heavy users they practically sweat drugs so finding out shouldn't take any time at all...wanna bet nobody runs anymore tests? After all we have learned from Manning and Snowden the past couple of years frankly I trust the mob more than I trust my own government so call me paranoid but I'd like a second opinion please.
Re: Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:2)
I doubt you'd believe the report, so what's the point? If "they" can have someone killed, they can fake an autopsy report.
If our government is efficient enough to even carry out a tenth of these conspiracy theories, we're fucked. I've seen them in action, though, and I think we're okay.
Re: Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Interesting)
Barnaby would routinely party until 5am then deliver the first talk in the morning. And deliver the talk well. His research was good, but then again so was the research of others who weren't nearly as much fun. Conference organizers aren't robots.
His hard partying ways were well known in the security community. Reading all of this conspiratorial talk reminds me how foolish we can be when we talk about people we've never even met.
Does anyone seriously expect a bunch of other well known hackers to admit in public that they routinely binged on drink and hard drugs with Barnaby? Merely to put to rest wild speculation by some randoms who didn't even know him and will likely continue to believe whatever they want to believe?
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> and will likely continue to believe whatever they want to believe?
Yep I tend not to change idea, especially when people use tricks (this one is called "poisoning the well") in their rebuttal.
So the guy liked to party? Interesting. So he might have ODed in many occasions. It happened shortly before his most potentially influential presentation. What did your data point bring? Oh yes the GF point is moot now. He still fucked with the dosage at a very wrong moment. All of this is irrelevant 'till the pre
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I'm not debating you. You may think you're the voice of reason here, but you really don't know anything about the situation, and I don't care what you think.
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Always know your dose.
No one is going to keep track of it for you.
If you want to live to be a ripe old junkie like Wm. Burroughs, you learn to keep care of yourself.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:4, Insightful)
He combined heroin with Xanax and an antihistamine. That is a pretty reckless combination. Sure, it's possible that the heroin was uncharacteristically pure.
Nevertheless, if you combine three depressant drugs (two of them quite strong), you're always risking an overdose. You can't really blame this one on prohibition.
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If this was an OD due to illegal drugs, then it's likely that it wouldn't have occurred if the drugs were simply legal.
What a bunch of crackpot nonsense.
I guess Micheal Jackson would have been alive if just propofol would be legal?? [wikipedia.org]
Prescriptions now biggest cause of fatal drug overdoses
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-09-30-drug-overdose_N.htm [usatoday.com]
Simply the reason that something is NOT illegal, does not make it safe. How many people die of alcohol overdose each year? Too lazy to find out? Let me help you.
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh27-1/110-120.htm [nih.gov]
he annual average number of deaths for which alcohol poisoning was listed as an underlying cause was 317, with an age-adjusted death rate of 0.11 per 100,000 population. An average of 1,076 additional deaths included alcohol poisoning as a contributing cause, bringing the total number of deaths with any mention of alcohol poisoning to 1,393 per year (0.49 per 100,000 population). Males accounted for more than 80 percent of these deaths.
If only alcohol was a legal drug, right?? Right?
There are many reasons for legalizing illegal drugs (most
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Informative)
You're missing the point. As you pointed out, legality and known purity is not going to prevent all overdoses, but it would prevent some.
If you're buying drugs on the street, it's difficult to tell exactly how pure. This means that by taking the same mass of a particular drug, you're not going to get precisely the same amount of active ingredient. If your latest dose is sufficiently purer than your typical dose, then you may overdose.
What complicates this is that many addicts will go off of their drug of choice for a period of time and lose their tolerance. When they start using again, their bodies can't handle as much but they try to use their old dose and overdose.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:4, Informative)
While all of this is true to an extent, the bigger problem is mix and match. There is very little real data on the effects of mixing multiple classes of drugs other than to tell the user 'it's dangerous, don't do it'. Most ODs are from either naive users, as you point out, or users who get drunk (typically), then add a slurry of other drugs, then go somewhere dark to pass out and then just quit breathing.
Most ODs would be thwarted by having the presumptive victim in the same room as other people who have managed to keep enough of their brainstem function so as to remain breathing spontaneously. Calling 911 or just kicking the victim in the groin is pretty easy, even for the lay person.
(Channel to the OD scene in 'Pulp Fiction'... )
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Insightful)
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Which is exactly why cheap easy access tends to solve it own problem, evolution in action. They die happy and peaceful (except of course alcohol) and we don't suffer from drug related crimes or pay the extreme cost of imprisonment in order to destroy their lives to save them from 'er' dying happy.
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If this was an OD due to illegal drugs, then it's likely that it wouldn't have occurred if the drugs were simply legal. You cannot "know your dose" with illegal drugs because you: 1. don't know what drug it really is at all; 2. don't know the concentration or purity. The best way to reduce ODs would be to legalize everything, then all the info on how to dose and minimize adverse health consequences could be kept out in the open.
The thing with speed balls (cocaine plus heroin) is to maximize the rush while minimizing the side effects. This is a never ending race to OD. Many heroin users have died due to unknowingly using uncut drugs, Janice Joplin, etc. But speed balls are another beast all together.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Informative)
I am surprised this got modded insightful. Nothing against the parent but knowing your dose wouldn't help in cases like this. It was an OD from a cocktail of heroin, cocaine, Diphenhydramine (aka Benadryl) and Alprazolam (aka Xanax). Even if they were legal, no sane doctor would ever advise taking all four together. This was nothing more than death from reckless drug use. You could legalize everything, provide safe usage guidelines and people would still die like this. Its the same as speeding, losing control of your car and dying in a car crash caused by your own recklessness. you knew the limit, you were taught to follow it but you ignored it.
Basically the worst thing you can do is mix this stuff together. They do it to have one drug counteract the other eg. coke is a stimulant and heroine is a depressant. The two are combined to get the extreme euphoria of heroin but having the coke combat the sedation (most heroin users shoot up and pass out). Those two used together is called a speedball [wikipedia.org] and has killed quite a few famous people, and many more regular users.
Why he also chose to throw benadryl and Xanax on top of that deadly mix is beyond me.
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Did a little searching and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_(drug) [wikipedia.org]
Either he was taking it legitimately for allergies or was trying to make it do something else.
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1 .have a good idea of what you have. Experience helps.
2. purity will ALWAYS be diluted by every hand it passes through. If you go to a higher source, expect more purity.
Yes, legalizing everything would work nicely.
Those without a predisposition to indulge, don't.
Laws protect no one but legislators.
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Always know your dose.
Other words of wisdom from Ron White: "Never let a mormon set your buzz level."
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But you're believing the story. It might be true. I'm not sure I want to be any more definite than that. Without knowing the person, I don't know whether it is plausible or not. I don't know whether the "girlfriend" actually was such, and I don't know if someone was out to get him.
A few years ago I would have accepted this story without much question. These days there are so many proven lies told as official stories, that I don't even believe when they say something plausible. I think you've got to le
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Yes, what fun it would be to attempt an overdose on marijuana.
Some would say eating 15 lbs in a few minutes would do it, but the real troopers keep trying to smoke their way to suicide.
No success stories yet, gotta keep hammering on it.
Dont bogart that joint, my friend , pass it over to meeeeee....
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I've been trying unsucessfully for over four decades, was 19 then. I'll surely succeed in the next 40 years. 2049 news item: "mcgrew, age 97, was found dead today of an apparent marijuana overdose..."
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I keep hammering away too. Apparently, stronger strains and large volumes aren't going to do the trick.
I was actually thinking the Bibles recipe for anointing oil might do the trick if I were to soak in a bathtub of it.
6 lb. and sundry ingredients makes a liter concentrated in olive oil.
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Buddy, if that's a dark concept, you need to move a planet closer to the sun.
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Fear of pot makes you stupid.
Re:Hackers are the new Rock Stars (Score:5, Informative)
I've yet to see any proof that wasn't just heresay from those with a profit to protect.
Come, bring your evidence.
If you bring a researcher, bring his benefactor as well. You will see patterns form.
Marijuana is harmful to profits, THAT is the ONLY harm there EVER was from the use of marijuana.
Even smoking has produced no cancers. No deaths. Not even hangnails.
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Even smoking has produced no cancers. No deaths. Not even hangnails.
you're telling me that there are no chronic risks to inhaling lungfuls of smoke and burning plant matter? I call bull spit.
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I've seen no chronic risks.Have you? Especially if you cook with it. Preferably you should cook with it.
I did ask you for citation , rehmat saliva doesn't work.
Likely it is CBD or CBN which are credited as cures for cancer, diabetes and just about everything else, that keeps you from having much more than a sore throat.
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In general, inhaling smoke carries acute and chronic risks. I assume MJ is no different
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Personally, I've been smoking CHRONICALLY (2+ oz. per mo.) for over 35 years now.
My last doctor visit a few months ago, to a new doctor, popped up the question" you have a little congestion, do you smoke"?
To which I replied. I've been having allergies, but, I have smoked pot for 35 years, no cigarettes since I was a teen.
He nearly crawled on top of me to get his light down my throat, then stethoscoped me , front and rear and said "WOW, you are in GREAT SHAPE, even for your age!
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maybe you shouldn't smoke that much pot? there are other things in life you know.
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I live a full life. Is there something to suggest that I dont?
Im not a TV/Movie character in some Cheech and Chong fantasy any more than people here resemble TV/Movie nerds and geeks and their lives.
I seem to have more on the ball than most, work a job AND a career, care for a family,raise an orchard and vineyard and a host of other things that insure my time is at a premium. Marijuana has worked like Ritalin for me since I was a teen. WIthout it , my life would not be possible or probable.
You keep your fil
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Rollin down the street smokin endo drinkin gin and juice, laid back.
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Okay I'm not really on either side of the fence on this one, I don't smoke marijuana but nor do I give the slightest toss if anyone else does, it's upto them. Therefore, I really don't have a horse in this race at all.
But your post... it stinks of hypocrisy. Your argument is that the other guy hasn't provided any evidence, yet you throw out some wild conspiracy theory as to how it's about the profits? What profits? whose profits? are you referring to the tobacco industry or something? why wouldn't they bene
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Oh it is not conspiracy theory, it is a widely discussed matter. From the beginning marijuana was made illegal due to big business. You see, the Hearsts (newspaper moguls) owned forests and paper mills. Hemp makes that nice paper you find in old books whose pages havent rotted like a newspaper. Obviously Hearst did more than print papers, he sold paper. He also funded all or at least most of those campy anti-marijuana movies from the period, like Reefer Madness and bought the legislation that made marijuana
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"Marijuana was also widely used as an ingredient in loads of medicines. This dissappeared with its legality. Today, since marijuana cannot be copyrighted, it is pretty useless to the pharmaceutical makers, who couldnt profit from it or make protected intellectual property from it."
This makes zero sense. The same is true of carrots, tobacco, water, and many other things, yet companies still make a profit off of these things because there is money in producing a brand surrounding the product. All your comment
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What can I say? If you dont believe me, go to one of the marijuana news sites for the latest in whats happening.
None of what I say is any secret or even considered theory by anyone, I suppose, but you.
Many companies profit from marijuana. From head shops to marijuana shops in CO, for example. That wasnt what I said.
I said the PHARMACEUTICAL companies cannot profit from it due to their inability to make intellectual profit from it, therefore it becomes a COMPETITIVE market. Pharmaceuticals vs. Marijuana. Sor
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oops Intellectual property not intellectual profit.
Lol got my mind on my money and my money on my mind.
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It seems all you can do is coming up with more nonsense and no evidence.
But what else can I expect? You're suggesting marijuana news sites are an objective source of information. Do you really not see that's like saying Sarah Palin's blog is the best source for objective news about the democrats? you really don't realise how stupid that sounds?
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Its no such thing.
You were asked for citation to begin with.
If you can t provide it, youve no challenge to my declaration.
Do you know how stupid you sound?
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If ever there was a poster child for "Marijuana does no harm" then you're not it, you claim to smoke loads and then you come here spouting nonsense conspiracy theories whilst being unable follow the conversation, you're an example of someone whose mind is clearly completely messed up so how can you then say "Hey look at me, weed causes no problems!" when you're clearly mentally deficient?
It wasn't me that needed to provide a citation, I'm not the original guy you demanded a citation from, I'm someone who sa
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And some people are allergic to peanuts too.
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Might as well roll one up.
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Some call it hashish.
But if you isolated ONLY THC, then it really ISNT marijuana at that point.
Hops in your beer has THC as well.
Moot point, sorry.
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mmmm, not exactly.
Heroin is a synthetic produced from the poppy.
Hashish is the dried tricomes that grow on the flower and flower leaves of marijuana. The frosty part.
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http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/01/active-ingredient-in-pot-sets-off-a-feedback-that-reduces-intoxication/ [arstechnica.com]
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I had actually heard that elevated CBD (highest in vegetative marijuana, as opposed to blooming marijuana, and medically useful at that) can increase your tolerance to THC.
Yes, it is interesting to me, thank you.
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I also just saw, there is a shortage already and there are caps on amounts you can purchase.
I expect the police will have just about as much luck protecting their borders as the states along Mexico.
I still wouldnt reccomend leaving with any. Why do you think they call it a vacation? Colorado is going to be the NEW Amsterdam. No passport needed.(given you are from the states)
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NOOOO!!!! it was conspiracy theorists , you have to have a fresh conspiracy at new year!
but everybody knows that conspiracy theorists are all agents of the Black Helicopter Brigade paid to create plausible deniability for the real conspiracies.
You mean it wasn't a conspiracy ? (Score:5, Insightful)
Slashdot is really letting itself go, when posts describing the mundane reality take precedence over a good conspiracy story.
Or could it be that the coroner was bought by the peacemaker manufacturing lobby to give that statement? Hmm...
Re:You mean it wasn't a conspiracy ? (Score:4, Insightful)
It's easy to get away with murdering a drug user. Even if the guy's a speed freak and he dies of a barbiturate overdose, it's automatically an accident.
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This is another good argument for not using drugs like heroine and coke which you can OD on. I forget the exact quote, but it goes something like "The L.D.50 of cannabis is a 5kg brick thrown from the 7th floor of a high rise".
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And why is being hit in the head by a brick a better way to die?
Re:You mean it wasn't a conspiracy ? (Score:5, Interesting)
Or could it be that the coroner was bought by the peacemaker manufacturing lobby to give that statement?
It was heroin. Someone else could have injected it.
Occam's Razor (Score:3)
It was heroin. Someone else could have injected it.
It was a drug cocktail.
Evidence of long-tern drug and alcohol abuse isn't likely to escape the notice of a competent pathologist.
The autopsy report has now been made available and says Mr Jack had shown "no visible or palpable evidence of trauma".
Instead, his physical symptoms indicated an accidental overdose of heroin, cocaine, and prescription drugs.
The report said Mr Jack's girlfriend had found him lying in bed unresponsive, with "multiple bottles of beer and champagne in the garbage can".
Elite Hacker Barnaby Jack 'overdosed on drugs' [bbc.co.uk]
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The report said Mr Jack's girlfriend had found him lying in bed unresponsive, with "multiple bottles of beer and champagne in the garbage can".
There. That's it. The smoking gun. No self respecting whacked out druggy is going to put the bottles in the trash can. He'd recycle them.
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Or could it be that the coroner was bought by the peacemaker manufacturing lobby to give that statement?
It was heroin. Someone else could have injected it.
It's possible, lots of things are possible. Where's the evidence that it happened?
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Bad things (Score:2, Interesting)
These medications are bad for you, people die once in while, were going to sue and try to ban them. This seems to get just about everyone's approval. However these other medications that were made in a garage or jungle or other unsanitary conditions and routinely kill untold numbers of people but just happen to get people high. Let's legalize them!
If an alien species were to look and observe these types of things they would mark "do not contact" after determining the human race was crazy as hell.
Re:Bad things (Score:5, Insightful)
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Actually medications are very rarely banned - what usually happens is doctors just stick to prescribing the safer drugs unless they prove ineffective, in which case they switch to the riskier ones. You know, that whole "Do no harm" oath they take.
As for the recreational stuff - the point of legalization is not necessarily to voice approval, its an acknowledgement that prohibition doesn't actually work and never has, no matter how draconian the punishments (remember that story about a couple people in a garden and an apple? Or maybe the one about Al Capone?). And that most of the evils associated with the drug trade are due to it's illegal nature, not the drug itself. Since it can't be stopped we may as well legalize it so we can deprive the really horrible, violent people who control the black market of the massive revenue stream that provides most of their funding. Not to mention bringing production into a safer more regulated environment and stopping the militarization of the police force and the erosion of civil liberties. And of course improving the security of the borders - do you really thing a foreign terrorist would try to smuggle his dirty bomb through customs when he can just buy a ticket on a well-established drug run instead? Oh, and reducing human trafficking - slavery is more profitable when you can piggyback on established drug routes instead of having to do everything yourself.
Besides which, the only recreational drug currently getting any traction towards legalization in the US is marijuana, which is far safer than alcohol by any measure you care to name. And most of the really nasty synthetic stuff was explicitly created as a cheaper or legal alternative to something illegal. If you could buy medical grade cocaine at the corner store with only the usual commercial markup, how many people do you suppose would choose black-market heroin instead?
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Actually medications are very rarely banned - what usually happens is doctors just stick to prescribing the safer drugs unless they prove ineffective, in which case they switch to the riskier ones. You know, that whole "Do no harm" oath they take.
You must be seeing different doctors that I do. It seems like a lot of doctors these days prescribe whichever new drug the pharmaceutical rep is pushing this month. Even more so if the pharmaceutical company is providing a multi-day "informational" or "familiarization" conference that happens to be on a cruise ship in the Caribbean.
Drug prescriptions ... (Score:2)
Yep.... I remember a while back, taking my kid to see the psychologist the school recommended, after a lot of prodding that she needed to see someone about her apparent ADHD. (While not a big fan of all the use of drugs for this, I relented because I'm divorced, with pretty much full custody of my kid. Today's combination of public schools and child services means they can quickly make things get ugly for you if you say no to their repeated suggestions.)
Anyway, the doctor looked over some of the notes th
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general practitioners are not super smart people. they had to be, once, to pass their exams, but they quickly forget most of their training and now just hawk the pharma products they were told to.
I once had a really bad medical condition that lasted for several months. I was on short-term disab due to this and I kept going to the doctor to find out what was wrong. their approach? try this antibiotic for a few weeks and come back. we'll see how it worked. if that didn't do it, we'll try this one. and
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His answer? "Oh, there are a number of options out there, but I just like this one because it's the one I'm most familiar with." (A quick survey of his office revealed several promotional items around from guess which drug company? Yep....)
I mean, come on.... if you're in this field, shouldn't you be "familiar with" pretty much ALL of the drugs for something as common as ADHD?
Put yourself in their shoes by replacing "drugs" with Operating System and problem with "Viruses." Do slashdot pros know *all* the choices for something as "common" as an OS choice?
Just like slashdot pros can choose to be offering/installing their favorite OS (Windows, Linux favors or Macs), in the end, the doctor is doing what they know. That's better than EXPERIMENTING on your child as step 1. If step 1 fails, then they begin unpacking the lesser known alternatives and outliers. Or you can get a second op
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If you could buy medical grade cocaine at the corner store with only the usual commercial markup, how many people do you suppose would choose black-market heroin instead?
I'm curious, since I like your comment generally- was this a 'typo' or did you really mean this. If so, please explain your reasoning. I.e. one is a stimulant, the other a depressant.
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Hmm, I could have sworn... wiki...,wiki...,wiki...
Oops, good catch. It was opiates that heroin was created to replace. It's amphetamines that were created to replace cocaine.
Re:Bad things (Score:5, Funny)
Illegal narcotics are made in garages and jungles in unregulated conditions BECAUSE they can't be made legally. One of the main reasons they cause so much harm to people is BECAUSE of these poor manufacturing conditions and how they're cut. We should legalize them simply to allow us to create and distribute them in a safer manner that we can regulate and monitor.
Besides, people die many times more from prescription drug abuse than illegal drug abuse.
And alien races likely avoid us because of or proclivity for violence over diplomacy, greed over innovation, and utter lack of common sense. If anything, legalizing narcotics and spending the money treating addicts instead of just tossing them in jail would make it MORE likely that aliens would see us as sensible motherfuckers and contact us.
So... let's legalize drugs so we can meet some hot green Orion women already!
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Again, what we need to look for and provide help for i
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You do realize that Limbaugh lied his ass off to get the drugs. He received them from multiple physicians in several states. It is unclear how carefully the various doctors screened Limbaugh for misuse and I will bet that a majority of them didn't do due diligence, but the 'patient' has more than a little complicity here.
Drug abusers (including alcoholics, who are famous for this) lie all of the time. When we do urine drug screens on patients we see all sorts of interesting results. "No, doc, never to
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The legalizing it trend is about far more than marijuana and it always has been. Don't fool yourself.
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We see through your bullshit.
If James Bond had died this way (Score:5, Funny)
From the Top Secret coroner's report on 007's death:
Witnesses report that the decedent ingested a cocktail of drugs just prior to death. When they tried to revive him, he was shaken, but not stirred.
"Just sprinkle some crack on him..." (Score:2)
British sevret service style. (Score:2)
Should have gone MI5 style. He died of a drug overdose. The 45 calibre hole in his head was from the needle. The doors and windows were smashed inwards in a suspected altercation with his dealer.
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The 45 calibre hole in his head was from the needle.
Reminded me of this... [youtube.com]
Don't do drugs, kids! (Score:5, Funny)
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"Drugs are bad, mmkay?"
Let's come to a moderate conclusion. (Score:2)
If we can, let's put this death into the form of a something like a "Dead Schroedinger's Cat" and put it in a box for the time being.
You don't know for sure why this dead cat is dead, because you don't know enough about it, so you, being no sort of authority on the hidden and ever-changing features of the sub rosa, cannot make well-founded claims as to the causes behind this guy's death.
The "cat" is either dead from a legitimate overdose, or the "cat" is dead from being administered a bad cocktail by some a
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Does it matter if the guy was chasing his personal dragon and fucked up, or whether somebody showed up at his place and interrogated and killed him with his own drugs and some stuff found in the medicine cabinet?
Yes, as a matter of fact it does. You see, if you overdose yourself, then the overdoser is dead. However, if someone else did it, then they're still out there, ready to overdose someone again. As a scientist I need no False Schroedinger "cat" Dichotomy. I can attribute percentages of likelihoods as to the cause beyond all or nothing. Right now I'm leaning towards a conclusion of self overdose rather than foul play, but I don't eliminate the latter possibility. Using this mental model I can make inform
No surprise. (Score:2)
Drugs can be great fun if used wisely. Why would he not indulge?
Some drugs are often fatal (booze and nicotine especially), and others can be if one gets silly. Not everyone is Keith Richards so some folks croak. No big deal and not a surprise.
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Don't forget that they paid off his girlfriend to say he was a drug user.
This smells to high heaven like a conspiracy.
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The guy was a known hardcore junky, some of the live cam crap he posted on zoklet "totse replacement" was crazy, everyone told him he was gonna be a "Brandon Vedas" aka "Ripper" who od'd in irc and on webcam
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Hacked into CIA? He worked under DoD Darpa contracts. Whole L0pht does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tPPD0MRX7I [youtube.com]
"hackers" are now feds.
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...well of course...the CIA hired the Illuminati to do it, with the Tri-lateral commission's blessing.
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I am unsure why Heroin is in the mix. He didnt seem to use Heroin. More weird stuff:
The report says there were abrasion on the cheeks, and contusions in the fingers. There was an "electrocardiographic monitoring electrode on the left chest".
Conspiracy theorist have a lot of ammo here.
The EKG lead is easy. EMS is going to put one on you to see if you have any sort of heart rhythm.
I guess you conspiracy guys are going to have a field day with the contusions and abrasions. However, you might want to try being dragged about in a body bag before you publish everything.
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It is not out of the realm of possibility that a motivated party found his vuln (recreational drugs) and hacked them (increase purity) to obtain a fatal result. Don't expect to see a presentation on it, though.
It is also not out of the realm of possibility that an alien probe caused a fatal heart dysrythmia. It's just not remotely probable.