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Dorian Nakamoto Officially Denies That He Created Bitcoin 102
sumoinsanity writes "A succinct and comprehensive rebuttal has been distributed from this Mr Nakamoto about being the founder of Bitcoin. His statement reads in part: 'The first time I heard the term "bitcoin" was from my son in mid-February 2014. After being contacted by a reporter, my son called me and used the word, which I had never before heard. Shortly thereafter, the reporter confronted me at my home. I called the police. I never consented to speak with the reporter. In an ensuing discussion with the reporter from the Associated Press, I called the technology "bitcom." I was still unfamiliar with the term.' Newsweek copped a lot of criticism regarding their original expose on the purported uncovering of a BitCoin founder following their two month investigation. They defended with, 'Ms. Goodman's research was conducted under the same high editorial and ethical standards that have guided Newsweek for more than 80 years. Newsweek stands strongly behind Ms. Goodman and her article.'"
Quick (Score:1)
Let's create NakamotoCoin, pump it, dump it and kill it!
Re:Quick (Score:4, Funny)
You are the WORST first date ever. Just so you know.
Evidence? (Score:5, Insightful)
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It's like a newspaper deciding that, in order to help readers understand the operations of the American government, they are going to entirely ignore all contemporary politicians and political happenings in order to write: "The Mysterious Writer Behind 'Common Sense [wikipedia.org]' Unmasked!".
The fact that they appear to be harassing a sick, troubled, old man for cheap pageviews is just ghoulish; but the very premise they started from is shitty journalism: "Well, we don't know anything about cryptography, and our readers wouldn't know a prime number from a subprime number, so we'll ignore that, and the (moderately high stakes, at times) contemporary wheeling and dealing in the exchange and mining arenas is all complex and stuff, so let's just unmask the mysterious mystery man, and maybe do some tepid armchair psychology about what made him act... Everybody loves that shit, and it requires no special skills, knowledge, or attention span, so it should move eyeballs."
OH GOSH & BEGORRA! ALWAYS AFTER MY LUCKY CHARM (Score:4, Funny)
Of course, the tradition has it he'll trick you and the gold will turn to worthless bitcoins after you've let him go.
sneaky Japanese leprechauns!
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Of course, there is also the chance "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a pseudonym, but that raises the question why someone who wishes to remain anonymous would choose such a distinctive name.
But not the question why someone who wished to remain anonymous would chose his own name.
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Prefaced by this gem:
Of course, there is also the chance "Satoshi Nakamoto" is a pseudonym, but that raises the question why someone who wishes to remain anonymous would choose such a distinctive name.
But not the question why someone who wished to remain anonymous would chose his own name.
Exactly! Not even a moron would use their own name to conceal their identity.
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Isn't this based on a rather simple assumption that his desire to be the anonymous inventor started before he published the paper on it. What if, he or she had written the paper and begun work under their own name, and later regretted it and decided it would be best to not actually be in the spot light?
I mean no idiot would use their real name as a cover, however, if his real name is already out there, pretending it is a cover and not disabusing people who say its a cover from their claims, might serve to c
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Isn't this based on a rather simple assumption that his desire to be the anonymous inventor started before he published the paper on it. What if, he or she had written the paper and begun work under their own name, and later regretted it and decided it would be best to not actually be in the spot light?
A fair point, but the name he goes by isn't Satoshi; it's Dorian. So, if he were starting work and not thinking about anonymity, presumably the work would have been published under Dorian Nakamoto. Instead, then, we have to postulate this weird set of events where he began work, but decided to use a name other than the one he uses everyday (presumably to hide himself a little bit), but which still can be traced back to him laughably easily.
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I think Rusty Shackleford could get away with it.
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That's just what he wants you to think.
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And yet, the Newsweek "journalist" thought "Oh my god, this guy's name matches the pseudonym, it must be him!"
How dense do you have to be!?! I'd like to give her one of those "how to occupy a blonde" birthday cards that tell you to flip it over and over...
Re:Evidence? (Score:4, Funny)
As I recall, Ms. Goodman had no real research beyond the facts that the name was similar and he happened to do some security work under contract.
So? That does not conflict with Newsweek's claim that "Ms. Goodman's research was conducted under the same high editorial and ethical standards that have guided Newsweek for more than 80 years." Well, except for the "high" part.
Re:Evidence? (Score:4, Funny)
Not that kind of high.
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Newsweek wins an internet! They are the first (as far as I know) to damn themselves with faint praise.
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First, as someone else mentioned, requires the use of certain smoked, injected, or ingested materials of an often illegal yet popular variety.
The second, it's relative to what you compare it to, such as the National Enquirer, which has been around longer than 80 years.
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The second, it's relative to what you compare it to, such as the National Enquirer, which has been around longer than 80 years.
That is tarnishing the good name of the National Enquirer for any such comparison to be made.
The proper comparison is to Pravda or The Pyongyang Times and the excellent journalistic integrity of those publications.
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As I recall, Ms. Goodman had no real research beyond the facts that the name was similar and he happened to do some security work under contract.
She stalked this guy, and turn his life upside down or certainly brought him a lot of attention he didn't ask for. Hell Ms. Goodman and Mr. Nakamoto are now joined at the hip be it on /. or Wikipedia.org
Ms. Goodman is at the height of her incompetence, and Newsweek ain't exactly impressing me either.
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He's 64 and hasn't had a job in 10 years, so I doubt he's going to a lot of job interviews anyway.
But he spent his career doing high security work for the government. Those jobs don't like the idea of you sitting on $600M worth of untraceable currency.
I don't blame him (Score:1)
I am sure interested parties (Read: NSA/CIA/FBI/DEA/etc.) would love to question (Read: Guantanamo Bay) the makers of this almost anonymous currency.
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If you were the maker of Bitcoin, you could afford it.
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What makes you think that one of them didn't create it?
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So when did you finally decide to admit you were the founder of bitcoin?
Was that before or after you stopped beating your wife?
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You don't have to be doing anything illegal to desire privacy.
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I recall correctly, the original creator invested a large number of bitcoins in the SilkRoad
Umm...no. The ~1 million bitcoins that are believed to have been mined by the Bitcoin Satoshi Nakamoto have not been involved in any transactions since Satoshi disappeared in early 2011.
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If I was the maker of Bitcoin, I'd want privacy too. I am sure interested parties (Read: NSA/CIA/FBI/DEA/etc.) would love to question (Read: Guantanamo Bay) the makers of this almost anonymous currency.
In all seriousness, what questions would you want to ask? If somebody thinks that he's still sitting on a huge pile of bitcoins, they'd probably want those transferred to a new owner; but there aren't a lot of other secrets to be had, aside from tedious and largely pointless questions about 'So, what inspired you to create a cryptocurrency?' How it works is a matter of public knowledge, and if there are any undocumented lemmae your best bet is probably to ask your own in-house team of world class cryptograp
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Well, either that or give him a medal for creating the first totally traceable currency just anonymous enough to get people to actually use it. The bitcoin transaction log, is after all an investigative financial analyst's wet dream, available without having to deal with nearly so many of those pesky warrants or untraceable cash transactions.
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Keep telling yourself that, I'm sure your amateur obfuscation attempts can outsmart the data analysis experts at the NSA.
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Took him a month to deny it?
Makes one wonder.
Officially, sure. But I've read some articles in the past like 1-2 weeks ago where he said he denied it when asked.
He was probably hoping that denying it that much would be enough for the paper to admit it made a mistake, but now has to make a formal denial. Besides, a formal denial probably needs to go through a lawyer first of something just to make sure everything you're saying is kosher.
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Oh great, so you need to be a Jew in order to make a formal denial? This atheist thing is starting to be more troublesome than I imagined.
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Oh great, so you need to be a Jew in order to make a formal denial? This atheist thing is starting to be more troublesome than I imagined.
Kosher is also commonly defined as "legitimate". "she consulted lawyers to make sure everything was kosher" is actually an example sentence if you type, "define: kosher" into google.
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please explain in detail how the joke was in any way 'anti-semitic'
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You only get to say woosh when the joke you made is actually funny. Stupid and slightly anti-Semitic jokes don't count.
I found it funny, to me at least. I got it and there's nothing 'anti-semitic' about it. I guess one needs to start from the top of the comments and read down, hitting his reply I lol'd.
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Oh great, so you need to be a Jew in order to make a formal denial? This atheist thing is starting to be more troublesome than I imagined.
Kosher is also commonly defined as "legitimate".
"she consulted lawyers to make sure everything was kosher" is actually an example sentence if you type, "define: kosher" into google.
That covers the kosher but, sure, but not the lawyer bit.
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By the way - when did you stop beating your Significant other?
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I hate the blood sucking leaches that are today's legal professionals. Why should I have to hire a lawyer to say I didn't do something that I didn't do. Should the rest of the 300 Million Americans that didn't invent Bitcoin hire lawyers to deny it.
The guy is being accused of doing something that many countries' government leaders would love to make into a crime. Add to the fact that he's done sensitive government work in the past... and even if they can't get it considered a crime regularly they can say it's treason or something.
When being accused of something in a major way, you go to a lawyer. I don't care if it's something small like some reported to the police that you stole their stuff... you go see a lawyer. Because as much as we want to bel
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I've been told I was an idiot for signing a contract for a $4000 timeshare without a lawyer reading it first. After the timeshare was foreclosed upon in 2002 and they just sent me my 2014 bill for maintenance fees.
On second thought.....I was an idiot, and that's what the entire timeshare industry is built on, sucking idiots dry (I'm just not enough of an idiot to have paid those maintenance fees in the last 12 years, and they'll never get another penny out of me).
High Standards? (Score:5, Insightful)
They defended with, 'Ms. Goodman's research was conducted under the same high editorial and ethical standards that have guided Newsweek for more than 80 years. Newsweek stands strongly behind Ms. Goodman and her article.'"
So, then, what you're saying here is that every Newsweek article written in the past 80 years is suspect? Having read Newsweek more than never, I can't say I disagree.
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So, then, what you're saying here is that every Newsweek article written in the past 80 years is suspect? Having read Newsweek more than never, I can't say I disagree.
Actually that just means that every Newsweek article written since the launch of the magazine under the current owners and with the current writers is suspect.
That adds up to... one issue, with a handful of articles of questionable veracity [bbc.com].
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For that matter, who the heck would pay $8 for a print magazine these days?
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Only the real messiah would deny that he... (Score:4, Funny)
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Original article states:
"Tacitly acknowledging his role in the Bitcoin project, he looks down, staring at the pavement and categorically refuses to answer questions.
"I am no longer involved in that and I cannot discuss it," he says, dismissing all further queries with a swat of his left hand. "It's been turned over to other people. They are in charge of it now. I no longer have any connection."
Curiously ambiguous, if truly a direct quote. Is he no longer involved in Bitcoin, or no longer involved in talking
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doesn't speak/understand English that well
I don't buy that part... he's been in the US since he was about 10 years old, and has been here for 50 years. He's been working alongside English-speakers--i.e., he's immersed in the language. He's a smart guy. Therefore his English is comparable to a native's. I'm from an immigrant background too, and have many friends who moved to the US when they were around 10 (+/- a few years). They haven't been here as long as Nakamoto has, but their English is native-level. Some still have a bit of an accent, but the
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he probably does speak english quite well. the reporter however assumed that he understood the question, which was not a matter of speaking english well but a matter of understanding the context, which might be hard if you've been involved with security work but don't really give a shit about bitcoin or current happenings.
"were you involved with cryptography gkracurrncccry bit com??" --> the stated answer. he was involved with some crypto systems... but hasn't been in 10 years.
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Just to play devils advocate...
Given his age, medical condition and his work history in government security fields.
He probably had no idea what the fuck a "bitcoin" was and thought it was something from his security past that he shouldn't be talking about...
He almost got the name right (Score:1)
'In an ensuing discussion with the reporter from the Associated Press, I called the technology "bitcom."'
If he had called it "bitcon" he'd have nailed it.
I'm not the creator of bitcoin either (Score:3)
And nor is my wife.
And I quote... (Score:2)
I didn't do it,
Nobody saw me do it,
you can't prove I did it,
it was like that when I got here...
The real story... (Score:3)
changes nothing given evidence (Score:1)
I hope he sues Newsweek for this. (Score:2)
I hope he sues and he gets compensation for his destroyed employment chances. The shoody level of journalism here is just unbelievable. The dick reporter basically looked up the name in a phone book found the first match that had an engineering background and started hounding the guy then did the big "reveal" which ruined the guys life.
I hope he sues and I hope he wins.
Quran desecration incident (Score:5, Interesting)
In 2005, Newsweek published a false report that American soldiers had desecrated copies of the Quran at the Guantanamo Bay prison. The report was proven false, and Newsweek retracted it, but it was too late -- the report had already sparked riots which injured over 100 people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q... [wikipedia.org]
Was the Bitcoin report written with the "same high editorial standards" that Newsweek had followed in the past? It looks like it.
Told you it was my dad (Score:1)
Next time I'll make you think it's someone in Russia and you'll go after him, never realizing it's my dad.
wait, what? (Score:2)
Re: wait, what? (Score:1)
You missed something. His full name is Dorian Satoshi Nakamoto.
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When did his name change from Satoshi to Dorian? Did I miss something? The last article said they found him because his name literally was Satoshi.
1973. From the original Newsweek article, "At the age of 23, after graduating from California State Polytechnic University, he changed his name to "Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto," according to records filed with the U.S. District Court of Los Angeles in 1973."
All Those Profitable Interviews (Score:1)
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CONservatives hate that magazine because they tell the truth. They perceive it as having a bias when it doesn't. It is simply more truthful than other news sources in the US. The reporter already confirmed the story so we know this denial is simply not true.
Ms. Goodman?
MegaCoin (Score:2)
I'm waiting for Kim Dotcom to release his own currency, 'MegaCoin' sounds pretty cool.
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There is a megacoin, supposedly unaffiliated.
If you don't believe Ms. Goodman (Score:2)
You're a sexist. At least, that seems to be the running theme lately.
I had nothing to do with Bitcoin. (Score:2)
It was invented by the NSA ... (Score:2)
Come on, you know it makes more sense. Bwahahaha!
Russia's Bill O' Reilly .. (Score:1)
oblig (Score:2)