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Pollution In China Could Be Driving Freak Weather In US 158

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Hugh Pickens DOT Com (2995471) writes "Jonathan Kaiman reports at The Guardian that China's air pollution could be intensifying storms over the Pacific Ocean and altering weather patterns in North America leading to more ... warm air in the mid-Pacific moving towards the north pole. 'Mid-latitude storms develop off Asia and they track across the Pacific, coming in to the west coast of the U.S.,' says Ellie Highwood, a climate physicist at the University of Reading. 'The particles in this model are affecting how strong those storms are, how dense the clouds are, and how much rainfall comes out of those storms.' Fossil fuel burning and petrochemical processing in Asia's rapidly developing economies lead to a build-up of aerosols, fine particles suspended in the air. Typically, aerosol formation is thought of as the antithesis to global warming: it cools our Earth's climate. But researchers say, too much of any one thing is never good. 'Aerosols provide seeds for cloud formation. If you provide too many seeds, then you fundamentally change cloud patterns and storm patterns,' says co-author Renyi Zhang. China's leaders are aware of the extent of the problem and will soon revise China's environmental protection law for the first time since 1989 ... 'The provisions on transparency are probably the most positive step forward,' says Alex Wang, expert in Chinese environmental law at UCLA. 'These include the requirement that key polluters disclose real-time pollution data.'"
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Pollution In China Could Be Driving Freak Weather In US

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @09:10AM (#46766421)

    Its easy to blame China for massive pollution, but it's industry is merely trying to satisfy massive demand, mostly western.

    They cannot be expected to adopt first world environmental standards that took decades for the west to develop. Also US/Euro companies outsourcing manufacturing, are dodging domestic environmental regulations to save on costs. So here at least, no one to blame but the west.

    In a way, this reminds me of the financial crisis when it was brewing. We could blame the property developers for profiteering, the real estate agents for overselling, the banks for over-lending, the regulator its for 'light-touch' approach, the politicians for not legislating appropriately and the central banks for not raising interest rates to cool the whole thing down.

    But...

    Everyone has a share of the responsibility, everyone has little (but many) choices to make daily.

    And just as the financial crisis, everyone will be held accountable with the exception of the elites.

  • Re:Polution tax (Score:5, Insightful)

    by fuzznutz (789413) on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @09:34AM (#46766713)

    ahem ahem .... next time you go to walmart, the cheapest microwave oven is going to be $800 ... ahem ahem, next time you go to buy a light bulb, the cheapest is going to be 3 for $25 ... ahem ahem .... next time you buy an iphone, it is going to be $0 which comes with 15 years contract ... ahem ahem ... just saying.

    And since the prices go up and replacement is not something you want to have to do very often. Maybe we stop buying based upon what is cheapest and stop getting something that cannot be repaired and is essentially disposable after one use, and we start buying on quality and repairability. Everything is designed for the landfill these days. it didn't use to be that way before we started importing "cheap" junk.

  • by operagost (62405) on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @09:48AM (#46766861) Homepage Journal

    Americans constitute 5% of the worlds population, yet we consume 24% of its energy.

    Per capita statistics on energy use aren't very useful. Americans are also productive. If your method of measuring efficiency is per capita usage, then places like the favorite Marxist straw man of Somalia (and favorite neocon straw man of North Korea) would rate very highly.

  • Re:Or it could be (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @09:52AM (#46766915)

    I bet if you got any typical Climate Scientists drunk and just partied with them, it would eventually spill out that they have no fucking clue what they are doing.

    Of course, because the Koch brothers have told us that the scientists are the side of this that are just in if for the money, sitting there in their big mansions with their bling, super sports cars and supermodels.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @09:53AM (#46766923)

    ...and the Democrat Underground have both infested Slashdot.

    You want to see economic ignorance incarnate? Just come to Slashdot where a bunch of unemployed college students will vomit back all manner of Marxist, Stalinist, Leninist and Maoists economic theory poured into their giant, empty heads by their professors.

  • Re:Or it could be (Score:2, Insightful)

    by NatasRevol (731260) on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @10:07AM (#46767095) Journal

    Man, I wish I was a scientist.

    So I could be bought off by the Koch brothers.

  • Re:Polution tax (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mlts (1038732) on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @10:42AM (#46767515)

    If the microwave was repairable/servicable with magnetron parts available for example, there wouldn't be anything wrong with an $800 unit. In fact, going back to appliances that are designed to be repaired rather than replaced is probably one of the best ideas that can happen in the market.

    One example of this are portable generators. I can buy a no-name Chinese model inverter on the cheap. However, if I need to find a carb, jets, brushes, or other parts, I -might- be able to adapt something, or I might just be SOL and have to buy a new one. Or, I can pay the price premium for a Honda, Yamaha, or Champion make, and be able to find parts almost anywhere.

    If LED light bulbs mature enough so they have a long MTBF, then three for $25 is a good deal. That isn't a bad thing either.

    Similar with a phone. If it were made somewhat modular where RAM, flash storage, and other parts were upgradable, with the antenna being easily swapped out, then paying twice as much for the device wouldn't be a bad thing.

    It would be nice to see something other than the absolute race to the bottom when it comes to materials, fit/finish, customer support, and overall quality.

  • No shit guys ... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by gstoddart (321705) on Wednesday April 16, 2014 @11:18AM (#46768077) Homepage

    That's why climate change is a global thing.

    Are people laboring under the belief that this will result in purely localized effects?

    There is only one atmosphere, and if you screw it up, it's screwed up everywhere.

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