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Marvel's New Thor Will Be a Woman 590

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An anonymous reader writes: Marvel Comics has announced that Thor, the thunder god whose story has been told in comic books, movies, and TV shows since the 1960s, will fall from grace, and no longer be able to wield his hammer Mjolnir. A brand new female character will take up the name Thor and continue the series. Jason Aaron, the series writer, said, "This is not She-Thor. This is not Lady Thor. This is not Thorita. This is THOR. This is the THOR of the Marvel Universe. But it's unlike any Thor we've ever seen before." Marvel's Wil Moss added, "The new Thor continues Marvel's proud tradition of strong female characters like Captain Marvel, Storm, Black Widow and more. And this new Thor isn't a temporary female substitute — she's now the one and only Thor, and she is worthy!"
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Marvel's New Thor Will Be a Woman

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  • by C0R1D4N (970153) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:16PM (#47460533)
    Just another comic book gimmick like female Robin, and gay minority Spiderman. Comic books can't go more than a few months without having to completely change everything around and "spice things up". Just try following a single title for more than two years.
  • Imagination? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by infogulch (1838658) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:27PM (#47460725)
    Are we so unimaginative now that it's not possible to come up with and build new characters? Existing characters have to be completely substituted, just to piggyback on the established lore and history?

    And for what? To satisfy some new gender-equality metric? Seriously, I know it would take time and effort, but surely you can come up with a compelling unique story for a woman without them having to be propped up by a different character's previous popularity.
  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Noah Haders (3621429) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:38PM (#47460885)
    keeping with tradition I assume she'll be a sexy thor with big b00bs that are popping through her skimpy outfit. positive role models ftw!
  • Re:Congratulations? (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Zumbs (1241138) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:47PM (#47460989) Homepage

    Asgard wasn't an afterlife, it was a different "realm", like Midgard (Earth), Miflheim, Jotunheim and the others.

    Both Valhalla [wikipedia.org] and Folkvang [wikipedia.org] were located in Asgard. Both were most certainly afterlives!

  • Weird (Score:5, Interesting)

    by The Grim Reefer (1162755) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:47PM (#47460997)

    I'm all for strong women. Hell, I have an 11 year old daughter. So I like the idea of her having strong role models. But this is a little weird considering the comic book character is based off of the male god of Norse legend by the same name. And why is this a "fall from grace" as TFS states? And why can't (s)he wield Mjolnir?

    While I'm asking, why is it that most of these comic book "strong women" have a pair of double D boobs (at minimum) falling out of their outfits? I don't care how skilled a women is, she ain't gonna be fighting worth a damn in 5 inch 'fuck-me-heels' with her ass and boobs falling out of her costume.

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Desler (1608317) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:53PM (#47461051)

    You are using archaic myths to justify misogyny.

    Right, because slapping big tits on a female character to appeal to creepy nerds is the height of enlightenment and anti-misogyny.

    Taking a historic Superhero character and making it a woman is a good thing. The industry needs fewer people like you, and more young girls.

    Sure, it would be if she wasn't made to have the same ridiculous and unrealistic body proportions that no woman can live up to. Same with not having your female characters just be simply riding the coattails of a popular male character. If they really believed the nonsense they are spewing they would have created an original character without ridiculous things like the huge tits. As it is, this is just comics sexism disguised as "empowerment".

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:56PM (#47461085)

    It would literally make more sense to say that Thor is transgendered and changed sex through his/her own will than to say Thor falls from grace and replaced by a different female god that also wants to be called Thor.

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by medv4380 (1604309) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:58PM (#47461111)
    No, he's using the comic industries status quo to explain that everything always goes back to how it was. Peter dies with Doc Oc taking over his body, and then the Superior Spiderman arc is done and Peter is Peter once again. Another example being Wonder Woman loosing her title, and powers so they could put a blonde in the title for a bit so they could Kill Wonder Woman Artemis without Killing Wonder Woman Diana. Anyone who thought that was permanent doesn't read comics. So what we have now is Thor has lost his title and some woman is worthy to wield the hammer. She'll be Thor up until the end when the Arc Kills Her, which would be why they wanted Thor out of it. If she's lucky she'll have increased the audience and they'll save her and give her a unique title, maybe. Don't mistake Comic Book Cynicism for Misogyny. They're not the same.
  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by machineghost (622031) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @04:59PM (#47461119)

    RTFM. Thor does not become a female (and neither does Obama). The only thing that changed is who the comic book "Thor" focuses on (its now a different mortal who has Thor's hammer than it was in the past). It's like if a woman put on a cape, took the batmobile out for a spin and called herself Batman. If the comic book called "Batman" focuses on her then for all intents and purposes she "is" Batman ... but it doesn't mean Bruce Wayne got a sex change.

  • Also shown here in the only true comic about Thor (and friends and foes), the Danish "Valhalla" comic by Peter Madsen. None of this Marvel junk, please.

    http://i.imgur.com/87zorZg.jpg [imgur.com]
    Notice that Thor is shown in accordance with Norse mythology, as a stout man with red hair and a bushy beard. No fair-haired prettyboys here!

    http://i.imgur.com/46TT17b.jpg [imgur.com]
    "How many times must I tell you? Don't touch my stuff!"

    Best comic ever.

  • Re:Please, enough. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by epyT-R (613989) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @05:25PM (#47461443)

    Either you are being misogynistic, or stupid. Pick at least one.

    Nope. False dilemma used as ad hominem.

    Cluebat -- The thor comic is based on the norse mythology, making it reasonable for the character to be male. The narrative in the article makes it clear this change is being done for 'grrl power' political reasons.

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Darinbob (1142669) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @05:42PM (#47461607)

    Why not have a comic based on Sif? Or another female Asgardian?

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by brit74 (831798) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @06:14PM (#47461903)
    It has more to do with the blatant pandering. Hell, if this is your argument, then we might as well turn all superheros female in service to women's empowerment because all of them have unrealistic superpowers.
  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Tom (822) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @06:23PM (#47461977) Homepage Journal

    You are using archaic myths to justify misogyny.

    Are you for real?

    The norse mythology is radically gender-equal compared to most other ancient mythologies, especially among the western ones. It has plenty of strong female characters to offer.

    Taking a historic Superhero character and making it a woman is a good thing.

    No, it's ridiculous, stupid and if I were a feminist, I'd probably hate it. What would be a good thing is to create an original female character, one that's not a sidekick or off-shot, but a fully-fledged character in her own rights, with none of the stupid revealing-armour-that-is-worthless-in-a-fight-but-makes-your-boobs-look-bigger nonsense.

    Turning a male character into a woman is probably the most idiotic non-solution you could come up with.

    Did you know Thor was the god of fertility, healing? Did you also now they aren't changing the Myth, just a comic character?

    That is what makes it doubly stupid. If this were a pure comic book character, the dissonance would be much less.

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by optimus2861 (760680) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @07:27PM (#47462479)

    Do they have such little creativity that they best they can do is make a female Thor?

    Yes.

    Marvel Comics lost its creativity many years ago, probably no later than the time that the first Spider-Man movie debuted in the theaters (though I'd say a good 5-7 years prior). Ever since then, they 'shuffle the deck chairs' around, but nothing ever sticks. The characters always eventually revert to status quo. They make much, much more money from their licensing than they ever will on the comics, and they really don't want to kill that golden goose. Thor will be back as his usual self by the time Avengers 2 hits theaters. Bank on it.

  • Insulting? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @07:50PM (#47462655)

    Hmm, Thor is not property of Marvel Comics..They have hijacked a Nordic cultural icon. Taking something away from someone else's culture and making money with it caused issue for Marvel. I would think taking a cultural icon from a foreign country and giving it a sex change will cause more issue. Thor is not their story. and not theirs to change. I'm betting eventual litigation, if not from Americans..then from the Nordics. What next, are they going to steal Poseidon from the Greeks and create a transsexual against the will of others?

  • Re:Ridiculous! (Score:0, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @08:46PM (#47462981)

    This is simply lazy copying by Marvel. Japan is 5 years into a sad trend where they re-write every one of their existing stories that had male leads with female leads (eg see "K-On", which is "Beck" with girls, or even "Hakuoki" which re-casts the murderous Bakumatsu-era group the Shinsengumi as female-friendly pretty boys). It's another sign of an industry in decline which we can see even in Japan's comic industry which is many times larger than Marvel/DC. Of course in Japan they know where their bread is buttered so even though they do all this, they also play to their male audiences which is why franchises like Gundam are going as strong as they ever have after many decades. As well, they actually HAVE a female comic audience in Japan so while they may appeal to guys with girls with big tits in their stories, they also have an entire side of the industry that deals exclusively with the female point of view which basically means love stories with neutered male characters. Marvel would give it's soul to have (a) the market size that the Japanese comic industry has (go check out what comic is the biggest selling comic of all time....it ain't Superman or Batman or Spiderman, it's Japan's pirate comic "One Piece") and (b) a female audience. In Japan, comics sell to every demographic. I love reading my weekly copy of "Shuukan Manga Goraku" which is geared to adult men and so is filled with stories of sex, crime, gambling and hard work.

  • Re: Ridiculous! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Algae_94 (2017070) on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @09:54PM (#47463325) Journal

    Was Beta Ray Bill actually referred to as Thor when he had Mjolnir? I do not recall if he was or not.

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