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Climate Damage 'Irreversible' According Leaked Climate Report 708

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New submitter SomeoneFromBelgium (3420851) writes According to Bloomberg a leaked climate report from the IPPC speaks of "Irreversible Damage." The warnings in the report are, as such, not new but the tone of voice is more urgent and more direct than ever. It states among other things that global warming already is affecting "all continents and across the oceans," and that "risks from mitigation can be substantial, but they do not involve the same possibility of severe, widespread, and irreversible impacts as risks from climate change, increasing the benefits from near-term mitigation action."
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Climate Damage 'Irreversible' According Leaked Climate Report

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  • Impacts (Score:2, Informative)

    by mdsolar (1045926) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @09:53AM (#47765059) Homepage Journal
    “Without additional mitigation, and even with adaptation, warming by the end of the 21st century will lead to high to very high risk of severe, widespread, and irreversible impacts globally,” the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said in the draft.
  • It's IPCC...not IPPC (Score:4, Informative)

    by dtjohnson (102237) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @10:06AM (#47765193)
    At least get the acronym for the name of the organization predicting doom right. And...there's no hurry for action. The climate is currently taking a 'hiatus' from warming due to the alleged storage of heat in the deep ocean. Forecasts for the upcoming winter are...cold.
  • Re:Damage or Change? (Score:3, Informative)

    by thedonger (1317951) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @10:07AM (#47765201)

    Climate has always changed, the concept of "Damage" is only relevant to those affected by it.

    You mean, the same way as asteroids of various sizes have impacted into the Earth throughout the history of the planet, and "Damage" is only relevant to those affected by it?

    Yes, I agree.

    Sure, why not? And it is only "damage" to the species that die out. Think of all the evolutionary opportunity there will be in the Next Phase!

  • Re:Impacts (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @10:30AM (#47765435)

    “Without additional mitigation, and even with adaptation, warming by the end of the 21st century will lead to high to very high risk of severe, widespread, and irreversible impacts globally,” the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change said in the draft.

    Oh great. "The sky is gonna fall! Almost 100 years from now!!! Disaster is looming!!!!"

    And people wonder where deniers come from?

    Here's a hint: exaggeration and catastrophic alarmism destroy credibility.

  • Re:Impacts (Score:5, Informative)

    by blue9steel (2758287) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @10:46AM (#47765641)

    Yes, we should prepare, but we can not adapt. With are current Greenhouse gas release, there isn't an endpoint survivable by humans. It will get two warm for food growth, anywhere. People act like, well it will happen and we will just farm 200 miles more north.

    Hogwash. Even in the IPCC A1FI scenario, the most pessimistic case presented, total global warming by 2100 is 1.4C to 6.4C. Yes, that would have significant bad effects but it's not going to mean the end of agriculture across the entire planet. Earth isn't going to turn into Venus. The average temp at the equator now is 30C while in Siberia it's only 0.5C. So, if we look at the average high temperature for Novosibirsk during the hottest month of July (25.7) and add the high end of the worst case scenario (6.4C) then we only get 32.1C, so yeah moving north will be an option. I'd expect massive droughts in the equatorial zones, the collapse of many third world governments and a huge refugee crisis but that's not the same as saying it's unsurvivable by humans as a species.

  • Re:Impacts (Score:4, Informative)

    by fyngyrz (762201) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @12:32PM (#47766853) Homepage Journal

    You *do* realize that the equatorial zone is generally tropical, wet as heck, and quite a bit warmer than everywhere else, yes? And that plants thrive on CO2?

    Doesn't follow that making it warmer will make it drier. That doesn't seem to be how it works. Drier happens when water sources go away. There's no reasonable postulate for that which would apply to most equatorial regions.

  • Re:Impacts (Score:2, Informative)

    by WhiplashII (542766) on Wednesday August 27, 2014 @01:45PM (#47767641) Homepage Journal

    Even worse, every prediction they have made about actual temperature has been falsified. Every single one! Five year predictions, wrong, ten year predictions, even further off, 15 year predictions way out of line, 20 year predictions so far off that statistics has falsified the models to 99% confidence levels.

    Note that as time goes further out, the predictive power decreases dramatically. That is the opposite of the claim "we can predict climate on 100 year scales but not weather on yearly scales."

    If your predictions get further and further from the truth as time goes on, you do not get to continue to use those predictions to force others to go without.

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