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Gyro-Copter Lands On West Lawn of US Capitol, Pilot Arrested 327

An anonymous reader writes that Doug Hughes, 61, a mailman from Ruskin, Florida was arrested for landing a gyro-copter on the West Lawn of the U.S. Capitol. "A 61-year-old Florida mailman was arrested Wednesday after he landed a gyrocopter on the U.S. Capitol west lawn. The gyrocopter was carrying the pilot and 535 stamped letters for members of Congress urging 'real reform' to campaign finance laws. Doug Hughes told the Tampa Bay Times ahead of the afternoon stunt that he notified authorities 'well over an hour in advance of getting to the no-fly zone, so they know who I am and what I'm doing.' Capitol police sent dogs and a bomb squad to the scene. Nothing hazardous was found. A city block from the Capitol had been cordoned off."
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Gyro-Copter Lands On West Lawn of US Capitol, Pilot Arrested

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  • by mrsam ( 12205 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @06:20PM (#49481751) Homepage

    Cut the guy some slack. He simply wanted to fly to D.C.; he had his own gyrocopter, and he really didn't feel like having his nuts groped by the TSA.

    Can you really blame him?

  • by netsavior ( 627338 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @06:23PM (#49481769)
    I mean, I do not advocate the death penalty for stupidity, but I am shocked he wasn't hit by a sniper before he even crossed the property line.
    • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @06:27PM (#49481793)

      It'd be fucking stupid to shoot him down like that.

      So instead of there being a helicopter in the air with a human at controls, doing what you suggest would result in a helicopter in the air with nobody controlling it.

      At least there's a chance of it being landed safely when there's a human controlling it.

      When nobody is controlling it, there's a much greater risk of it falling out of the sky and causing harm. It could land on buildings. It could land on vehicles. It could land on pedestrians and tourists. It could land on your own frigging cock and balls, for crying out loud.

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      • So instead of there being a helicopter in the air with a human at controls

        What about an auto-gyro with 30 lbs or so of C4? Do you still want the "human at the controls"? You don't know what the intentions are, you just know it's very illegal to be there yet there he is.

        At this point you'd have to be an idiot to be a terrorist and not try to pilot a small explosive laden gyro into some major target, since it's obviously so easy.

        I can't believe the "no fly zone" over Washington is such a total sham with not

        • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
          The standard interception craft couldn't do anything. They can't follow him. They would only be of use to shoot him down, and would likely have to manually engage with guns (with great risk to the surroundings) because the gryo is too small and slow (and likely low) to do much else with.

          Maybe they could have sent up a helicopter, but the standard response is jets, who can't go slow enough or work closely enough to give an effective response.
        • by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 ) on Thursday April 16, 2015 @01:35AM (#49483355)

          What about an auto-gyro with 30 lbs or so of C4? Do you still want the "human at the controls"? You don't know what the intentions are, you just know it's very illegal to be there yet there he is.

          This man was known to the Secret Service, they even interviewed him a year or so before this, on a tip that he would do JUST THIS.

          In addition, he called the Secret Service an hour before he got there to let them know he was coming and why. The press also called them because he was in contact with the press to let them know this was a publicity stunt.

      • I mean, I do not advocate the death penalty for stupidity, but I am shocked he wasn't hit by a sniper before he even crossed the property line.

        I don't know about a sniper, but he was in a no-fly zone. Don't they scramble jets when someone enters a no-fly zone? Especially near the Capitol. I assume they do, but I don't really know.

        • by AK Marc ( 707885 ) on Thursday April 16, 2015 @12:49AM (#49483269)
          And what would a jet do? He would have been so small, slow and low, I don't expect that they could get a good lock for missiles, and they would have the backdrop of city streets if they went hot with guns. Their best bet would be to try to ram him as he passed over the river, risking an expensive jet for a minor stunt.

          A helicopter with a door-gun would have been the least-damaging to the surroundings, and they may not keep those on ready stand-by.
        • by FlyHelicopters ( 1540845 ) on Thursday April 16, 2015 @01:37AM (#49483361)

          I don't know about a sniper, but he was in a no-fly zone. Don't they scramble jets when someone enters a no-fly zone? Especially near the Capitol. I assume they do, but I don't really know.

          Yes, usually...

          In this case, he wasn't on RADAR and the Secret Service knew he was coming. He was known to them and he had made prior contact to let them know of his publicity stunt.

    • by dbIII ( 701233 )
      He rang ahead. I'd be shocked if somebody fucked up and did shoot him down.
      • Step 1) Call/email ahead and say you are totally harmless.
        Step 2) Fly/Drive/Swim vehicle packed to the gill with explosives right into your target without bother.
        Step 3) Prophet!

        • by AK Marc ( 707885 )
          Yeah, when you call ahead, and the background check indicates 10 previous arrests for terrorism, and your most recent credit card transaction was at Bomb-Mart, and you aren't an American citizen, I think the response would have been different.
  • by l0ungeb0y ( 442022 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @06:25PM (#49481777) Homepage Journal

    A 61-year-old Florida mailman was arrested Wednesday after he landed a gyrocopter on the U.S. Capitol west lawn. The gyrocopter was carrying the pilot and 535 stamped letters for members of Congress urging 'real reform' to campaign finance laws.

    So in other words, they arrested a Federal Employee on Federal Property for doing his job.

    • I doubt his job description includes "Flying small aircraft to personally deliver letters."

    • Doing his job wrong.... he's supposed to drop that mail off at a mail processing facility, not the Capitol itself.

      • he's supposed to drop that mail off at a mail processing facility, not the Capitol itself.

        Such as the US post office in room HT-1 of the US Capitol?

        • HT-1 only accepts mail that's been cleared at a non-talked-about facility. It's gotta come from the right clearance to get there. There are many "downtown" post offices that only accept one truck route, and only go outbound by that same truck route.

    • "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds..."
  • by jratcliffe ( 208809 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @06:26PM (#49481781)

    ...is now the SECOND-craziest SOB ever to fly one of those things.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    a drone

  • So, this guy published the the fact that he was going to do this on his blog and in email before he did it. Here's the quote from "Thehill.com":

    On the webpage thedemocracyclub.org, he wrote: ''My flight is not a secret. Before I took off, I sent an Email to info@barackobama.com. The letter is intended to persuade the guardians of the Capitol that I am not a threat and that shooting me down will be a bigger headache than letting me deliver these letters to Congress.''

    Tell me again, what our incredible spying

    • by amicusNYCL ( 1538833 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @07:04PM (#49481979)

      Before he took off he also called his friend back home to tell him the plan. His friend had the business card of a Secret Service agent who had previously visited and interviewed them after hearing about his plan for a "big thing" to call attention to campaign finance reform. His friend called the Secret Service agent, got no answer, but left a message informing him of the impending flight. He never got a call back, and the authorities claimed they were not aware of the flight. So, yeah, bit of an intelligence failure there.

      Here's a much better article that includes a video at the bottom of him actually landing on the lawn, as well as the text of the letters he was trying to deliver. Note the complete lack of any resistance to him landing, the Capitol Police weren't out there and it took a little while to hear the first sirens.

      http://www.tampabay.com/news/p... [tampabay.com]

    • info@barackobama.com

      That's like e-mailing the home address of a CEO to get a store employee to do something. BarackObama.com was one of his campaign sites.. government business happens at whitehouse.gov instead.

      • He's a mailman, not a computer guy. It's all the big blue "E".

        • He sent an e-mail to the president's website declaring he was going to do it, and assuming that generated permission to fly in a zone where a baseball home run isn't even allowed.

      • BarackObama.com was one of his campaign sites

        Seems like the best way to reach that clown, even at T-19 months from irrelevancy.

  • I would love to see an organized protest (of anything) that involved a fleet of hundreds of quad-copters converging on the capital...

  • Simulated call...

    Suspect: I'm going to deliver some mail by Gyrocopter on the west lawn of the capitol buliding. Here's my ID and flight plan.
    Spook: Uhm, that's a no-fly zone...
    Suspect: Thanks for letting me do this.
    Spook: We'll have plenty of capitol police around you when you get there.

    The US Government doesn't accept mail at sites anymore... they download it from Earth Class Mail.

  • by magarity ( 164372 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @07:04PM (#49481985)

    One of the first produced autogyros was for mail delivery and landed on the White House lawn. That one got a trophy from Pres Hoover.

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    by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @07:51PM (#49482189)
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    • The Capitol police showed remarkable restraint.
  • by bugs2squash ( 1132591 ) on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @08:01PM (#49482249)
    Once he radioed in to tell them he was with the USPS the secret service knew for sure he could not possibly be an armed maniac.
  • Hughs' Letter (Score:4, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @08:19PM (#49482341)

    Dear ___________,

    Consider the following statement by John Kerry in his farewell speech to the Senate —

    "The unending chase for money I believe threatens to steal our democracy itself. They know it. They know we know it. And yet, Nothing Happens!" — John Kerry, 2-13

    In a July 2012 Gallup poll, 87% tagged corruption in the federal government as extremely important or very important, placing this issue just barely behind job creation. According to Gallup, public faith in Congress is at a 41-year record low, 7%. (June 2014) Kerry is correct. The popular perception outside the DC beltway is that the federal government is corrupt and the US Congress is the major problem. As a voter, I'm a member of the only political body with authority over Congress. I'm demanding reform and declaring a voter's rebellion in a manner consistent with Jefferson's description of rights in the Declaration of Independence. As a member of Congress, you have three options.

    1. You may pretend corruption does not exist.

    2. You may pretend to oppose corruption while you sabotage reform.

    3. You may actively participate in real reform.

    If you're considering option 1, you may wonder if voters really know what the 'chase for money' is. Your dismal and declining popularity documented by Gallup suggests we know, but allow a few examples, by no means a complete list. That these practices are legal does not make them right! Obviously, it is Congress who writes the laws that make corruption legal.

    1. Dozens of major and very profitable corporations pay nothing in taxes. Voters know how this is done. Corporations pay millions to lobbyists for special legislation. Many companies on the list of freeloaders are household names — GE, Boeing, Exxon Mobil, Verizon, Citigroup, Dow

    2. Almost half of the retiring members of Congress from 1998 to 2004 got jobs as lobbyists earning on average fourteen times their Congressional salary. (50% of the Senate, 42% of the House)

    3. The new democratic freshmen to the US House in 2012 were 'advised' by the party to schedule 4 hours per day on the phones fund raising at party headquarters (because fund raising is illegal from gov't offices.) It is the donors with deep pockets who get the calls, but seldom do the priorities of the rich donor help the average citizen.

    4. The relevant (rich) donors who command the attention of Congress are only .05% of the public (5 people in a thousand) but these aristocrats of both parties are who Congress really works for. As a member of the US Congress, you should work only for The People.

    1. Not yourself.

    2. Not your political party.

    3. Not the richest donors to your campaign.

    4. Not the lobbyist company who will hire you after your leave Congress.

    There are several credible groups working to reform Congress. Their evaluations of the problem are remarkably in agreement though the leadership (and membership) may lean conservative or liberal. They see the corrupting effect of money — how the current rules empower special interests through lobbyists and PACs — robbing the average American of any representation on any issue where the connected have a stake. This is not democracy even if the ritual of elections is maintained.

    The various mechanisms which funnel money to candidates and congress-persons are complex. It happens before they are elected, while they are in office and after they leave Congress. Fortunately, a solution to corruption is not complicated. All the proposals are built around either reform legislation or a Constitutional Amendment. Actually, we need both — a constitutional amendment and legislation.

    There will be discussion about the structure and details of reform. As I see it, campaign finance reform is the cornerstone of building an honest Congress. Erect a wall of separation between our elected officials and big money. This you must do — or your replacement will do. A corporation is not 'people' and no individ

  • the real crazy: (Score:5, Informative)

    by circletimessquare ( 444983 ) <circletimessquar ... m minus language> on Wednesday April 15, 2015 @08:28PM (#49482383) Homepage Journal

    most americans agree with him

    he could have chosen a better way to make his point. but he'll be prosecuted, and the corruption will continue

    • by mishehu ( 712452 )
      What "better" way would that be? Seems to me guy's got balls of steel or is mentally unstable.. I'm going with the former, and I think I'll contribute to his needs-stronger-underwear-to-hold-his-steel-balls fund. :-)
    • most americans agree with him

      No, most Americans do not think that the government be allowed to stop you from expressing your opinion about politics. That's what the First Amendment is there to prevent the government from doing.

  • "And I will tell you completely honestly: I'd rather die in the flight than live to be 80 years old and see this country fall."

    I'd think so....

    What he is pointing out is the money corruption going on and making this whole political game a charade - just look at those faces... clowns?

    It would be worth laughing about it if it wouldn'd be so sad.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 16, 2015 @06:24AM (#49483981)

    There is no democracy when corporations are allowed unlimited campaign donations, have the rights of 'people', and can direct their media/news to support their candidates..

    If all the information most of the population get is from controlled sources, then theres no hope for "3rd party" and nothing will ever really change..
    Republican or democratic parties, Bush, Obama... Other than token issues theres no difference. :(

    Remember folks the wealthiest 400(four hundred) people in the USA own more assets than the lower 150 million(150,000,000) people combined.

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