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Samsung Pay Launches In Korea In August, US In September 30

Mark Wilson writes: The main thrust of Samsung's Galaxy Unpacked event was to launch the Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge+, but the company also provided some details about Samsung Pay. With so many similarly-specced smartphones vying for attention, each manufacturer needs to offer something slightly different, and Samsung is hoping that a new digital payment system will prove attractive to people. Going head to head with Android Pay and Apple Pay is Samsung Pay. As well as offering compatibility with the newly announced Galaxy Note 5 and Galaxy S6 Edge+, Samsung's payment system is supported by many of its older handsets. It will launch in its home country of Korea on August 20, and will spread to the US at the end of September.
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Samsung Pay Launches In Korea In August, US In September

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  • by Greyfox ( 87712 ) on Thursday August 13, 2015 @07:45PM (#50312969) Homepage Journal
    One more app that will get wiped when the first thing I do with my new phone is root it and install CyanogenMod.
  • "and will spread to the US at the end of September."

    No.... no it won't.

    • Yep. I have Apple Pay on my phone and never been inclined to use it. I think the more of these mobile payment schemes that crop up, the more confusing they become for anyone to use.
  • People will start testing all those new android flaws...

  • by viperidaenz ( 2515578 ) on Thursday August 13, 2015 @08:16PM (#50313103)

    Emulating a magnetic card swipe with a magnetic field is a dud.
    If doesn't work with chip and pin cards where the terminal has a chip reader, since the mag swipe will be responded with "Please Insert Card".

    LoopPay, the company Samsung bought to acquire the technology, says "they're working on it" which is only going to be "we're trying to convince card issuers and terminal providers to removed their fraud protections"

    It's also not going to work if your bank uses "Liquid encryption technology[1]", where the magstrip data is updated every time you put your card in their ATM's. It's primary purpose is to stop card skimmers, which LoopPay effectively is. If you scanned your card in to LoopPay then put your real card in an ATM, the next time you use your LoopPay, your bank will lock out your card due to fraud detection, since it will be using the old mag strip data.

    [1] [bnz.co.nz]

    • by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Emulating a magnetic card swipe with a magnetic field is a dud.
      If doesn't work with chip and pin cards where the terminal has a chip reader, since the mag swipe will be responded with "Please Insert Card".

      LoopPay, the company Samsung bought to acquire the technology, says "they're working on it" which is only going to be "we're trying to convince card issuers and terminal providers to removed their fraud protections"

      Not to mention, it'll be obsoleted Oct 1, 2015 in the US. That's when the implementation of

      • In New Zealand we've had chip+pin for many years now. There are no more terminals without a chip reader.
        Most are NFC capable as well, except a lot of retailers don't support it because NFC merchant fees are higher than regular credit card and debit cards are pretty much free for them.

      • by unrtst ( 777550 )

        So if you have a a Chip+PIN card, and the store has a magstripe reader, even though their bank supports EMV, any fraud goes to the merchant. If instead the bank doesn't support EMV, then the bank pays out. ...
        And to be honest, we've had EMV so long in Canada, I forget about signing the slip on those exceedingly rare times they only have a magstripe reader.

        Except that, in the US, they'll be doing chip+signature, not chip+pin. They plan to eventually migrate to chip+pin once EMV is widely adopted (years from now).

        And for US folks with a chip+signature card, those still won't work in EU kiosks, since those strictly require chip+pin. IMO, it's a pretty stupid baby-step.

      • When I try to swipe a card that has the chip at Walmart, the machine tells me I have to insert the card instead. For stores that don't have the chip, swiping works.

  • I doubt this would gain traction. I for one would never trust Samsung with my information. They will never become Apple Pay. Judging by the lame bloatware they add to their "powerful" Galaxy devices that slow them to a crawl, and their lack of innovation in the mobile space, I predict failure. Just another case of, "Me, too."
  • Samsung's marketing continues its long tradition of innovation. I swear, if Apple came out with a product called "Apple Sux," within a year there's be a similar product called "Samsung Sux."
  • Having had my butt saved by Google wallet, why would i uninstall that and go with Samsung pay?

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