26% of Netflix Users May Cancel Cable TV This Year, Says Survey (huffingtonpost.com) 92
The future looks grim for cable TV providers like Comcast and Time Warner Cable. A new survey says that as many as 26 percent of Netflix users may cancel their cable TV service by next year. Huffington Post reports: Where are they going? If you say "Netflix," you're not exactly correct. The fact is that, according to a recent survey by CutCableToday, 67 percent of Netflix subscribers still have cable. That's pretty much right in line with last year's numbers, insinuating that Netflix isn't necessarily synonymous with cord cutting. However, perhaps a more interesting statistic from the study shows that 26 percent of Netflix users may not have cable by next year. More specifically, 11 percent of Netflix users say they're going to cancel their cable contracts. 15 percent say they are unsure if they'll keep cable or cut the cord. What about the other 74 percent? The survey goes on to say that the most common reason people aren't canceling is due to Big Cable's greatest weapon. The bundle. The survey states that 80% of Netflix subscribers have their internet bundled with TV or phone service.
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I am a Netflix user and I will NOT cancel my cable. Reason: It costs me $0. The Comcast bundle of Internet+TV+Phone costs me exactly the same as just Internet. I have never actually watched cable, and it is not even connected to my TV, but it is nice to have it just in case someday there is something worth watching. In the meantime, it costs me nothing. The free landline phone is also handy when I misplace my cellphone somewhere in the house and need to make it ring so I can find it.
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But then that just means you're being overcharged for Internet.
Only if you assume that it costs them more than $0 to provide the TV service. Since all the bits are delivered over the same cable, the marginal equipment cost is zero. So if they make more in advertising revenue than they pay in licensing fees, the cost is negative, and the "Internet only" people are being undercharged.
The likely reason they give TV away for free, is so they can claim a larger audience, and thus charge more for TV ads.
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The likely reason they give TV away for free, is so they can claim a larger audience, and thus charge more for TV ads.
Yeah, because the people buying adspace are retards who blindly trust the TV providers and do no market research of their own.
I prefer to asssume that the people who are actually making a living doing something are atleast as knowledgeable about their job as me.
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Re:Usenet (Score:5, Insightful)
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I am a Netflix user and I will NOT cancel my cable. Reason: It costs me $0. The Comcast bundle of Internet+TV+Phone costs me exactly the same as just Internet.
Indeed. Comcast's wisdom was in bundling. However, there needs to be a movement to force public ISPs to offer Internet only at a FAIR price.
I have never actually watched cable, and it is not even connected to my TV, but it is nice to have it just in case someday there is something worth watching.
You are not missing ANYTHING! Cable TV is a 'bundle' of channels that repeat shows over and over and over and over .... and ... over and over...
And, the shows are, at best, mediocre. It is obvious that Comcast is buying the cheapest shows at whatever deal they can get. There is NO consideration for consistent quality. It is the POOREST VALUE of any service I have ever
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I looked into that recently. Comcast charges you the following fees on top of the quoted prices:
- box rental
- HD technology
- regional sports
- broadcast TV
- universal Connectivity (for the bundled landline)
- Regulatory Recovery (not a government fee)
- TV communications fee (some states but you wouldn't have to pay the fee if you don't have TV service)
https://consumerist.com/2016/0... [consumerist.com]
Most of these fees can be avoided if you go Internet only. Also if you want Internet without a cap, it's an additional $50 for
finger in the air day (Score:2)
Another one, just like the other one. How come nobody told me it was Finger in the Air day?
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Its been scientifically proven that 103% of all statistics are made up lies.
innumeracy overload (Score:2)
67% of netflix subscribers still have cable! ... or is that 74% of the 64% of subscribers who have cable?? ...carry the 1..
74% of netflix subscribers aren't going to cancel cable!
15% of netflix subscribers are uncertain about canceling
11% of netflix subscribers are going to cancel
anyone understand reverse polish notation?
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Me and my brother's solution to that (neither of us have cable) is to drive over to my parent's house on Sunday to watch football. My folks still like their cable shows, so they stay subscribed, and it gives the family a nice excuse to spend the day together, yelling at the TV (nothing like a nail-biting come-from-behind win to get the blood pumping) and sharing a meal together afterwards.
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and now 26% of parents of Netflix subscribers are thinking about cancelling Cable......
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Actions like data caps, loss of usenet, deep packet inspection, slowing p2p, a la carte television, the costs of just profiting from expensive new fast internet could all be explored for shareholder profits.
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Yet I do not understand this article!
Re: Won't effect me (Score:1)
Maybe the tv would explain when to use affect vs effect
Sweet I can cancel Comcast! (Score:2)
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If you're that concerned about your media selection, perhaps cord cutting is not for you.
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It's okay.
Cost for me for Internet (Very Fast) + Cable TV == $270 a month, plus $22 cable box rental plus $15 for HBO + $15 for Showtime. == $322 per month.
Cost for me for Internet alone: $150. $10 Netflix. $12 Hulu. $15 HBO, $11 Showtime. $10 one time OTA antenna of 3-day delay for CBS Online (Which is fine for me ), and of course Amazon Prime, which costs me $8.25 a month and saves me hundreds a year in shipping fees. But yeah, folks who like to watch sports are screwed, with NFL games online starting at
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Watching TV is a choice. No, I'm not the guy who has no TV, but I do at least recognize that I've made a choice by having one at all.
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Most people get internet + Netflix + torrents (and already have Amazon Prime for the shipping). Just sayin'.
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Try sling.. I'm going to be trying it out as the end of my Comcrap "contract" comes up soon. If Sling is as good as they claim I'm cutting the cord. :D
Bundling is monopolistic (Score:5, Insightful)
So, basically, you have a physical monopoly (the connection coming into your house), that we, the taxpayers subsided, that is now being abused as a content monopoly. "Sure, you can have just an internet connection. But, it will cost you the same as getting internet/phone/tv. Oh, and we are going to cap your internet connection so, I highly recommend you take the bundle." I really can't wait until these fuckers finally generate enough hate among their users that it becomes a re-election issue for congress critters. The *only* way this problem will be solved is if the outrage of the voters outweighs the lobby money from the monopolies.
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So, basically, you have a physical monopoly (the connection coming into your house), that we, the taxpayers subsided, that is now being abused as a content monopoly.
I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Customers who have both TV and internet service are more likely to watch TV shows via the TV service. Particularly for cable, that comes out of a different bucket of bandwidth than if you watch TV shows via an internet streaming service. In short, cord-cutters will use more--and likely far, far more--internet bandwidth over time than will TV subscribers. Building out infrastructure so that any given subscriber can reliably stream around the clock costs mone
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I'm not sure how people are saying that internet a la carte is the same as a bundle price, unless you are comparing non-promo internet pricing to promo bundle pricing. Sure you might not save a hundreds of dollars, but in my case, the tv portion was going to be over $120 after promo pricing, and home phone was going to be $40. This was
Remember in America (Score:2)
We're backing the cable companies into a corner. The FCC is about to take away their exclusive set top boxes and 20 billion a year in revenue there. Netflix is attacking them on caps and ESPN is putting sports online.
It begs the questio
Give me local news and I'll cancel (Score:3)
Don't say "antenna", I live in San Diego and with all the mountains I might get 1 or 2 stations.
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Even if you could get all the equivalents via streaming...it took my wife a few years to get the hang of Tivo. Tivo! that bastion of stupid simple TV watching. I haven't yet seen a decent interface that can really qualify as luddite friendly and encompass streaming, internet and likely some OTA.
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Netflix bread and butter was DVDs...because they didn't have to pay for them each rental. Just buy a DVD and rent it 100-1000 times at pure profit.
Now, they are charged ridiculous streaming rates, per view. It's why Netflix keeps dropping movies...unless there's a significant viewership ongoing it's not profitable to keep it in stock. (and this is not a stock rotation thing...it costs
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Have you tried a big honkin' ass antenna mounted on a tower? Just a suggestion.
I can get most of the football games I want over an antenna, all the soccer, and then there's just the problem of hockey. I'm thinking of going to SlingTV for that. I just received one of those flat "Leaf" type antennas today and try that out for a few months. If not that, I might have to try to be handy and put something better up in the attic.
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And I would get a Roku 2 instead of a Roku 3. The button layout on the 3 remote is brain-dead. The select (OK) button is below the navigat [roku.com]
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Go to TVfool.com and put in your address, and about 20' antenna height. Anything -120dBm or above, you can get with good antennas and a mast mounted preamp. I'd bet big money you can get most local stations, and for under $200 total.
We should get out more (Score:5, Interesting)
I'd be happy to see more and more people dumping, (in addition to cable), Netflix, Facebook, online gaming, porn, etc. Go out and take a walk, talk to your spouse and kids and parents and siblings, get together with friends to play some old-fashioned board games. Too many people, (myself included), are excessive consumers of prepackaged entertainment authored by other people.
BTW, I suppose I should add Slashdot to that list of stuff to devote less time to. Gotta go kiss my girlfriend now... Bye!
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I'd be happy to see more and more people dumping, (in addition to cable), Netflix, Facebook, online gaming, porn, etc. Go out and take a walk, talk to your spouse and kids and parents and siblings, get together with friends to play some old-fashioned board games. Too many people, (myself included), are excessive consumers of prepackaged entertainment authored by other people.
BTW, I suppose I should add Slashdot to that list of stuff to devote less time to. Gotta go kiss my girlfriend now... Bye!
This has nothing to do with that dribble and you really need to stop preaching. You can be plenty interactive and still take advantage of modern technology and entertainment. Stop even implying that things are bad because you have self control issues. If you're so addicted to something that you literally have to make a special effort to kiss or talk to your SO you have a severely addictive personality. If you stop doing X you'll just find Y to fill it. Netflix, Facebook, online gaming, porn, etc... aren't t
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This has nothing to do with that dribble and you really need to stop preaching. You can be plenty interactive and still take advantage of modern technology and entertainment. Stop even implying that things are bad because you have self control issues.
Whoa, slow down there Sparky! Touched a nerve there did I? I just read your response to my GF - the first words out of her mouth were "Transference, much?", followed by "you might want to mention that when you're watching too much TV or too many movies it's usually with me".
If you're so addicted to something that you literally have to make a special effort to kiss or talk to your SO you have a severely addictive personality.
Again, whoa! That's quite a jump from 'an excessive consumer of prepackaged entertainment' to 'severely addictive personality'. Leapt right over that vast middle ground between the two, didn't you? Probably didn't even notice it whizzing
Internet is cheaper than airfare (Score:2)
get together with friends to play some old-fashioned board games.
I think people don't try this as often as you wish because many people find Internet cheaper than airfare and/or cab fare to travel to where their friends live.
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get together with friends to play some old-fashioned board games.
I think people don't try this as often as you wish because many people find Internet cheaper than airfare and/or cab fare to travel to where their friends live.
Too true. Sigh...
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Sling? Seriously? They're another bundler of channels. We cut the cable years ago, went with a Roku and and now subscribe to Netflix and Acorn and get Amazon Prime video as a side benefit for using prime for shopping and textbook renting (and at the $50/yr student rate). The only thing we're even remotely interested in is a 100% ala carte channel subscription option. Any service that makes us pay for channels we never watch is a non-starter.
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Am pretty happy with sling. A bundle sure, but the bundle contains the 4 or 5 channels that I may ever watch. Easier to flip past 10-15 crap channels than 150 crap channels, especially on the relatively nice Roku interface instead of crappy 1980's cable box interface. Doubt any a la catre option would be cheaper than $20 for those channels anyway. As much as cable channels want you to pay, even free viewers make them money, hence bundles.
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Many people, however, enjoy Sling, and not everyone is a cord-cutting purist. The whole idea is freedom, yet there's always that guy bitching at others for not being free the right way.
Seriously.
I already canceled (Score:2)
Don't miss it, have Netflix and Amazon Prime, and a 30 antenna to watch the superbowl (and Downton Abby on PBS for the missus, in HD, off the air, for free.)
We can afford it, we just decided it was a waste of money.
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Yep this.
I actually get better content since I cut the cable, from my antenna than the $60/month cable plan I had with Cox.
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I actually get better content since I cut the cable, from my antenna than the $60/month cable plan I had with Cox.
Indeed. If you like to watch movies and reruns from the 30-70s, and live in a broadcast-rich city, the number of networks (e.g., Movies!, GetTV, LAFF, MeTV, Cozi, Decades, Escape, Grit, Bounce, Ion, The Works) on sub-channels is pretty amazing.
cable went from $130 to $205 in 5 years (Score:1)
and I cut it off. now I'm paying $69.88.
With HBO.
Look, cable is "fair" at $50 a month. Any price over that- I'm looking for alternatives.
I have netflix and it's still okay.
I just can NOT afford to pay $100 a month for TV. I WILL not pay $100 a month for TV.
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This! I am an employee who gets a 50% discount, and I am STILL CONSIDERING CORD CUTTING because TV is just so SHIT! It fucking amazes me how people can afford to pay so much for TV.. like HOW FUCKING BORING IS YOUR LIFE?! KILL YOURSELF!!
Does that include rolling a truck? (Score:2)
With FTTH, it only costs .50 cents per GB to provide bandwidth
Plus maintenance of the outside fiber, including rolling a truck if needed. Plus depreciation of the fiber modem (or whatever they call the device that takes the fiber line and turns it into 1000BASE-T signals at the wall).
Is that like Kodi and Exodus? (Score:2)
So this Netflix thing... it's kind of like paying for Kodi and Exodus on a Raspberry Pi except that you have less choice of content?
I don't get it.
Vintage Leather Bags (Score:1)
Vintage Leather Laptop Bags (Score:1)
We're cancelling Netflix this year (Score:2)
We've just about watched everything on it by which we are really excited and it has been working for shit lately while Amazon has been working just fine. Maybe that's a result of our junior-grade internet connection but as it's literally the best thing I can get here, that's quite irrelevant. We will probably pick up Comedy Central when we drop Netflix, assuming it works worth half a shit.
Satellite too will suffer (Score:1)
If only I could cancel cable again... (Score:2)
Cable? Ick! (Score:2)
What's "cable"??? (Score:2)
Never had it, never wanted it.
In Houston, I get about 70 broadcast channels (of which I watch about 3). With Netflix and Amazon, and Sling TV for ESPN during football season, I have no need for cable.
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