MP3.com Ad in Grammy Magazine Pulled!

Sander van Zoest writes "Grammy Magazine, the quarterly, consumer-brand publication developed by Grammy organizers the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences (NARAS) pulled an Ad for MP3.com's 5,500 Artists. " Gee, wonder what Grammy Magazine is scared of. I thought they were about music, not money. Shows what I know.

protest

[Anonymous Coward]

Hey you can leave feedback and comments on the NARAS website....i think if enough /.'s tell them what they thing, maybe they will reconsider their position.

Who wahches...

[Anonymous Coward]

It's not the "Grammys", it's the "Best Marketing Team Awards".

Backstreet Boys and Brittney Spears...pop music is at an all time low.

I'll just take the Coltrane.

Radio? riiiight.

hmmm

[drwiii]

This is why I don't listen to any "canned" music any more. If the mu$ic industry just can't help shooting itself in the foot, well, then T.S.

Favorite quote

[phil reed]

From near the end:

Still, despite the best intentions of the RIAA, it's tough to envision a time, at least in the near future, when the industry will be able to rein in the Net.

Damn straight.

Karl Marx strikes again

[pingouin]

Yeah, he's gone over so well in the ex-USSR and I hear North Korea is having a great time with his philosophies lately.

He has always done well in the US. Public education, Social Security, progressive taxation, a good job at a decent wage... heresies straight out of the Communist Manifesto. I long for an America that looks like those old Jacob Riis photos. May a million tenements and sweatshops bloom!

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We need to educate musicians on economics

[heroine]

I know a lot of musicians who support everything the NARAS and the RIAA does to channel business to their own. They flat out don't have any concept of economics at all and don't realize that only 0.1% of musicians ever benefit from RIAA, NARAS, and XYZ.

Musicians need to start taking a business class and figure out that banning advertizements for musicians who aren't signed with one of the 5 distributors isn't going to help them.

art WASN'T only about art

[aprentic]

Have you ever noticed how many of Shakspears plays defended the Natural Order (you know the one that goes from God to the King down to the rest of us)?
Do you know how many great musicians got screwed because they rubbed the Monarch the wrong way?
How about this guy Elvis who made it big being a white guy who sang black music?
Very few people are able to recognize great art. The rest of us will listen to whatever crap we get fed, and the guy with the $$ does the feeding.

You're confusing theory with practice.

[aprentic]

Visoblast isn't saying that we should swithc to a psuedo-communist economy (neither of he affor mentioned nations are actually communist) simply that we understand them.
At the very least it lets us recognize (and hopefully learn from) our mistakes.
Imagine if people stopped learning about slavery, or the holocost just because we don't practice them at the moment...

This is why the Grammy's are a joke

[Lamont]

Grammy's are The Simpsons' favorite target for jokes among the award shows, and this is just
yet another reason why.

All NARAS cares about is the bottom line, artistic
freedom be damned.

Mmmmmmmm, Britney Spears.

[Poopdbq]

I think she's a cutie. I don't really listen to that sort of music though.

money

[Cid Highwind]

>> I thought they were about music, not money.
Everthing is about money. Especially when the major record labels have a hand in it. I suspect that if you look at the financial backing of the grammys(tm) you'll find where the pressure to pull the ad came from.

You Must Be Kidding!

[HardCase]

Sander...you didn't really think that NARAS was more concerned about music than money, did you? Considering the cash cow that is the Grammies, I don't find it at all unusual that they pulled the ad.

That being said, I think it's too bad that the folks who are attempting to keep their stranglehold on the music industry are continuing this futile fight against alternative music formats. I'm reminded of the battles that the movie industry fought against television. Or that radio fought against television. Or that the record companies fought against cassette tapes.

Perhaps a better analogy might be that of trade unions. At one time there was a pressing need for them because workers were being ridden roughshod by their employers. Unions helped them by...well, you know the story. But today, the need isn't really there and unions are a vestige of a time gone by.

The same thing is true of the recording industry. It's about time that this stranglehold on recording media loosened and these vestiges of a time gone by were dumped.

But I think that as long as control and power can be centralized in the hands of one administrative body, you'll see actions like those of Grammy Magazine. They know who butters their bread.

HardCase [uswest.net]

Karl Marx strikes again

[Visoblast]

For all of you messing with the idea of what is about money and what isn't, read Karl Marx's "The Jewish Question" (its about money, not Jews). He has some fascinating insights into the matter. Naturally, they're disquiteing to anyone who thinks capitolism is *THE* way to run an economy, but those people are mostly westerners, and they seem to hold ancient Greece as the birthplace of western civilization, and Socrates did mention that those who do not question do not live.

So expand your horizions and give Marx's ideas a look over. I'm not saying that he's right, I'm just saying that his ideas are worth being familiar with. They may challenge your own ideas -- see how well your's stand up and improve your understanding. Its healthly.

NARAS comment page

[jkdufair]

NARAS [grammy.com]

Jason Dufair
"Those who know don't have the words to tell

mp3.com condones spam

[Gatton]

What on earth are you talking about? Spam to where? this thread or your email box. I've visited mp3.com for the better part of a year and they have my email address. I don't recall receiving anything from them or the artists they carry.

Jason

You Must Be Kidding!

[dillon_rinker]

Perhaps a better analogy might be that of trade unions. At one time there was a pressing need for them because workers were being ridden roughshod by their employers. Unions helped them by...well, you know the story. But today, the need isn't really there and unions are a vestige of a time gone by.

Yeah - you're absolutely right, the workers have nothing to fear from their bosses, so let's dismantle all the unions. And no one's invading us right now, so let's shut down the military - send them all home. And if your house isn't on fire, right this very minute, then we don't need a fire department. Think of all the money we waste preparing for potential problems, when we could be spending it on beer instead!

Heroic RIAA battles evil pirates on the 'net!

[SuperPedro]

"So far, three sites have discovered what the "or else" means, landing on the losing end of million-dollar lawsuits."

Wow! 3 sites since 1997! Sound like their efforts have been really effective. NOT!

Down with the man!

[Desiever]

What the hell is happening to the music industry,
er, I mean commercial franchise? Can anybody
remember when popular music was good? CD's are
still outrageously expensive, and no one has come
up with any talented, new, and above all different
music in years. This really angers me that the
music is not about musicians any more. Down with
the man!

Grateful Dead

[Alien Being]

One of the most popular musical groups of all time used to encourage "bootlegging". I miss Jerry!

Why?

[El]

By my understanding, ALL the MP3s on MP3.com are legal, authorized cuts... so what's their rationale for killing the ad? Could it be that the established record companies can't stand even a little honest competition?