But there's no charging at my apartment or work. And I get it, there's no gas station in either location, either. But I won't go to a public charger every two days and sit around for two hours either. So until my office or apartment installs chargers, It's not viable ATM. And I asked the office and apartment managers when they plan to install chargers - their answer (both) "Never".
"He also wants to provide [...] tax breaks for property owners to install EV chargers at their homes or apartment buildings. Lastly, he proposes to send direct subsidies to local governments to improve and expand the nation's network of EV charging stations. Schumer would deploy $45 billion in grants to upgrade the nation's charging infrastructure "
Property owner: "But I don't want to spend any money at all. I'll do it if it's free. Is it going to be free?"
City: no, it's not going to be free, and by the way, if you want to get a permit for anything at all, we are going to insist that you install EVSEs (what people commonly, but inaccurately refer to as EV chargers).
California did this with Solar, now requires solar to be installed on ALL new residential houses built...
That's one of the many reasons that the median price of a home here where I live is over $700K (yes, that is right) and a decent home in a decent neighborhood (ie: schools, parks, less crime) is more like >$900K.
And you think the Fed should start doing the same by requiring EV charging whether you have one or not too?
A solar install after building is around AU$14k for a ~10kW system. It would be a bit cheaper if done during the actual build. That's less than 2% price increase. Mandatory solar is not the reason house prices are high.
Prices are high because of demand, that's it. Everything else is buried by that factor.
Oh, only 14K added onto the base expense of the house, before markup. Yes, that can't possibly increase housing costs. The point is: The state has too few houses. The houses are too expensive. They keep adding costs. This would add more costs.
I've got a friend who recently tried to BUILD a house, a lifelong dream, in California. He hired an architect to design it to his exact spec. Bought land north of LA proper. Had to get tons of approvals, all slow. Local fire department demanded he put in a driveway in a
My house were I was quoted $14k for a solar setup was about $920k to buy, including taxes and other fees. Another $14k isn't much of a burden, except you need to front that cash upfront rather than paying off over 20-30 years like you do a mortgage.
When it comes to regulation increasing prices, this is a slippery slope - for example my country has experienced a few fires on apartment complexes where the cladding was not up to scratch, with subsequent deaths. Do you complain that fireproof cladding is driv
That's one of the many reasons that the median price of a home here where I live is over $700K
Where is this cheap place to live? The median price for homes sold in my city is $1.2M. A couple of years ago, someone bought a house down the street from me for $1.2M and tore it down, to build a bigger house on the plot. It's not a big plot.
To be honest, I'm sure in the cities like LA area and SF areas, the median is most likely way higher. The median I posted is for the entire state, which also includes the central valley and northern california that are more rural, so I'm sure those areas bring the median down. But it's not like you can live in Shasta county and work in Silicon valley, or live in Fresno and commute to LA.
Why would you call the inaccurate? That's what they're called.
To be strictly accurate, the only external EV "chargers" are DC fast chargers. If you plug in a level 1 or 2 device, which puts AC power into the car, the charger is in the car.
Calling them chargers is equivalent to calling the power lead to a computer a "charger".
This reminds me of the chemistry lecturer I had back in 1996 who was infuriated that the term "organic" was being used in relation to food in a way that had nothing to do with its meaning for chemistry. As though there were some kind of first dibs rule with word meanings. So pointless
I mean you can use your narrow definition of charger and call it what you want I guess. Doesn't really make you seem any smarter when you see something sold and labeled as an EV charger which you need to plug your EV in to charge it and you say "Well acktually that's an *unpronouncable acronym*", it just makes you seem like you don't understand words have different meanings in different contexts
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"He also wants to provide [...] tax breaks for property owners to install EV chargers at their homes or apartment buildings. Lastly, he proposes to send direct subsidies to local governments to improve and expand the nation's network of EV charging stations. Schumer would deploy $45 billion in grants to upgrade the nation's charging infrastructure "
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City: no, it's not going to be free, and by the way, if you want to get a permit for anything at all, we are going to insist that you install EVSEs (what people commonly, but inaccurately refer to as EV chargers).
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That's one of the many reasons that the median price of a home here where I live is over $700K (yes, that is right) and a decent home in a decent neighborhood (ie: schools, parks, less crime) is more like >$900K.
And you think the Fed should start doing the same by requiring EV charging whether you have one or not too?
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Prices are high because of demand, that's it. Everything else is buried by that factor.
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Oh, only 14K added onto the base expense of the house, before markup. Yes, that can't possibly increase housing costs.
The point is: The state has too few houses. The houses are too expensive. They keep adding costs. This would add more costs.
I've got a friend who recently tried to BUILD a house, a lifelong dream, in California. He hired an architect to design it to his exact spec. Bought land north of LA proper. Had to get tons of approvals, all slow. Local fire department demanded he put in a driveway in a
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When it comes to regulation increasing prices, this is a slippery slope - for example my country has experienced a few fires on apartment complexes where the cladding was not up to scratch, with subsequent deaths.
Do you complain that fireproof cladding is driv
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Where is this cheap place to live? The median price for homes sold in my city is $1.2M. A couple of years ago, someone bought a house down the street from me for $1.2M and tore it down, to build a bigger house on the plot. It's not a big plot.
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Why would you call the inaccurate? That's what they're called.
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To be strictly accurate, the only external EV "chargers" are DC fast chargers. If you plug in a level 1 or 2 device, which puts AC power into the car, the charger is in the car.
Calling them chargers is equivalent to calling the power lead to a computer a "charger".
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This reminds me of the chemistry lecturer I had back in 1996 who was infuriated that the term "organic" was being used in relation to food in a way that had nothing to do with its meaning for chemistry. As though there were some kind of first dibs rule with word meanings. So pointless
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Ok, but that's still what they're called. It's a device to charge your EV. What you're thinking of is a transformer.
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No, it's not. The charger is in the car. It's akin to a power lead.
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I mean you can use your narrow definition of charger and call it what you want I guess. Doesn't really make you seem any smarter when you see something sold and labeled as an EV charger which you need to plug your EV in to charge it and you say "Well acktually that's an *unpronouncable acronym*", it just makes you seem like you don't understand words have different meanings in different contexts
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So you are now acknowledging that, when I wrote: "what people commonly, but inaccurately refer to as EV chargers", I was correct. Thank you.
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If you ignore the other definitions of a word, you're correct. If you understand some words can have more than one meaning, you're not