The problem is not with the H1-B visa program per se. Nor with the raison d'etre for it.
The root cause of the problem, the loop hole that allows Indian IT companies to ship thousands of ill educated sub-standard programmers to USA is this: USA recognizes all degrees from India as though they are the equivalent of US college degrees. But sayin ALL graduates from St Mary's College of Engineering, Middle of Nowhere, Some State, India are equal to the graduates from UCLA or MIT is just bonkers.
Why can't the companies decide wether it's worth it to hire someone who graduated in India instead of MIT?
They should, but the immigration system should not have this loophole in it that BENEFITS foreign workers over U.S. workers, and makes it easier for companies to hire foreign workers.
Why can't the companies decide wether it's worth it to hire someone who graduated in India instead of MIT?
They should, but the immigration system should not have this loophole in it that BENEFITS foreign workers over U.S. workers, and makes it easier for companies to hire foreign workers.
Don't we believe in the free market anymore?
If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
True! But this is where the politics comes in. A truly free market would require the elimination of all immigration laws, and opening of the borders to let those damn foreigners in from Canada and who knows where.
Assuming that no voters in the US really want that, H1b visas provide an inconsistency within the existing framework of immigrations laws by effectively favoring foreigners over U.S. Workers.
If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
True! But this is where the politics comes in. A truly free market would require the elimination of all immigration laws, and opening of the borders to let those damn foreigners in from Canada and who knows where.
Assuming that no voters in the US really want that, H1b visas provide an inconsistency within the existing framework of immigrations laws by effectively favoring foreigners over U.S. Workers.
I actually do want that, so "no voters" isn't the case. Not enough voters, I could buy.
But since you don't favor a free market for labor why did you ask if we do while saying that it should be disallowed?
All degrees are not equal. That is the problem (Score:5, Interesting)
The root cause of the problem, the loop hole that allows Indian IT companies to ship thousands of ill educated sub-standard programmers to USA is this: USA recognizes all degrees from India as though they are the equivalent of US college degrees. But sayin ALL graduates from St Mary's College of Engineering, Middle of Nowhere, Some State, India are equal to the graduates from UCLA or MIT is just bonkers.
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Why can't the companies decide wether it's worth it to hire someone who graduated in India instead of MIT?
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Why can't the companies decide wether it's worth it to hire someone who graduated in India instead of MIT?
They should, but the immigration system should not have this loophole in it that BENEFITS foreign workers over U.S. workers, and makes it easier for companies to hire foreign workers.
Don't we believe in the free market anymore?
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Why can't the companies decide wether it's worth it to hire someone who graduated in India instead of MIT?
They should, but the immigration system should not have this loophole in it that BENEFITS foreign workers over U.S. workers, and makes it easier for companies to hire foreign workers. Don't we believe in the free market anymore?
If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
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If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
True! But this is where the politics comes in. A truly free market would require the elimination of all immigration laws, and opening of the borders to let those damn foreigners in from Canada and who knows where.
Assuming that no voters in the US really want that, H1b visas provide an inconsistency within the existing framework of immigrations laws by effectively favoring foreigners over U.S. Workers.
Re:All degrees are not equal. That is the problem (Score:2)
If you believe in the free market, you support allowing companies to hire from any country. Government restrictions on who is legally allowed to work for whom is the opposite of a free market approach to labor.
True! But this is where the politics comes in. A truly free market would require the elimination of all immigration laws, and opening of the borders to let those damn foreigners in from Canada and who knows where. Assuming that no voters in the US really want that, H1b visas provide an inconsistency within the existing framework of immigrations laws by effectively favoring foreigners over U.S. Workers.
I actually do want that, so "no voters" isn't the case. Not enough voters, I could buy.
But since you don't favor a free market for labor why did you ask if we do while saying that it should be disallowed?