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Linus Interview 113

For New York City /.'ers, Linus Torvalds is on WBAI, 99.5 FM, starting right now, midnight, Feb. 9-10. The program lasts 90 minutes, but I don't know how long Linus will be on. Apparently it's a call-in type show. If you're unlucky enough not to live in New York, there's a RA stream of the radio broadcast available at http://www.wbaifree.org/.
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    He confessed that he didn't do a damn thing when it came to Linux. He renamed command.com and put it out on the 'net as a joke, and it just sort of snowballed from there. Whoda tunk it? Ya dumb turd, you.
  • Having a helluva time trying to connect... ping shows a good latency without drops, but it just spins on 'connect'...

    Ah well. Hopefully someone'll record it and post an archive.

    --
    rickf@transpect.SPAM-B-GONE.net (remove the SPAM-B-GONE bit)

  • Sheesh... tell me about it.

    Which brings an interesting point. How relevant to our lives is this everyday news. This dude is ranting about Hillary Clinton being accused of supporting drugs. Who cares?

    I've stopped watching TV, and rarely read any other news site but Slashdot. The reason being is that most news is irrelevant. My life is really more affected by RedHat's next purchase than it is by whatever Hillary Clinton's drug policy is. So why pay attention?

    Unfortunately, my apathy makes me less active in politics than I should be. Perhaps we need a slashdot forum where /. readers analyze various candidates and their stand on technical issues.
  • by cout ( 4249 )
    All I hear is music, and what's with this message?

    Cannot find 'file:///Lacie 4400/Desktop Folder/Desktop Folder/WBAI/index.html
  • Before people start flaming away, please note that this is clearly meant to be a satire, and not an actualy post from VA Linux.

    Note:
    1. The use of Slash-dot instead of Slashdot
    2. The use of Captain Taco instead of Commander Taco.
    3. The statement that in "90% of cases" Rob will retain editorial control.

  • The message is definitely offtopic, but is it authentic? I checked and this is the only message the user "VA Linux Systems" has posted in the past few weeks.

    Freaky, eh?
  • There was a Kevin Mitnick [freekevin.com] interview on this station last night for at least a half hour. Quite well done, really - the show's host didn't take everything Mitnick said at face value and did get Mitnick to mention from time to time that he'd done something wrong. They exposed both sides of the story (and this is a really complex story). I look forward to the Linus set.

    Of course, WABI-Host is now talking in hushed tones about George W. Bush's potassium chloride addiction. *groan*

  • by whydna ( 9312 )
    isn't WBAI the station that 2600 uses for Off the Hook... i wonder if they're gonna have a copy of this... probably not... it isn't about kevin... =)

    -DNA

  • I finally got jacked in, and what I'm hearing doesn't sound at all like it's leading to a Linus interview. The jock is whispering about whether the music played at Hillary Clinton fund-raisers encourages children to masturbate, and whether George W. Bush's favorite drug is cocaine or potassium chloride. He's now playing an old Billy Joel tune. It's at least good to hear that the Pacifica station in NY is as wacky as KPFT here in Houston. Rock on, dudes. I'm hanging in there for Linus.

    --Jim
  • (Announcer) Okay, on Line 4 we have Ted, whats your question for Linux Torvalds, Ted?
    (Caller) Hey Linus! so how do ya Install this Linux thingy?
    (Linus) I'm afraid that'd take some time to explain on the air, try www.linux.org
    (Announcer) Okay, next caller. Ted.
    (Caller) NATALIE PORTMAN! HOT GRITS! OPEN SOURCE OR DIE! *click*
    (Announcer) My, that was strange, okay.. this one better be good, Bill from.. Redmond.. gee thats strange isn't it, anyways your question caller
    (Caller) Hello Mr. Torvalds, your so called open-source movement will be crushed by my company. The benefits of Windows over Linux are numerous, in fact, our new security measure we like to call SBID (Secruity By Increased Downtime) beats anything Linux has. Prepare to be assimilated. Oh, hold on.. it appears I have a call on the other line from.. oh.. Janet Reno... hmmm..
    (Announcer) Heh.. heh.. thats all the time we have tonight, tune in tommorrow night for another call-in session with Linux Torvalds, the man behind Linux.

  • I tried firing up the show, but that guy on there was just getting on my freaking nerves.
    Maybe someone should pass that guy a joint. He keeps going on about them like he's jonesing for one.
    Is this the marijuana show or something on computers? And as I type I wish this guy would a-shut a-the a-hill a-hup.
    Cocayne? What the heck is Cocayne? Speaking of executions... someone stick a fork in this show.

    Forget it. Someone relate what Linus said later.
    I can't listen to this jackass.
    Digital Wokan, Tribal mage of the electronics age
  • The first time you go to a site that didnt work in linux, (icravetv in my case), the windows version says the same, and then it offers to download updated codecs, after that it works again, I suspect its that extra banner stuff that isnt supported in the linux version.

    Someone said the windows version worked under WINE though, havnt tried myself.
  • if you're wondering it's starting now at 12:45

  • I'm just out of range, can anybody in the area let us know what "godly" things the great linus says? I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks

  • Yeah, 2600 uses [2600.com]WBAI [wbai.org]. Honestly, though, why should they have a copy of this program on 2600's site [2600.com]? This isn't their program -- it's apparently called Earthwatch. [I live in New York, so I can listen without RealPlayer. Now to see if anyone has anything interesting to say. Doubt it.] Oh, for the record, Emmanuel Goldstein, publisher of 2600 and host of the radio show, has been working on the DVD fight, not just Mitnick (though he did have a 45-minute interview w/ mitnick this week, so he didn't talk about DVD much).
  • No, it isn't a digital stream, if you're listening from wbaifree.org. It says on the site that it isn't. And, yes, this guy is very strange, even over actual radio waves.
  • Yup, nothing more, nothing less. No new, or rehashed, words from Linux himself. Just a nutty host muttering about drugs, capital punishment, open source, and Billy Joel's "Captain Jack." I was gonna record the show for people not in the area, but, sorry, folks, it ain't worth it.
  • Hmmmm....

    That sounds suspiciously like the keynote Linus gave at Linux World Expo last Wednesday. I was under the impression that this was a live interview.

    Linus is a good speaker; he disarms you with his humility, and is quick to point out when he doesn't know something or someone else would be more qualified to answer. However, when hit with a question he feels is appropriate to answer, he can give it to you with both barrels.

    "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
  • /. trolls seem to be a step up on the evolutionary ladder than your average under-bridge dwelling troglodytes. Quite a bit more creative too, and annoying.
  • well, i can't get unix realplayer to work, just as well, time for bed....


    nmarshall
    #include "standard_disclaimer.h"
    R.U. SIRIUS: THE ONLY POSSIBLE RESPONSE
  • It uses version "7 basic" of realplayer

    Where did you find that out? It says "5.0 or higher" on the website.
  • by jfunk ( 33224 ) <jfunk@roadrunner.nf.net> on Wednesday February 09, 2000 @07:05PM (#1289968) Homepage
    I just tried to listen in and the G2 Alpha (Linux) claims that there is no renderer for the file type.

    5.0 or higher, huh? Anybody else getting this?

    Does this mean I have to downgrade? That's sort of moronic.
  • why do these ppl use that ra shit instead of mp3?????

  • I've been getting this with a LOT of content lately.... And I dont really know why. I got it with icravetv just before they shut down, but it worked the week before.

    Only thing I can say: Real, get off your asses and update this year old alpha already!

    -- iCEBaLM
  • That's what it was... nice for those of us who heard it now after not hearing it then... No live interview...
    Ok 10 year olds back to turding and hot grits! isn't there an aol chat room somewhere for this kind of stuff?
  • by gutterface ( 61662 ) on Wednesday February 09, 2000 @08:28PM (#1289972)
    Really rough notes, hopefully someone will fix it up and fill the gaps. THis was my first time hearing him. Thought he was really quite funny.

    Asks how many are linux users and how many just wandered in the street.
    Doesn't like to talk, he's a programmer.
    Been forced to be the poster boy of linux.
    forced to OSS, should be Stallman

    doesn't like softball questions,
    no questions, slideshow
    geared his speech to wall street, all the audience linux users

    fragmentation is bogeyman of unix, when is linux fragemnation...
    infighting between unix vendors, instead of improving code
    lost the market

    fragmentation is not so bad [good vs bad fragmentation]
    -linux succeeded in supercomputer, to small and feeble [computers]
    -succeeded in internationalization

    supercomputers look like fridges
    linux runs on supercomputers and fridges
    talks about a web browser on a fridge, prevents people from getting people fatter
    fragmentation allows supercomputer linux vendors and fridge linux vendors

    everyone saying java is dying [missed why he said that]
    modularity, modularity, modularity
    bad fragmenation: technical fragmentation
    don't improve fridge linux, improve the base linux
    linux is anti-fragmenting, forces everyone to live together, even if they don't want too
    community, community, community: forces companies to go to great lengths to avoid looking bad
    in front of the community

    more high-brow values? not a clash between community and companies... companies have values (the
    better ones) linux is not supposed to be anti-commercial... pt of linux, nice to use and control
    what they're using.... every good company should do this cuz of happy customers

    exchange of ideas has worked in science (end of shamanism), should work for comp.sci
    programs written by shamans, now a better system

    technology for technology sake isn't very good, lose sight ... commercial community brings
    another perspective ... linux was good technology, interesting, but not very good... vendors
    have helped linux become a system people want to use

    much of the work done is in userland... prettier, easier to use, linus hasn't worked on it, he doesn't
    know pretty if it hit him on the head

    new devices, new bugs, commercial people do the boring stuff
    talked about the "development kernel" so it took long to make it productized
    doesn't want to be long between releases

    linux 2.4 next version of kernel:
    balance between servers and small computers
    pre-phase, going back to California and start pre 2.4
    only bug fixes, expects to take a few months

    filesystem, infrastructure reworked - scaling
    "got asses kicked on some benchmarking"
    some mobile stuff/transmetta and making linux friendlier to these

    3-d stuff for supposedly CAD, really for games

    Audience questions:
    Q. some cable magazine guy: linux on settops, cable a major player for linux?
    A. was not a fan for special applications, but now realizes that special applications (doing
    one thing) is the way to go. Linux is suited because of modularity and open source
    though his crystal ball is broken for last 9 yrs
    open model is good for embedded devices

    Q. linuxsecurity.com lack of journaling filesystem and the different standards
    A. wonderful world of standards! 2 filesystems that are production quality, vendors are already
    ... let them battle out, often it's timing (perfect)... standards should be driven by market
    forces

    Q. Bruce Perrens, he wants to play DVD
    A. doesn't like the dvd situation; DVD wants to control the market by locking them
    ... hopes they lose the court case, he watches dvd himself
    out of the technical people's hands

  • Yeah, I sure hope to hell he gets on soon, because I'm bored shitless.

    This is annoying enough to turn me Republican.

    A great, now I'm listening to a crappy sounding version of some lame song I don't care about. You'd think they could at least kill the noise. This is a digital stream, isn't it?

  • Finally announced Linux, but we have to sit through another lame-ass song. I had my hopes up when he talked about playing a song about masturbation, but rather than playing the classic "I touch myself", he plays some moldy off-topic Doors song.

    This stuff is making me cranky. (There needs to be a -1, cranky moderation option.)
  • For those who missed it, don't be bummed. It was just a rebroadcast of the keynote.
  • Did anybody make an archive of the interview, for those of us who did not hear about this until far too late? Otherwise, the only way I can hear the interview would involve pissing off Dr. Einstein.
  • Hey, I'm totally the same way. I have nothing to contribute when people are talking about 'current events' because I don't even know what the hell is going on in the world (except when it's tech related).

    It bothers me that I'm even *less* knowledgable than the average American when it comes to this (how sick is that?), but a great site to brush up on your political issues is www.govote.com. I'm not a shill for this place, but it's great cuz it tells you exactly what politicians stand for and can match you to a candidate based on your interests. Straightforward stuff. Really educational if, like me, you're politically inept.
  • I think it's time to convince radio ppl to use stream mp3 instead of realaudio format.

    I've been recording Pacifica radio shows in mp3 (for personal use) since last year. 1 hour long show in 32 bit 44100 hz goes down roughtly 14 MB.

    I heard from radio hosts that realaudio has been sending people to radio stations to help them get online. Anyone familiar with these offereings?

  • What can he tell us that we don't already know? Is Linux going in a new direction? What does it matter that he'll be on the radio if he's not going to tell us anything new?


    ---
  • For us? Probably nothing new. Linus has been interviewed a lot, and most of us Linux geeks have read most of the interviews. He'll probably be asked the same old questions that he's always asked.

    And of course, he'll shoot back the same witty answers he always does, especially 'world domination'. Oh well. At least Linux is getting some coverage on the radio, bringing it to some people who've never heard of it. Perhaps it'll spark an interest in some. One can only hope.

  • I'm getting it also with my G2 player on a P200mmx, on Caldera 2.3. That really sux.
  • For all of you that hadn't listened, all they did was play Linus' keynote from last weeks Linux Expo, New York. While I liked the keynote, I was pissed for obvious reasons that what I listened to was not exactly a live interview. IMHO michael should get his facts straight next time.

    --------
  • Now the stream's going to be constantly saturated for the entire program. Thanks guys. Way to use your head. Jesus.. why not make a COPY of the stream, and mirror it somewhere for later downloading?
  • Except they aren't. Only re-transmission and copying of copyrighted MP3s is illegal.
  • It's ironic that the interview of the man who brought us Linux can't be played on Linux. At least, not on architectures other [linuxppc.org] than the x86. And they do exist! [apple.com]

    Ah well. Maybe an mp3 will be available sometime? *cough* :-)

    John
  • It's now 47 minutes into the show. and this DJ is SHIT! He's done a couple cheap political satire bits. he's currently singing about masturbation. BUT NO LINUS?! Ugh. Was this a goof? A hoax to get us listening or what? Off the Hook is on this station?! I'll be damned if I'm ever gonna listen to it again. This station SUCKS!

    -
    "There is no off position on the genius switch." --Dave Letterman
    -
  • Slashdot should check up on their shit before they post it. It's not Linus. It's crap. If you can't get a download stream, just read their schedule at http://www.wbai.org/ [wbai.org] and notice that linus in not mentioned. If these chumps had him, they would have it all over their page. Roblimo really screwed the pooch on this one.

    sludg-o
  • Um, I meant Michael really screwed the pooch on this one.

    sludg-o
  • You are saying that if a file is using mp3 compression then its illegal??? I sure hope you are a lawyer -- check out how Microsoft has encoded the sounds in Age Of Empires 2:

    BASH.EXE-2.02$ pwd; ls
    /games/Age_Of_Empires_2/Sound/stream
    BRITISH.MP3
    BYZANTIN.MP3
    CELT.MP3
    CHINESE.MP3
    COUNTDWN.MP3
    FRENCH.MP3
    GOTH.MP3
    JAPANESE.MP3
    LOST.MP3
    MONGOL.MP3
    OPEN.MP3
    PERSIAN.MP3
    RANDOM.MP3
    SARACEN.MP3
    TEUTON.MP3
    TOWN.MP3
    TURK.MP3
    VIKING.MP3
    WON1.MP3
    WON2.MP3

    START THEM LAWSUITS !!!!
  • I had filtered out micheal from slashdot because of his stupid paranoid rants, and now he goes and posts something useful and I almost miss it. Micheal please do us a favor...if you're going to post crap like "the DoS of Yahoo! was a government conspiracy!" and "John Carmack is violating your civil rights!", then please pass on useful information to another poster so we don't have to deal with your crap in order to hear Linus.

    -W.W.
  • oh never mind, it was just a keynote broadcast. I guess I can just turn Michael back off because he's proven himself to be a moron once again. A note to CmdrTaco: get this guy off slashdot as soon as possible, he's an embarrassment.

    -W.W.
  • Thanks for letting me know I was just about to go to bed! Good thing I didn't... :) -\.
  • Check out the trailing "." in the name... CT, please nuke this troll!!
  • The jock is whispering about whether the music played at Hillary Clinton fund-raisers encourages children to masturbate, and whether George W. Bush's favorite drug is cocaine or potassium chloride. He's now playing an old Billy Joel tune.

    I am in NYC, I caught the 1 AM to 1:30 AM portion, until the DJs came on schpieling their Radio Jock yammerings. *ugh* No announcement that the scheduled aired portion was ending for the station. Torvald was cutt off in mid-sentence, he was answering questions from the floor. There appered to be a huge audience. This was no radio interview, it was a broadcast of a lecture soemwhere.

    When the over the air radio broadcast was cut off I turned on my gf's Real Player 6.x on her Win95 machine. The station's Web site read RA 5.0 needed at the minimum, we met that. Then the player would not play unless I d/l a 4 MB plug-in. F**k that!

    I hate RA, that dang thing is always REQ that plugings be installed, it came with Netscape 4.5, it's had half a dozen plugins installed over time and it ,ost of the time it won't work unless more and more of them are added. Am I the only one who hates to use Real's player for this reason??

    BTW, LT did touch on the question of which journaling FS will win out: ~let the market decide~ is what he said.
  • You've pretty accurately highlighted the 1 to 1:30 AM portion I heard broacast. Moderate up.
  • How did we start talking about topless?
    Did I miss something?

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  • > Only re-transmission and copying of copyrighted MP3s is illegal.

    Unless you have the express written consent of Major League Baseball.

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    That's when it all began
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