Muppets Sold 134
Anonymous Coward writes, "Munich-based EM.TV and Merchandising AG has bought the Jim Henson Company for $680 million. They say that they won't mess with the Henson Co.'s "creative independence," thankfully. Now, if they'd just start running the old Muppet Shows again..."
Kermit The Frog? (Score:1)
Hello, Kermit the Frog here, I've just been bought!!!!!
No more "tickle me elmo", now it's "Tickle me merger"...
More demented ramblings from an Oregon geek.
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Creative independence? (Score:1)
So are EM.TV and Merchandising AG execs going to be appearing on The Muppet Show with excessively high karma?
Movies...? (Score:1)
Who am I?
Why am here?
Where is the chocolate?
From the gallery... (Score:3)
"What's that?"
"The channel!"
"O-ho-ho-ho-ho!"
Man, I miss regular doses of Statler and Waldorf...
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coming next week... (Score:3)
personally, i can't wait.
-hemos.
Reruns are on cable (Score:4)
Everyday at ~5 pm EST, they've old ones on.
Old Muppets Rerun (Score:1)
"HIIIIIIIIIIIIIII YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
-Ms. Piggy
Jim (Score:1)
Farscape? (Score:2)
Re-runs (Score:1)
-l
The Muppets are in re-runs (Score:1)
It used to be a religious channel, but got bought out by Hallmark and Henson productions and now shows uplifting movies, Muppets, Alf re-runs and other family friendly fare.
-Jesse K.
sweedish chef? (Score:1)
anywho....
disney really didnt understand what to do with that franchise... The muppets were adult entertainment that masqueraded as children entertainment...
Maybe the new groupl will be able to recapture the old magic...
Of course... Since Henson is dead, Kermit will never sound the same...
The Muppet Show is on Cable in US (Score:1)
Alice Cooper on Muppet Show.. (Score:2)
Re:Jim (Score:3)
Jim Henson died in 1990 of pnemonia, right about the time Jim Henson Productions became 0wned by disney. And yes, the "new" muppets (i.e. pretty much everything since) has not had quite the same quality. his son has taken over the voice pretty well, the people around him have tried to carry on his style, but still there's a certain life to the muppets that died with Jim Henson. There was a level of depth to the "old" muppets that the people in charge now have trouble capturing. Which is why everything sense has had an extreme hit-or-miss quality, and why all the muppets stuff in the last ten years has stayed rather static-- they can try to emulate Jim's old style, but they can't change style the way Jim could. This is why you've seen _nothing_ from the muppet group in the last ten years coming close to the breathtaking innovation/novelty/creativity/what's-the-word-i'm
"a year or so ago.." bleaugh.
Re:Kermit The Frog? (Score:3)
Elmo. I saw some Elmo muppet movie last night (kids had control of the remote) and wondered if that same doofus that destroyed my memories of Inspector Gadget with that bomb of a movie made this Elmo movie too. It was just plain mean spirited and supposed to be funny. I remember when the muppets were just plain weird and one never knew what to expect. It was exciting. Now, we get to watched stuffed animals beat up on eachother.
I guess times have changed and now we have things like the shoot-me-up-Elmo doll cartoon to reflect the crap we get from the movie studios.
Merger (Score:2)
Re:Jim (Score:3)
Jim died in the early 90's (I don't remember the date, but I remember what I was doing when I found out.) of some kind of lung infection. (Varying stories have been aired, however the most common is an advanced strep infection in the lungs). This was right during the aborted Disney/Henson merger. In the end it became a strategic alliance that has produced some pretty cool shows (Bear in The Big Blue House.).
The following is my opinion:
While the Muppets are not at the same level that they were when Jim was alive, they have put out some very good movies in the last few years ("Muppet Treasure Island", "Muppet Christmas Carol" and most recently "Muppets From Space" (my fav. one since Jim died).).
While it was a very sad day for muppets fans, Jim did want the muppets to go one after him. Citing their father's memory, his family pulled out of the merger deal (Disney refused to give them creative control if I remember right, I'm sure someone will correct me). And the muppets have been Jim-less for nearly a decade. But just like Disney with out Walt, or any organization with a dreamer at it's core it is very hard for the organization to carry on with the wild-eyed enthusasism(sp?) the dreamer brings.
(And doing a pretty good job too! Again, just my opinion)
Sorry my thinking is so disorganized, it's been a rough day!
RobK
"Someday we'll find it...."
Re:Jim (Score:2)
Re:Jim (Score:2)
Re:Farscape? (Score:1)
Re:Kermit The Frog? (Score:1)
Re:Jim (Score:1)
From the Dead People Server [dpsinfo.com]:
Jim Henson (puppeteer) -- Dead. Bacterial pneumonia. Died May 16, 1990. Born Sep 24, 1936. (Father of the Muppets, voice of Kermit and Ernie.)
Re:Re-runs (Score:1)
If it was on my cabel provider (TCI^h^h^hAT&T Cable in PDX) then I would tape it and then edit out the commercials and archive it
Although it would be nice if they had Muppet Show DVDs.
Muppets kick Ass!
(Especially Ms. Piggy)
Re:Farscape? (Score:2)
Slightly offtopic, but does anyone else here think Rygel looks like a hideously failed attempt to cross-breed Yoda and Beaker?
Keith Russell
OS != Religion
Well actually they do.... (Score:1)
Re:Alice Cooper on Muppet Show.. (Score:1)
My favorite skit was always the couple who could never get through a song without something bad happening to them.
Re:coming next week... (Score:2)
Ah, run for the woods.
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
I thought the Disney Channel was making new shows? (Score:1)
G, B, M, C. (Score:1)
Meaning...new episodes of Sesame Street will contain post-production digital billboards painted onto buildings, the street, and Oscar's trash can. Access to a market is nothing to a media company if it isn't exploited.
Re:sweedish chef? (Score:1)
Bert, Ernie, Elmo, Oscar The Grouch, Big Bird, Snufflufagus, etc... are children's entertainment through and through.
I want my Muppet Muppet (Score:2)
I wonder if anyone else have had such thoughts and managed to find any.
Re:Reruns are on cable (Score:1)
Best one I saw in a long time was when the Swedish Chef was 'teaching' how to boil a lobster. After a bunch of rambling on, 2 or 3 muppet lobsters busted in on the Chef, wearing masks and holding guns. They started shooting up the place, rescued the to-be-boiled lobster, and left the Chef in his classic befuddled "Duhee?!" look. Truly classic. Gangster muppet lobsters.
And go figure I appreciate The Muppet Show tons more now than I did when I was a kid.
Disney and the muppets? (Score:1)
Anyhoo, my question is, what happens to the Muppet's 3-D Adventure in MGM Studios at Walt Disney World? Do we think EM is going to ask Disney to close it? Personally, I think they should expand the Muppet section of MGM. Don't you think a log-flume ride themed after Muppet Treasure Island would rock?????
Muppets _is_ on TV! (Score:1)
The Muppets is on every afternoon on Odyssey, at 4 pm. At least, it is here in NM. We just recently found this out. Harry Belafonte was on it just the other day. Awesome. =)
Alice Cooper + Muppet Show = Warped Childhood (Score:1)
Thanks Jim!!!
if only (Score:4)
The show really wasn't very developed enough though. They were just going out and experimenting, trying to see if they could hit anything that worked. You could tell they were trying really hard, but they didn't always pull the show off the way it should have been. And ABC didn't give them a chance to experiment until they got it right; they pulled the show after about a half a season, and it never got developed to the point where it fufilled its potential. I dunno. There was some kind of rumor floating around that a second season was made but only shown in Hawaii or something wierd like that, but i never found out what was going on with that..
It would be nice if they could somehow recapture the spirit that made everything Jim Henson did so wonderful-- the kind of creative, almost-edgy, almost-dangerous feel to everything he did that what he was doing had never been done before. Whatever else you may have to say about the Muppet Show or early Sesame Street or any of his movies, the fact is you were never quite sure what was about to happen.
As opposed to, say, Muppets in Space, where you could tell _exactly_ what was going to happen, and nothing was unpredictable. That was just sad. Muppet Treasure Island/Christmas Carol was more or less ok, as if the people working on it were violently trying to honor Jim's memory with something wierd, but Muppets In Space felt more like they were burying Jim.. the whole movie just seemed hollow, empty, on autopilot. LIke the soul and the mind of the Muppets were dead but the body was still moving. The hamster was gone but the wheel was still spinning.
i want to see them go back to unpredictability.. i'd like to see something truly different from the muppet franchise again. I'd like to see something as mold-breaking as Labyrinth or Dark Crystal was come out of JH Productions again.. i doubt i ever will.
Really they ought to hire the people who did Sifl and Olly.. -_- That was probably the coolest, most funny thing i've ever seen on a television. And they definately have Jim's wierdness down.. -_-
"cindy crawford's taking off her robe..!!!" <---if you can identify where this came from, give yourself a cookie.
-mcc-baka
Five to one, baby, one in five.. no one here gets out alive, now
The website (Score:2)
http://www.odysseychannel.com/
Re:I want my Muppet Muppet (Score:1)
Re:Farscape? (Score:3)
They liked it so much that when Star Wars: Episode II came in and took over the Fox Studios Australia lots where Farscape was filmed, all the Farscape sets where moved, at considerable expense to a new studio for the second season. That's how well the series has done. (It's also the highest rated show on the Sci-Fi network, which is also good news.)
(OT) Ha! Another Trianglian! (Score:1)
Ya, that's what SHE said
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
Re:Jim (Score:1)
Re:Farscape? (Score:1)
I'd never thought of him that way, but now that you mention it...
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Re:Farscape? (Score:1)
I recently got the Sci-Fi channel and I'll be damned if Farscape hasn't significantly improved since the last time I saw some episodes over the summer.
Finally a show with aliens that don't all look like people in rubber suits. Finally a show with some fresh ideas unlike recent Star Trek series. Granted its not as cool as Crusade was, but its still damn cool.
Re:if only (Score:1)
New show thoughts (Score:1)
Muppets Theater 3000
Waldorf and Statler(?sp) do a MST2K/3K approach to modern entertainment shows.
Re:G, B, M, C. (Score:2)
Do you think they might actually start making, gasp, products with the muppets on them? No say it isn't so.... I always thought JHP was a charity...
</sarcasm>
Kermit says... (Score:1)
Es ist nicht einfach, zu sein grün. [altavista.com]
Re:(OT) Ha! Another Trianglian! (Score:1)
The Triangle: we just wish Cary wasn't there.
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A really awesome muppets website (Score:1)
BLASPHEMY!!! (Score:2)
What do you mean "relaxed"?? Why were you expecting this to be relaxed? Weren't you paying attention a couple months ago during the "who's your favorite muppet" poll [slashdot.org]? that's the most heated, impassioned discussion i've seen on slashdot yet. : D There are _strong_ feelings around here on this subject; you best watch yo' step, homeboy
-mcc
"my belly button blew up!"
Re:Alice Cooper on Muppet Show.. (Score:2)
In an interview with Henson that I saw some many years ago, he alleged that just about every personality of consequence was lining up at the door to get a shot at being a guest star, so much so that they were having to turn away some pretty big lights for entire seasons.
The Alice Cooper one was a good one, truly very very strange, but the show that most sticks out in my mind was the Star Wars 'crossover' with Luke, C3PO, R2D2, and if I recall correctly, Mark Hammill also appearing as himself. Angus McGonnagle the Argyle Gargoyle -- THAT was good humor, folks.
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They weren't SOLD... they were optioned in Germany (Score:2)
The Jim Henson Co. also has production agreements with the American cable company Odyssey Channel, Capital Cities/ABC and Sony's Columbia Tristar Home Video in the home video arena.
I remember the big hoopla when Disney optioned them, and ran a "Muppets in Epcot: Epcot Becomes Almost Interesting" special.
This company has a major investment in Odyssey, which unfrotunately isn't on my cable network. I do, however, get Disney, and "Muppets Tonight" is a really good, high-quality, true-to-the-original show.
Re:coming next week... (Score:1)
Kermit Buy Out (Score:1)
the slashdot connection (Score:1)
gripes about slashdot
and why are they always snide?
slashdot is funny
and sometimes just punny
but slashdot has nothing to hide.
trolling and flaming are part of the treasure,
though they're just moderated down.
someday we'll find it
the slashdot connection
andover, va linux, and me.....
I'll tell you why... (Score:2)
Re:Alice Cooper on Muppet Show.. (Score:1)
Arg.
Do a search for muppet on napster, you get some mighty interesting results.
Re:Kermit says... (Score:1)
Remember, to paraphrase Mark Twain, you dive into a German sentence and emerge with the verb in your mouth at the other end.
Uwe Wolfgang Radu
Re: Kermit says... (Score:1)
Ben
Re:coming next week... (Score:2)
I wAtCH tHe PlACe WhILe tHe MaSteR iS aWAy.
Re:They weren't SOLD... they were optioned in Germ (Score:2)
Complete press release is here [henson.com].
Muppets and DVD ? (Score:1)
Re:Alice Cooper on Muppet Show.. (Score:1)
It was great! All the "monster" muppets were fawning all over him like he was a god. They followed him everywhere he went and he always acted a little uncomfortable (intimidated?) around them.
God I miss Jim Henson.
-tim
Re:Jim (Score:2)
As for Bear in the Big Blue House...well it's strictly for toddlers. But it has such a cozy feel to it that I can't help watching if one of the kids has it on. The bear is somehow friendly and invitingly cuddly - yet without being cloying like "Barney" which by contrast always makes me want to puke. More than that, it makes me want to kill something. Something big and purple.
For the record, I'm also a fan of "Blue's Clues"
Did you want to know all that? No, I think not. Sorry, too tired for anything more intellectual tonight. Hard day at work and all that.
Consciousness is not what it thinks it is
Thought exists only as an abstraction
Re:You have to be kidding! Muppets?! (Score:1)
Re:Jim (Score:1)
Personally, I really dislike Whitmire's version of Kermit's voice - it's lacking a certain singsong sortof charm to it.
An update for 2000 (Score:1)
Re:coming next week... (Score:1)
It's a lot of trouble to go through to solve a problem that isn't even a problem. Personally, I find hemos. funny on occasion. Sometimes I wish he'd be the one posting the stories instead of the real Hemos
Fake id's OFF-TOPIC (Score:1)
this was posted really late in the evening here
Greetings from Munich... (Score:1)
Re:if only (Score:1)
I thought that was the Paula Abdul episode, not the Cindy Crawford one (Aoooga!)
The new series was really funny in parts, it is too bad they didn't give it a chance to thrive.
I've said it once... (Score:1)
How is this News for Nerds, or Stuff that Matters.
Re:Jim (Score:1)
Getting tired of your inflated karma so you're trying to drag it back down, eh?
Re:A really awesome muppets website (Score:2)
-- Give him Head? Be a Beacon?
Re:Reruns are on cable (Score:1)
Re: Kermit says... (Score:1)
Uwe Wolfgang Radu
Re:Kermit The Frog? (Score:1)
Kermit != Seaseme Street
Re:Jim (Score:1)
Re:if only (Score:1)
I only saw it once -- just stumbled across it really. When I saw that Garth Brooks was the host, I almost turned the channel. Glad I didn't. Too much fun.
Garth was, naturally, used in musical numbers -- but not his usual sort. He did "It's Not Unusual," as Tom Jones, complete with panty-throwing Muppets. Kermit asked him if he could do something a little more country-style, so Garth said he'd do something set on a farm, with chickens, and some fiddles, and dancing, and...
Let's just say that it was from a musical, but not Oklahoma [imdb.com].
Great stuff. I have a solid respect for Mr. Brooks showmanship now. Unfortunately, Muppets Tonight was cancelled soon after.
(I'd been wondering who owned the muppets lately...)
Re:I've said it once... (Score:1)
Ok, go out into public and annouce your love for the Muppets.
If you arn't treated like a Nerd for that, let me know where you live. I want to move there.
Later
Erik Z
PS Could be worse, at least they're not annoucing new stamps or coins series.
The problem with Muppets Tonight, and the MFS DVD (Score:1)
The other problem was just what you said, it felt like they were trying a bunch of stuff to see what would work - often they had Saturday Night Live syndrome, where a sketch would go on WAY after it stopped being funny (and would have been really funny if they had just stopped).
A few good things did come out of it though - I really liked Sal the monkey, and the King Prawn (who also provided the few funny moments in Muppets From Space). As another poster said, the Garth Brooks episode was really great, as were a few others.
I also hated Muppets From Space, I felt the same way about it you do - plus they had almost no musical numbers in it at all. If you had the misfortune to have the DVD, you could see the single worst commentary track ever produced - it was Gonzo, the rat, and some other human guy I forget in MST3K format (shadowed characters at the bottom of the screen). That sounds like a good idea but they simply could not think of anything interesting or funny to say AT ALL. It was so painful to watch and listen to, I had to turn it off after a few minutes. They should bury every copy of that movie in the same desert landfill they used to unload all the old ET carts.
The Odyssey Network (Score:1)
From the horses mouth
-J. Marvin
Re:Fake id's OFF-TOPIC (Score:1)
i gotta help out where i can.
-hemos.
Muppet shows (Score:1)
Re:The Odyssey Network (Score:1)
Re:Reruns are on cable (Score:1)
Re:Nobody gives a shit (Score:1)
Re:if only (Score:1)
What about Farscape?
EM.TV ain't German, kids. (Score:2)
garth brooks the showman? (Score:1)
"Products", as in 10 mil. tons of landfill... (Score:1)
I know a muppet... (Score:2)
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Make use of your spare CPU time!
Marky is a Muppet (Score:2)
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Make use of your spare CPU time!
Re:Muppets... (Score:1)
Chef Puppet? (Score:1)
Not the original ones of course
would be really cool, but replicas? Like a chef
puppet or fozzie? I found a place that sells
kermit but I can't find any of the other characters:( It would be neat to have a couple
puppets in the office to keep the day lively.
Mike