Ask Robert X. Cringely 188
Mr. Cringely is one of the computer industry pundits quoted most frequently here
on Slashdot. His weekly column
appears Fridays on the PBS Web site, and
almost every week's edition is submitted to Slashdot multiple times. Cringely
has been involved with personal computers almost as long as they've been around
-- he was one of Apple's first employees -- so in this field he's certainly a
"pundit's pundit" who comes by his opinions through knowledge. Please take a
look at this bio page on his site, then post your questions below. We'll
forward about 10 of the highest-moderated ones to him by e-mail over the weekend and
post the answers as soon as we receive them.
Re:3rd post (Score:1)
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does andy grove habe an intel watch (Score:1)
and what do you actualy do ?
(apart from write a 500 word essay each week(I know thats hard but that doesnt take up a whole week))
regards
john
(a deltic so please dont moan about spelling but the content)
Geek stereotyping? (Score:4)
Dotcoms (Score:5)
Competitive Practices (Score:5)
Sessions at West 54th St. (Score:1)
Sessions at West 54th St. [sessionsatwest54th.com]
I miss him.
Thanks.
Initial Thoughts (Score:3)
Early Apple (Score:2)
Commercialisation of the net (Score:4)
What do you think that the increasing commercialisation of the net is going to lead to? In particular do you think that the work the various standards bodies do is becoming increasingly ignored when it comes to what actually gets used on the net?
Most Influential (Score:2)
The WWW? The Internet? Cheap PCs? E-commerce?
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Mistakes by Today's Companies (Score:3)
Missed Opportunities (Score:5)
Basically - where do you think things zigged when they shoulda zagged?
Tell us about the early days (Score:5)
We'd like to know about the early days when R.X. Cringeley was used as a pseudonym for a gaggle of writers. Were you involved with the 'nym from the beginning, or did you join later? Who else wrote parts of those articles? Where did the source material come from? Any fun anecdotes?
Could you tell us about the early days without putting the 'nym spin on the facts? I would love to hear a single side to this story once and for all, and I consider you to be the only one who can give us the truth.
the AC
"Team" column at InfoWorld? (Score:4)
If true, how many folks were involved, and what makes you feel that the Robert X. Cringely name is one available for your exclusive use?
That certain "jenny-say-crock"... (Score:5)
Love your column, love "Accidental Empires" -- now that the fanboy part is over:
Why do the rich and powerful among the Digital Illuminati talk to you? What do you think is it about you that Bill G himself will discuss, if not his secret plans for domination, at least his thoughts about the computing community?
Whatever it is, I hope it doesn't go away!
Projections (Score:1)
You being someone that "was there" to witness the evolution of computers to what they are today, what are you thoughts on where we'll be 5, 10 and 20 years from now? will PC's go away? will voice recognition and handwritting recognition stick? will virtual reality ever make it? 3d web? wireless web? etc...
Airplanes & Computers (Score:2)
Microsoft (Score:1)
- Vice
Re:(OT: Sig) was Re:3rd post (Score:1)
A rating of 60kg is too high. At 60kg the server will speed up slightly, but return normal requests with "408 YOU SUCK" and "409 CLEANER" error codes.
I set my apache server on 30kg, personally.
Hope this helped. E-mail me for more mod_caffeine info and to get some source code.
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The obvious... (Score:5)
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What I would really like to know (Score:3)
Most underrated? (Score:5)
Your column on Homer Sarasohn [pbs.org] prompted this question.
Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:5)
PS. To moderators, asking controversial questions is NOT trolling, but good journalism! Ask Nixon!
How will software be sold? (Score:5)
It has to be asked (Score:2)
gender and technology (Score:5)
Steve Jobs (Score:1)
Is he really a power-hungry megalomaniac or a misunderstood dreamer?
What does the X. stand for (Score:2)
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Interested in the Colorado Lottery?
Read his column this week... (Score:4)
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pu lpit/pulpit20000727.html [pbs.org]
The answer is no. To quote:
It was six bucks an hour...Who knew they would be successful? I sure didn't.
Then again, you might argue that one can have a lasting effect without enjoying "success", but I will leave that debate to the Amiga enthusiasts...
I've been following this column for a while. Cringely is an interesting guy, and he has certainly been around the industry. Though periodically his essays strike me as a bit ego-centric, he also can also provide some amazing insight. He really can draw together seperate pieces of tech news in a meaningful fashion.
Also, he's been around long enough that he can pull out interesting industry anecdotes. My favorite was his description of Def Con 1. You know: back when it really was a hacker (pardon: "cracker") convention. Very interesting reading.
In summary, I highly recommend this guys column...
--Lenny
Microsoft Windows Monopoly (Score:2)
If so, do you think it is positive?
Do you think that your programs, books, and columns are similarly buoyed by this fact?
PBS already has a Cringely Q&A (Score:5)
Lashing out? (Score:5)
You are one of the few columnists out there who seems to have a clue. And I'm not saying that just because you like Linux--everything I've heard from you radiates insight (even when it's wrong). You also work for PBS, who, I assume, can't afford to pay the big bucks. Do you ever find yourself starting articles intended to spank the well-paid idiots *couch*jesseberst*cough* who spout off in commercial fora? Have you ever published any of these articles?
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Re:Better use of computers (Score:1)
What does Crypto taste like? (Score:3)
Anecdotes (Score:3)
What does the "X" stand for?? (Score:1)
I've been insatiably curious about that since the first article of yours that I read.
Hrmmm (Score:4)
The host of the three-hour documentary, "Triumph of the Nerds," is really Mark C. Stephens, one of several authors of a popular gossip column in InfoWorld magazine written under the Cringely pseudonym. Mr. Stephens, 43 years old, penned the column between 1987 and last December, when InfoWorld cut him loose. But in a case with enough twists to give anybody an identity crisis, the magazine and its parent, International Data Group Inc., sued Mr. Stephens in March for trademark infringement to block his continued use of the Cringely name.
So, Robert, are you still Mr. Stephens, or are you someone else now?
Re:What does the X. stand for (Score:3)
After viewing your program I can truley say that it was "insanely great"! As a dedicated Mac user who must occasionally serve time on a DOS machine slogging Windows95, I especially enjoyed the opportunity to learn more about Steve Jobs. However, all the computer stuff aside, I really only have two questions:
1. Is that incredibly cool '66 T-bird convertible yours?
2. What middle name could possibly begin with the letter "X"? Thank you for producing such an outstanding program...I'll certainly read the book at my earliest convenience!
Jon Holland
Mesquite, Texas
RXC> Yes, the '66 T-Bird is mine. It's a rare Q-code model with the 428 cubic inch V-8. 1966 was the only year they offered a 428 in the convertible and fewer than 600 were made. Mine has every option except the 8-track.
X stands for Xavier, my mother's maiden name.
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Alternative OSs. (Score:5)
What are your hopes for the re-emergence of a multiple-platform world? Do you view Linux, Amiga, BeOS, and others with hope?
Crystal Ball and History Lesson (Score:5)
This question has two related parts.
Based on what you've seen in the last 20+ years, what are the most important leaps foreward so far (in your humble opinion) besides the GUI and the microprocessor (too obvious)?
Looking ahead 5, 10, 20+ years, what still needs to happen to make computers more useful, powerful, widely accepted, affordable, whatever?
I guess I'm hoping for a little insight into the past (I was only born the year the Apple II was released) and some thoughts, not on where we're going, but on where we should be going.
Age (Score:1)
Re:What I would really like to know (Score:1)
Software and Computers (Score:5)
I know from looking at many contracted software packages that quality is something usually forgotten in the windows world. Badly written hard to use and usually very buggy. Do you feel at some point that companies will finally stand up for themselves and demand good software?
As for hardware, with the standars being modified so quickly will we end up back at a propriatary level again? I ask because of the splitting between amd and intel on the type of interface on the motherboard for the processor (not to mention the memory style variations happening) Will programmers end up writing towards a propriatary box/cpu do you think?
Tim Hayes
Who are the Pundits' Pundit's Pundits? (Score:5)
Dude! (Score:1)
And my final, most important question;
Tell us about your Porsche!
if it ain't broke, then fix it 'till it is!
Re:Better use of computers (Score:1)
he is, of course, wrong when he says things like "homosexuality is against nature" but it's nice to see him rant so. I think there was some kind of abuse early on, by a gay uncle or something...
Gnutella (Score:3)
What sort of revenue model do you expect to succeed?
What steps do you expect RIAA, MPAA, & others will take to try to stop it?
Will they resort to guerrilla tactics to try to dismantle the system?
Who will sue them when they do it?
Pilot Advice (Score:3)
What advice would give someone wanting to get his pilot's license? Is it worth the time? Is it worth the money?
The man who invented the mouse (Score:2)
Cringely's documentary is considered such a classic (I taped it and told people to watch the show every time it was broadcast), and could have for once given Engelbart credit for changing computer technology.
Scroll thru and check out his inventions. [bootstrap.org] Today, he lives in silicon valley and is unreconized by the millionaires who live off his achievements. Logitech has granted him some research space for inventing the mouse (yes, that thing). But nobody else seems to know of him.
Even though the documentary delved in such depth, why did it fail to include the man who made it all possible?
Even today, few people have heard of him, and it's such a tragedy.
w/m
Re:Open Crime Source (Score:1)
Journalistic Integrity (Score:5)
As a journalist, you probably have something to say about this topic.
Assuming you're aware of this recent spat between nVidia and some of the hardware-review sites on the internet, what is your take on this issue?
Should companies be held ethically responsible (I'm not saying lawsuits and fines here - I'm talking court of public opinion) for "strongarm tactics" in selecting journalists to bestow prerelease hardware upon?
Or do you think that the journalist who reviews a product should avoid conflicts of interest?
What do you think is the impact of this rather standard industry practice, and how do you think this practice could be eliminated?
if it ain't broke, then fix it 'till it is!
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:3)
PBS Budget (Score:2)
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Ethics of the computer industry (Score:1)
Ethics UBC Canada [ethics.ubc.ca]
Re:Dotcoms (Score:1)
I dunno, pehaps a business model that include
some kind of f**king chance for a profit in the third mellenium?
Re:Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:1)
Anyway, the general consensus, IIRC, was that it is difficult to trust a journalist who lies. So your question is extremely important.
More than one Cringely? (Score:2)
Can you tell us how you happened to get your 'Nom de Plume" hijacked?
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Re:Software and Computers (Score:1)
Re:What I would really like to know (Score:1)
What I would really like to know is doesn't the new CEO of HP know what Hewlett and Packard made in that garage? (They made oscillators, the HP 300, to be exact, based on Hewlett's Stanford Master's thesis. Neatest little lightbulb trick for the amplitude stabilization, if you're a circuit geek.)
When she talks about "going back to the garage", does that mean that HP is going to start making test and measurement equipment again (which they were very good at), and stop trying to be "Dell Also" (which they suck at)?
There goes my karma.
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Re:Hrmmm (Score:1)
To me, he's lost any credibility he might have had as you don't know which words are his and which articles belong to another writer.
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:1)
Why the psuedonym? (Score:2)
Build an Airplane in 30 Days (Score:1)
The rise, fall, and semi-resurrection of Apple. (Score:3)
LK
Xavier (Score:2)
I've been insatiably curious about that since the first article of yours that I read.
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Do you keep in touch with Pammy? (Score:1)
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:1)
Re:Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:1)
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:1)
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:1)
Actually, it handled 150, 300, and 450 - quite impressive for the time, as Compuserve charged the same rate for 300 and 450.
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Email address is real.
Re:Software and Computers (Score:1)
I want Further information (Score:1)
1996 PBS Interview with Cringely (Score:3)
For example, there are several people who want to know what the X stands for. His answer from the 1996 interview was: "X stands for Xavier, my mother's maiden name."
Help [206.253.208.199]
Re:What I would really like to know (Score:1)
Yes and no. IIRC, they spun off test and measurement as "Agilent", so that they wouldn't get dragged to the bottom when the rest of HP sinks (if I were in a bitter mood, I'd say "pulled below by the boiler explosion that is HP-UX", but I'm not. Oh wait, I am. Was that out loud?). Anyway, the answer to your question is: Buy Agilent, sell HP. Except for their calculators, which I still like.
Re:Geek stereotyping? (Score:2)
Pseudonms, Writers, and Tales From Beyond (Score:5)
But what does this anonymity buy you, really? Especially one that's not obviously a handle, and where your sources (and therefore your source's competition) know who you are.
Some writers use handles because what they write is simply too hot to be open. Some use handles to attract the attention of people who wouldn't otherwise be interested. But this isn't the case, here. The articles are balanced, fairly free of pointless bias, interesting in their own right and very well-done.
So, WHY?
Given prior history, who do you think will win (Score:4)
For example, is it really the games that determines the winner, the "killer app", the ease of use, the cost, the marketing, or is it the media attention. If it is one of these, what are the most important elements, IYO, in determining the winner.
And, given the
Reading material and other (Score:3)
So my question is: what do you recommend as the best reading material (books, periodicals, etc)? And how much time do you spend everyday reading them?
Do you read online news sites? If so which ones and how much?
And the question that is probably least important but the most interesting to this community is:
Do you read slashdot? If not, why not? If so, do you do it for value, or for entertainment?
Thanks
Predictions (Score:2)
So paint a picture of roughly where you think the computer/Internet industries will have moved in 5 years and how that will change the end user experience.
Who will be the dominant companies? Microsoft? Amazon? Ebay? (I know you already think Cisco will be one of them.)
Will network computers have succeeded? Will voice recognition be big? Will interactive TV turn us all into corporate drones? Give us your 5-year forecast.
Re:"Team" column at InfoWorld? (Score:2)
The Internet & the Level Playing Field (Score:3)
Specifically, do you think it's still *realistic* to take a good idea for a web service from the garage into the big leagues without $3 million in venture capital to start with, as some analysts seem to say is required?
Re:What I would really like to know (Score:2)
Fizzling bombshells (Score:3)
I hope this question doesn't sound too confrontational. I enjoy reading your column, I've just learned to treat it as entertainment rather than information.
New Technologies (Score:3)
Examples of innovation (in my opinion), were the mouse, windowing GUI, transistor, Integrated Circuit, ethernet, TCP/IP, hypertext markup(way before HTML), data compression, C, multi-user OS, etc. Okay, so in reality those were all evolutionary too, but there are certain developments that have a qualitative difference rather than a quantitative one. I'm thinking paradigm shift or inflection point.
My opinion is that many of the current "hype innovations" today are really just evolutionary and not that significant qualitatively: wireless computing, software hosting, Storage Area Networks, Clustering, Java, etc.
Which recent developments do you see as having the most lasting qualitative impact?
Back to the Dark Ages? (Score:3)
Witness Napster, CARNIVORE, and the French goverment trying to tell Yahoo what to do. Centralized authority is losing its grip on its ability to enforce policy.
How do you think this will turn out? Will we all end up being netizens in flowing white robes, or will we have to pay protection money to the "mob.net" to keep bandits and theives out of our Network Neighborhood?
Changing times.. (Score:2)
MacOS X for the Masses? (Score:2)
A new book? (Score:2)
Most Amazing Person you've met (Score:2)
Re:You need Cringely to answer this ??? (Score:2)
Timeline-Development of Artificial Consciousness? (Score:2)
Re:Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:3)
For anyone who has ever been in a graduate program, as he was, it is absolutely impossible not to know the difference between a Ph.D. and a graduate student, or between a professor and a teaching assistant. Unfortunately for him, the doctorate is not a self-certification program. His weaseling excuses are the lamest sort of self-justification for being a liar.
Now the question is, with all the RXC pseudonyms and committees going around, is this guy the liar, or just someone stuck with the same pseudonym? And why didn't PBS find a new pseudonym after this one was sullied?
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Re:Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:3)
Whether or not you value the Ph.D. has nothing to do with it; we could just as well be talking about a choirboy pretending to be a priest. I don't have any particularly high regard for priesthood, but I still know that a choirboy pretending to be a priest, and pretending not to know the difference when someone catches him out at it, is the most despicable sort of liar.
Actually, Slashdot readers who have not been in an academic environment may be excused for thinking that there is some sort of continuum from "student" to "professor", and that 98% progress is almost as good as being there. Right or wrong, it does not work that way. "PhD Student", "PhD Candidate", and "PhD" are quantum states, and "almost" is synonymous with "not". This is neither horseshoes nor handgrenades.
In his excuses for lying, RXC was counting on the fact that most people do not know how these things work. But the notion that he did not know them is ludicrous. Even undergraduates know the difference between a "professor's assistant" and an "Assistant Professor", and they regularly complain about paying full tuition for classes taught by the one and not the other.
I simply cannot buy any claim that a guy was smart enough to be accepted into the CS graduate program at Stanford, hang in there long enough to get his Masters degree, hang in there three more years working on a PhD, and still be unaware that he was progressing along a series of milestones that represented changes in quantum state rather than movement along a continuum. The fact the he cited completing his coursework and passing his oral exams tells anyone who has been there that he knew darn well what the state change between "PhD student" and "PhD candidate" is. He was just counting on the fact that the general public hasn't been there, and that he could obfuscate the issue well enough that most of the public would not spot him for the liar that he was.
But I've gone and spilled the beans, so now that part of the public that reads Slashdot can evaluate his excuses for lying on their merits. That was the point of my post. Mr. Cringely, if you are the same pseudo-Bob who did the lying and made the lame excuses, would you like to add another layer of excuses to cover for the lameness of your first layer? Or are you <Clinton>finally ready to fess up, since you can't weasel out of it anymore</Clinton>?
ps - Like TheCarp, I wonder how he would be received if he asked Stanford to let him go back and finish his degree. Actually, I think the chances of a dropout being re-admitted to a graduate program are extremely slim even without having broadly disseminated a misrepresentation of his status with the university. Still, it's an interesting question as to how Stanford feels about it, and whether it would keep him out if nothing else did.
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Storing History (Score:3)
Thanks to an AC's post [slashdot.org] about the pre-nerds faq [pbs.org], I have negated a couple of my more pressing questions, but anyway, to get on with the questions.
I know that you feel that maintaining a valid history of events in the technology world is an important goal of your life. (Or at least I was lead to believe this by most of your work, save Plane Crazy). You mention some of the raw information that you have recieved in your newest [pbs.org] pulpit article. However, you don't include links, or information on how to receive access to these historical records.
Do you have any plans to make available the raw materials you have received, either on the web, or in libraries, for scholarship, both by historians of today and tomorrow?
I understand that your shows do a reasonable job of attempting to digest this information for popular consumption, but there are always going to be people who are interested in the actual documentation of this history. Especially, when you mention a rare account of the beginnings of AOL, (Only 12 copies made!) but there seems to be no place where this information is being archived, or being made publicly available. I mean, even your own private machine collection is extreemly interesting. I'm lucky enough to have access to some of these ancient machines at a computer store near my university, but now, it's becomming more and more difficult to get access to them.
Don Armstrong -".naidnE elttiL etah I"
Re:What I would really like to know (Score:2)
Re:Has not having a PhD affected your work? (Score:2)
That's complete rubbish. You don't have a Phd until you have a Phd, and Cringley knows this. It's standard practice for Phd candidates to serve as teaching assistants. Being a TA is a long way from being a Stanford professor, which is a formal appointment within the university.
Re:Englebart is overrated (Score:2)
He was a researcher, not a software or hardware manufacturer. Dude, it was a small team that did amazing stuff and lost its funding.
As for other people doing better stuff outside SRI, can you give some details when you make such claims? It's acknowledged by patent records and archives that they were the first in this field. You can't ignore better work going on outside when there isn't any. The big demo w/ mouse+GUI was done in Dec. 1968. It was funded by univ. and govt. money, and suffered the disadvantage of being too good for its time. The grant money was yanked coz nobody felt this was of any use (remember, at that time the big thing was spending $$$ on AI, since the holy grail was a thinking, talking computer. Making personal computers useful was considered pointless).
he was better at self-promotion and grandious claims than at inventing anything concrete.
Quite the reverse. He was so bad at promoting his stuff he lost funding. As for inventing something concrete - mouse, GUI, video conferencing, groupware. These are substantiated by historical records and experts in the field. What more do you want? Magic fairies?
It's really funny how people dismiss Woz, Engelbart, etc. as overrated for not doing anything recently, or not being more successful. Shipping mediocre products successfully isn't as important as groundbreaking innovation.
Here, look at the evidence. [stanford.edu]
w/m
Twins separated at birth? (Score:2)
The resemblance is uncanny, and you both do PBS.
Rich...
Open Source as a viable daily working platform (Score:3)
Your wise words on this subject would be greatly appreciated.
Internet and and Ideology/Politics (Score:2)