Free Internet Movie Archive 109
Andy Tai writes: "In sharp contrast to the music and movie industries' attempts to control access to content, the Internet Moving Image Archive aims to keep movie content freely available to the public. It provides 359 movies online and will add 642 more. The content is encoded in MPEG2 format and can only be converted to Open Source MPEG4 formats. The content is either public domain or owned by Prelinger Archives. So come and get your free movie now!" This reminds me of Project Gutenberg - anyone else know of good repositories around the Web? Post 'em below.
AdCritic (Score:2)
Yeah but... (Score:5)
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
Well at least some guys have more sense (Score:1)
free !! (Score:1)
textfiles.com (Score:1)
Not for those lacking in bandwidth! (Score:3)
For example, the AEC movie on radioactive fallout is about 194megs for 8 minutes of film. At least they did not cop-out and put the films in an unwatchable postage-stamp sized picture.
Its against the American way of life! (Score:1)
Well some people try to use that argument for software...
Seriously though, you *KNOW* the MPAA is going to be coming down hard on them.
What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:1)
I seem to remember Xoom/Nbci [nbci.com] had some free movies on their site (free if you became a member that is).Hmm, Looks like they are gone now. I want an MPG archive of all the Marx Brothers Movies =)
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Amazing (Score:4)
Amazing.
It's 1994 again and I'm trying to view a graphics rich page on a 14.4 modem.
Thanks for the nostalgia!
--Kara
WOW! (Score:1)
Yeah, but you have to concider content too (Score:4)
The movie and music industries are trying to control attempts to download free music or videos which are still currently "hot" things. It's sort of like downloading the newest Metallica song versus downloading Mozart. One produces money for a specific artist or company, the other is available from many different sources and doesn't guarantee anyone specific money.
It's almost 2am, so I hope I made sense. On the other hand, it is a cool resource, and I guess what will really make the difference is the content of the next 600 or so additions.
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Re:Not for those lacking in bandwidth! (Score:1)
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Cultural / Propaganda archive of mid 20th century (Score:2)
There is probably a great deal of good material to be edited into some funny/creative/musical/artistic works.
The real question is, what would the same types of film from the past ten years tell someone 50 years from now?
Re:Amazing (Score:1)
the days of trn and netscape
( although i do disagree on the graphic intensive content... that really started going late '95 )
www.spunk.org (Score:1)
New worlds are not born in the vacuum of abstract
Re:Yeah but... (Score:2)
Re:A New Source for Mystery Science Theatre 3000 S (Score:1)
Right... (Score:3)
Taking the "X" out of X-Rays
ca. 1940s
Running time: 9:14
Sponsor: General Electric Company
*In Dr. Evil's voice* "Riiiiiight."
Re:A New Source for Mystery Science Theatre 3000 S (Score:2)
It's too bad. I thought MST3K rocked.
Bah! (Score:2)
Or Suggestion Box (1945), the nail bitingly suspenseful telling of "How war plant workers made suggestions that resulted in efficiency and economy".
And don't forget About Bananas (1955), the touching story about the banana industry. My eyes tear up even thinking about it.
All the big budget action flicks will never be able to withstand the awesome beauty of 1950's hygene flicks.
Re:AdCritic (Score:1)
RealPlayer doesn't work right on Mac or Windows...and the UI of RealPlayer is way, way, way worse than QT.
Re:Amazing (Score:1)
That's right. The Major Studios are going to be distributing stuff on the internet soon, and it's going to be a big deal for the movie industry in terms of revenue and business model.
Stuff like this is like 1994, and as such it's only the beginning.
"I may not have morals, but I have standards."
How ironic.. (Score:1)
Anyway, the site looks interesting enough. The files are big, to be sure. I'm downloading right now a movie [archive.org] shown to Cold-War elementary school children about atomic warfare.
My cable modem usually gets 50-100 K/sec, but I'm getting about 16 K/sec from this site. I think it's definately a candidate for several good mirrors if it gains any sort of popularity - the 10 min. movie is 246 MB.
Kick ass! (Score:1)
How about a site to convert formats? (Score:4)
For instance...as much as I like the high quality image of MPEG-2 streams, I just don't want to download them and find out they aren't in SVCD-compliant format. It's way to much work to reencode them. If they aren't ready to burn as SVCD they are just going to park on my hard drive and chew up space. If they are staying on my hard drive, I'd rather have some nice compact MPEG-4 files. Of course, since the quality on this old films probably isn't that great, maybe I would want VCD versions?
So imagine there's this site with a form. I type in the link to the file (like "http://www.archive.org/oldmovie.mpg" or anything). Then I use radio buttons to choose my preferred format (MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4, Quicktime, AVI, RealMedia...although why the hell anyone would choose that is beyond me). Last, I choose the sub-format. If I pick MPEG-1, I can choose VCD-compliant, or XVCD maybe. Or I can type in a custom width/height. I can alter pretty much anything you can do in your basic home video editor (resize, crop, basic effects).
Then I hit go. The converter site connects to the link I gave it, and starts downloading the file. If the file is streaming, it hands the processing off to the pool of servers and immediately hands me a link to the final stream. With enough hardware, this could be real time. Of course, if it isn't a streaming format, it would have to download the file and then process it and hand me the link.
Anyway, think about how cool this would be, for text documents, sound files, anything. A legally questionable extension would be, if someone requested a VCD version of a file, could the site cache that file and then offer it immediately the next time someone else requested it?
Anyone want to fund this type of venture? All we would need is a few good server farms, or a good distributed processing client.
Please discuss if you think this is a good idea and lets see if we can't get something started!
- JoeShmoe
Re:A New Source for Mystery Science Theatre 3000 S (Score:1)
eudas
Re:fp (Score:1)
-- Eat your greens or I'll hit you!
Re:AdCritic (Score:1)
Re:A New Source for Mystery Science Theatre 3000 S (Score:1)
http://brie.bmsc.washington.edu/people/merritt/
it is a truly awful sci-fi story called 'the eye of argon' as it would have been hacked to pieces by the mst3k guys, had they ever actually read it.
eudas
Lego movies! (Score:2)
Who can resist claymation for the common man, i.e. the lego film [topcities.com]? I'm quite fond of 2001: A Lego Odyssey [umass.edu].
Unfortunately, they're in Quicktime, mostly. If you're without, it's worth finding someone with a Mac or Windows to watch the better of them.
Things never change (Score:3)
Destination Earth 1956 Running time: 13:36
Producer: Sutherland (John) Productions
Sponsor: American Petroleum Institute
In this corporate-sponsored cartoon, Martian dissidents learn that oil and competition are the two things that make America great.
Change the sponsor to Microsoft and the word "oil" to software and I think I see a good promotional tool for Gates to try after the little speech yesterday from his underling...
for the sake of history (Score:5)
For example, #19585, a WWII era propaganda film on Japanese internment.
Re:How about a site to convert formats? (Score:2)
I think this type of project could actually be turned into a commercial venture. It doesn't have to be a dot-com that bleeds money and tries to throw ads at people while they download the converted file.
Convertion tools can cost hundreds of dollars. True, there are some nice free ones, but is anyone else sick of having ten different programs to do ten different file formats?
Imagine paying a fee and then having a site that can convert thousands of different files. If someone sends you a format you've never seen, sends it to the site for identification and conversion into something you can read. The first time someone gave me a
This type of functionality is easily worth $10 or $20 a month, in my opinion.
- JoeShmoe
Re:Right... (Score:3)
Or this one:
About Fallout (1955) [archive.org]
Sponsor: US Dept. of Defense
Attempt to dispel many common myths and fallacies about radioactive fallout.
All I can say is, put your head under your desk to avoid the radiation!
Places to download *good* movies (Score:3)
NICE! (Score:1)
but also some of those old Encyclopedia Brittanica flicks they showed us in elementary school!
(FWIW, I'm not even that old...I saw those wacky educational movies on *16mm film* in the mid 80s.)
God this rocks.
--K
Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:1)
Yep. Copyright law (in America, at least) applies to everything equally. So copyrights on movies do expire. But they don't expire until 70 years after the last surviving author's death. The good thing about Project Gutenburg is that so much "great liturature" was written such a very long time ago that the copyrights have long expired. Not so with movies, which are a relatively new medium. Have fun waiting around.
Re:Lego movies! (Score:1)
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Re:Things never change (Score:1)
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oh, no (Score:1)
slashdotted takes on a new meaning.
how bout REAL movies like Hannibal... (Score:1)
Umm, "Early Days"? (Score:1)
What has changed? =P
I look at your post and I see a perfectly apt description of the current state of the "web" - content I don't care for, requiring bandwidth I have no way in hell of obtaining.
Fun fun fun!!
-Kasreyn
Roger and Me (Score:2)
Achievement USA 1955 Running time: 10:45
Producer: Sound Masters
Sponsor: General Motors Corp.
General Motors celebrates production of 50 millionth automobile with a parade through Flint, Michigan.
-- juju
The time is now... (Score:4)
Turner et al have a huge stock of old films that are not making them money. They should set up a system where I pay $5 for the rights to a movie for life no matter what the media. I can download it, play it in my home, see it in a cinema etc etc VHS/DVD/VCD whatever, of course I'd have to pay duplication costs. But how long before my DVD rentals are burnt in store for $2-50?
I would gladly pay for a huge number of old out of print movies. All they have to do is provide the hardware/bandwidth.
Given that any form of encryption is breakable and that most film stock is decaying would this not gnerate huge profits for them and give the consumers what they want?
Repositories (Score:3)
If you're looking for texts, see The Open Directory's etext section [dmoz.org]. Typically, if I need similar resources for something, I enter the address of the resource that I have in dmoz.org's search engine and browse the category where they put that resource. Very useful, most of the time!
Uh.. Your missing the point.. (Score:2)
(ooh.. that sounded a bit conspiratorial..)
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When did this happen? (Score:1)
Or are you just talking out of your ass?
Cheers,
Rick Kirkland
Film archive section of dmoz.org (Score:2)
Well, post early, post often
Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:2)
I believe It used to be a set period after the creation of the work (15 years?), then it was changed to a set period after the authors death, and since then has gone from 15 years all the way to the current 70 year span. Its a shame that greed is so powerful...
Very Cool. (Score:1)
Shouldn't the famed Zapruder(SP) film be in there, or does Time still own that?
Slashdot Security Hole : 2days, nothing change (Score:1)
I submit a story about this hole 2 days ago. The hole is still there. Demonstration of this hole [mycgiserver.com]
Can somebody alert slashdot ?
If you use IE4 and IE5 you should better change your password.
Slashdot is not to blame, many web sites have this hole.
ftp server is choking (Score:1)
Re:When did this happen? (Score:2)
There is one, it's called 'QuickTime 4' and the only *NIX it supports is Mac OS X.
As for a free Sorensen-compatible player, sorry.
You can play QT files encoded with different codecs using xanim on *NIX, but Sorensen is not supported anywhere but (AFAIK) Mac and 'Doze.
--K
the anwser has been laying around all this time... (Score:1)
That's what I thought (Score:1)
Cheers,
Rick Kirkland
Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:2)
The copyright law was changed in 1992 to protect the trickle of income from movies made in the 1930s.
Of course, as this article states [asu.edu], this copyright law's unfortuante consequence is the literal decomposition of a portion of our culture before it can be preserved for future generations.
Imagine if great, but not world famous oil paintings now hanging in local museums, courthouses, etc. were left in humid cellars for a hundred years to crack and peel.
Copyright law beyond 30 years has the same net effect for great, but not still profitable film-based media. Imagine if film students didn't study Citizen Kane and Modern Times. We probably wouldn't have a surviving copy of them today. How many other great films we don't even know about have already been lost?The films on this site are not "great", but taken collectively, they are great cultural and historical repository like any of our libraries or government archives.
I think we've found... (Score:3)
Seriously, have you guys read the titles? I'll use some in a sentence: "Hi, I'm Troy McClure. You might remember me from such educational films as The Adventures of Junior Raindrop and Goodbye, Mr. Roach."
Re:Films are free 70 years after the last actors d (Score:1)
Why do you think so many movies have gratuitous baby scenes? It's not just for the "Awww, cute" factor. Then there's using multiple baby actors to play each baby used onscreen, under the guise of labor/child welfare laws. Maybe it's just a matter of playing the odds that at least one of the rugrats will live to a ripe old age. I just saw an interview with some actress in the past few days saying that they used eight (might've been six) different baby actors to portray her kid. I have no idea if what you said is true or not, but it would be a good explanation for all those damn baby actors. Oh well, at least they can act better than Demi Moore and her decrepit plastic melons...
Cheers,
These dont work (Score:1)
WOW, this was ahead of it's time! (Score:1)
Producer: Sutherland (John) Productions
Sponsor: American Petroleum Institute
In this corporate-sponsored cartoon, Martian dissidents learn that oil and competition are the two things that make America great.
Descriptors: Economics Oil industry Advertising: Animation
Couple of others (Score:1)
CinemaPop [cinemapop.com] (www.cinemapop.com for those who dare not click on links here anymore) has a lot of movies and TV classics, in both free and pay-per-view formats — and no, the good stuff isn't all confined to the PPV areas.
Filmspeed [filmspeed.com] (www.filmspeed.com) doesn't have as many (at least not that I've yet found), but I think they're all free, and quality ones, too. For download or streaming. Plus, you can download 'em to play on your PocketPC, which is always good for kicks and surprising the guy sitting next to you on a plane. The've got Fists of Fury, Nosferatu, The Man Who Knew Too Much, The Chinese Connection, A Christmas Carol, and Night of the Living Dead , among (not too many) others. Unfortunately, Night of the Living Dead isn't available for the PocketPC for some reason...
Cheers,
ova.zkm.de & orang.orang.org (Score:2)
10 days of video content contributed by the
community reachable under http://ova.zkm.de
and audio system of the same kind ist reachable
under http://orang.orang.org/
Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:1)
NBCi Classic Movies [nbci.com]
Killer Bats, Green Hell and some fun "rocket ships on bits of string" style sci-fi. All movies in streaming Realplayer format.
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Movie info: www.movie-mistakes.com/ (Score:2)
I think the Movie Mistakes [movie-mistakes.com] page is quite funny. Unfortunately when the big budget blockbusters have 115 entries, many of them are just "making of" trivia and so on instead of the hilarius Mystery Science Theatre 3000 badness that I crave. It seems that people submit more "mistakes" about famous films rather than about those really badly made films that are packed with errors of logic, continuity, special effects etc.
Also, even though I rarely buy stuff from them, I find it very fascinating to go to Amazon [amazon.com] and just click around different reviews, "page you made", user made listmania lists and so on to find good stuff I might not have heard about before. It made me interested in old movies again, I have started to collect Kurosawa on DVD and I'm currently thinking of getting La Grande Illusion, Orson Welles films, The Third Man, lots of Noir detective films. Too bad Amazon doesn't stock more foreign films.
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Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:1)
Never happen.. But not because of why you think. (Score:3)
Yet another reason to show why long copyright terms are bad.
And... (Score:2)
They make money by insuring that you do not have a choice of old public-domain videos to watch.
Sampletastic! (Score:1)
Time to start again...
This name is misleading (Score:1)
Therefore, I think their name is misleading, and should be changed.
jdv
MST3K (Score:1)
Not a good sign...
Re:How about a site to convert formats? (Score:1)
-dair
Here's a streaming video contents site (Score:2)
I happened to come across a free streaming contents site at like television [liketelevision.com] when I was trying to find An Occurrence at Owl Creek [liketelevision.com], a movie I watched in elementary school in my youth -- an excellent movie which somehow surfaced in my mind while looking at the movie archive discussed by this story.
Only problem I have with 'like television' is that I can't seem to download and save, locally, the video streams, for smooth playback later.
Re:Slashdot Security Hole : 2days, nothing change (Score:1)
If you want to alert them can't you just email them?
Re:Places to download *good* movies (Score:2)
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There are more free movie sites.. (Score:3)
Re:Movie info: www.movie-mistakes.com/ (Score:1)
Re:for the sake of history (Score:2)
Re:fp (Score:2)
and raise you a hatt-baby
http://user.tninet.se/~prv247p/hatt/hatten.swf
Re:How about a site to convert formats? (Score:1)
What are you going to pay for this service ? It's currently not possible to do this for free (just think about the HUUUUGE amount of bandwidth it would take -- not even beginning to think of the processing power required to serve a decent amount of people). If it's $2/2 hour movie I might even consider it. If the quality is good and I get to say _exactly_ what the file has to look like. If it's more along the lines of $20, well, screw you
Just look at all those disk-space providers (freediskspace, streamload, idrive, etc.)
In conclusion : a cool idea, bad prospects for my money. I'd rather have something like a rencod'o'matic to which I feed an URL and a desired format and it encodes it for me on my _own_ computer/server
Re:Places to download *good* movies (Score:1)
80 plus dance step clips at LOC (Score:1)
well there are other options (Score:1)
Re:How about a site to convert formats? (Score:1)
geeezzzz... (Score:1)
Re:AdCritic (Score:1)
Ugh. To each his own, I guess. I find the Windows Quicktime player has the worst UI of any program I've ever used. I hope the person who invented the volume "knob" was sent to bed without dinner.
Open Content Repository (Score:1)
Many of the books relate to open source software. KDE 2.0 Development [andamooka.org], GTK+/GNOME Application Development [andamooka.org] by Havoc Pennington, and The Cathedral & The Bazaar [andamooka.org] by ESR are among them.
Re:Yeah, but you have to concider content too (Score:1)
Re:Cultural / Propaganda archive of mid 20th centu (Score:1)
Re:How about a site to convert formats? (Score:1)
Linux player? (Score:1)
Ibiblio (Score:1)
"Ibiblio is a diverse and expansive collection of information on the Internet, created and maintained by the public, for the public. It is the ultimate collection of freely available information, the future of Internet librarianship, and a collaboration between the former MetaLab.unc.edu (formerly known as SunSITE.unc.edu) and the Red Hat Center for Development."
Along with a huge Linux FTP archive, it hosts a few hundred 'collections' of information off the web.
Disclaimer: I'm not entirely impartial here because I'm currently moving my website, Astrobiology: The Living Universe, to the Ibiblio servers. At the moment we're still setting it up at its new home (www.ibiblio.org/astrobiology [ibiblio.org]) and implementing a new interface. The working version is at http://library.thinkquest.org/C003763 [thinkquest.org].
Open Source Movie Making.. (Score:1)
If so, Open Sources movies would be a cool idea... I'm more of a programmer, but have a lot of Artist friends (with whom I have NOTHING in common with).
What could do more for Linux on the desktop?
-- Matthew C. Tedder
Re:Linux player? (Score:1)
http://heroinewarrior.com/xmovie.php3
"Independent films" (Score:1)
Independent shorts and animation. Some good stuff. Some awful stuff.
Corporate vs. Personally owned Copyrights (Score:2)
If a copyright is owned by a corporation, as is the case with most modern cinema, music, books, and software, the copyright term is now 95 years.
Yes, Windows 95 won't be public domain until the year 2093.
Personally owned copyrights, like those in most GPL software, and the kind savvy musicians and writers keep rather than sell, are good for life plus 70 years.
Meaning that (assuming Linus lives a long, healthy life avoiding the Microsoft Mafia) the Linux kernel v. 0.1 won't be available as public domain for a century and a half.
Live long, Linus Torvalds!
(ps: I ANAL. Oops. I mean, I Am Not A Lawyer, and so if in doubt ask an attorney.
Final clarification: Personally means owned by a human being or a group of human beings not hiding behind another legal identity. Corporate means either a formal business partnership, corporation, or other artificial person.)
Ruling The World, One Moron At A Time(tm)
"As Kosher As A Bacon-Cheeseburger"(tmp)
Re:Done by a company called Generic Media. (Score:1)
Re:Bah! (Score:1)
Re:A New Source for Mystery Science Theatre 3000 S (Score:1)
Re:How ironic.. (Score:1)
Rick
Re:What is the copyright on Movies ? (Score:2)