Scully Leaving X-Files 114
Thomas M Hughes sent us a link where Gillian Anderson announces that Sculley will follow Mulder's footsteps off the X-files after this season. (And since I'm in Germany for LinuxTag I get to post something before I usually even get up!)
Re:is this relavant (Score:1)
> better tastes in entertainment!
Why would you say that? The bulk of the Slashdot crowd are morons.
upside: more time to be naked (Score:1)
(Or should I say "backside"?) Now she can be in more (R-rated) movies where she can be naked.
Yes, I read the article where she talks about spending more time with her progeny and husband and stage acting. I'm just hoping the money runs out soon, at least before her looks do.
Re:X-Files Phenomenon (Score:1)
I remember that, when I was younger (I'm only 17 now, so this is not that long ago), Fox came out with some series that involved aliens coming to Earth (I believe they were attempting to escape another, evil species of aliens). I was convinced throughout most of its run that they were actual aliens, and that Fox had somehow obtained footage of them.
Perhaps younger children have a harder time differentiating reality and television than I thought.
Makes a bloody change.... (Score:1)
"(And since I'm in Germany for LinuxTag I get to post something before I usually even get up!)"
So when are you going to realise that a lot of readers are in Europe, and that you could do with a full-time European correspondent?
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Cancerman wasn't killed (Score:1)
He was pushed down the stairs and knocked unconscious, but Krychek didn't check his pulse to verify that he was finished off.
Similarly, we don't know whether Jeffrey Spender might resurface. He was shot, but we were never told whether he died.
Re:Buffy facing same destiny? (Score:1)
Re:Flogging a dead horse (Score:1)
Re:Geena Davis (Score:1)
Re:More contradictory articles (Score:1)
It sounds to me as if G.A. is doing the right thing for her career and her kid. It's time for X-philes and Fox to let go.
this show is still on? (Score:1)
Actually, I agree with most, the season following the movie is when the show really started going downhill. Actually it was more like it fell off of a cliff. I believe that the real slide began when they moved the set to California, but I cannot remember whether that was before or after the movie.
The show was, basically, the characters, and they should have ended it when Duchovny didn't want to come back.
Useless Fact (Score:1)
Re:Useless Fact (Score:1)
Re:Gillian Anderson, 32? (Score:1)
WOW (Score:1)
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Re:This reminds me of Sliders.... (Score:1)
I'll second this... I watched Sliders series 1-4 on UK Terrestrial TV, right up until the point where Wade's actress left and Quinn was left standing around in some strange futuristic place... then the BBC stopped showing it indefinitely.
I got cable TV some time later, and watched some of what was, it seems by your descriptions, the last series. It was terrible, it has to be said. ('Composite' Quinn Malorie?!) The thing about the batteries running out in the timer was just the last straw. Pathetic.
I continue to hope that either the BBC or Sky One will show some of the earlier Sliders episodes again so I can see the ones I missed the first time around.
So What? (Score:1)
Re:"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:1)
Damn, I must have missed that episode. I know this is starting to get off-topic, but can you give me a synopsis? Or at least an episode number, so that I can look it up? I still watch The X-Files, and I've been wondering for a long time why I haven't seen anything about his sister.
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Re:Flogging a dead horse (Score:1)
Re:Opinions please (Score:1)
- Some kind of alien comits some kind of crime.
Think that about sums it up.No one can figure out what happened.
Mulder investigates, witnesses the alien in the flesh and solves the case.
Mulder tells Scully and others.
No one beleives him, although Scully wants to beleive him.
Mulder gets suspended for being a fruit-cake.
The truth is exposed and everyone appologises to Mulder.
The end.
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Re:Flogging a dead horse - Non Sci-Fi Examples (Score:1)
Some examples of non-sci-fi resurrections:
It's not just sci-fi that has rabid fans (although I plead guilty to wanting a resurrected Doctor Who series).
Re:X-files already long dead (Score:1)
Re:Opinions please (Score:1)
Re:This reminds me of Sliders.... (Score:1)
Uh, her name is Kari Wuhrer [imdb.com]. Don't personally know who Kate Wohler [genealogy.com] might be.
Always nice to see that hard-earned +1 bonus employed to promote well-researched posts. :)
spin-off time (Score:1)
The three geeks would probably make good candidates (despite being terrible characatures).
maybe she's off to do more pvc clad spreads for FHM - great
Re:spin-off time (Score:1)
I've never seen it promoted in the UK but I'm too busy working to watch much TV so maybe I missed it
Those tv people are so totally predictable
Maybe I should become a TV consultant.
Yuck!! (Score:1)
Jeeeeeez (Score:1)
They sold it?? (Score:1)
yup.. (Score:1)
Buffy facing same destiny? (Score:1)
Thanks for the link (Score:1)
Re:"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:1)
Scully was a Bad-Ass! (Score:1)
You're kidding right? Scully kicked ass on numerous occasions. She was rarely not able to hold her own against whatever was menacing the world that particular week. There were times that she was positioned as the victim for plot reasons. Since the show was really centered on Mulder, they had to make him look like a hero every now and then by letting him rescue the person who meant the most to him, his partner.
She's weak in combat, always seeming to get her gun knocked away.
She shot everybody! Hell, she even shot Mulder once. On purpose!
I tend to agree with your analysis of her not being a partner to Mulder. But, only early on. And, this was intentional. She was origionally paired with Mulder to debunk his X-Files conclusions.
As far as the show with new agents is concerned, it may very well end up being a decent show. (I doubt it) Even if it is a fine show, it still will not be the X-Files that some of us have come to know and love. But then, I guess is hasn't for past couple of seasons either.
Scully rider... (Score:1)
Sadly Gillian hasn't returned my calls.
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Re:Flogging a dead horse (Score:1)
Apparently you've never heard of Baywatch, Dynasty, Wheel of Fortune, Tele-tubies, or slashdot.org? :)
Jason.
Re:Opinions please (Score:1)
Thank god, I thought it was just me... seems like the show has been failing to do any quality storytelling for years now.
I like Robert Patrick, a lot better than Mulder actually... but he can't save the show. Stick a fork in it... you know the rest. At least it had a few good seasons.
The truth is out there (Score:1)
dont you just love when they post a story [msn.com] about another story [sunday-times.co.uk]! The article even tells you where to find the original story.
Use the source [sunday-times.co.uk]! that goes for news as well as code.
Is it just me or are an awful lot of MSNBC stories getting posted? Keep you friends close and your enemies closer.
Re:Carter betrayed us (Score:1)
new script (Score:1)
Time to end X-Files? (Score:1)
It has been a long, nice run, but without Mulder and Scully it really isn't the same.
Re:X-Files Phenomenon (Score:1)
Perhaps you mean Weekly World News. News of the World is a gutterpress red-top from Blighty out on Sundays.
With respect to our roots... (Score:1)
Re:Trust no one... (Score:1)
The MSN Article is datelined July 4, the Yahoo story is datelined July 2, so maybe she is going, but all these stories have a certain lead time, so maybe it's still undecided...
Further, when you consider that it's becoming a well-established tradition for these actors to state they're leaving loudly and publicly, only to return after getting promised more money, better scripts, whatever, it could very well be that both stories are equally inaccurate, and that Slashdot fell for a non-news story. "Stuff that matters" indeed.
And to think of all the fascinating stories I submitted that got rejected because we weren't in the summer news-vacuum yet...
Ron Obvious
I'm confused (Score:1)
Re:Flogging a dead horse (Score:1)
Looks like it's the end... the real one (Score:1)
I guess everybody knew this would happen way back when both GA and DD were in legal issues against FOX...
And if the series still persists, everybody knows it won't be the same thing, no matter how great are the new actors. Anyone remembers Michael J. Fox leaving Spin City? Well, i guess its X-File's spin off now... the time has come, its the end.
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Re:X-Files Phenomenon (Score:1)
No, it isn't.
Maybe a breath of fresh air (Score:1)
I am actually not so displeased that she is leaving. Robert Patrick gives a rock-solid performance as Doggett(apparently I'm not the only one since he won an award for best television actor [thexfiles.com]).
The departure of Scully will hopefully allow Carter(if he wants to) to be more creative by letting loose the ties of the past. I for one will be tuning in to watch Patrick's character(Doggett) evolve. Krycek's dead, so there's one block of the whole conspiracy dead, now they just need to kill off the rest once and for all.
Re:"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:1)
I like to think the kiss was more friendship than romance, but man, the way they've been dancing around each other... yeah, I'm disappointed and feel somewhat betrayed. I'm even more amazed that they intend to carry on the show without Duchovny.
2) The Consortium alien invasion / mytharc ends (primarily) with all the main baddies getting torched in a hanger. Effectively, the threat of a "V"-like global alien invasion, which was introduced as a potential threat in the 4th season and created a palpable urgency for a few seasons following, was neutralized simply by killing off two dozen old white men that drank brandy with Cancerman.
I don't know about that. The Syndicate is dead, but that was mostly Cancerman exacting revenge for their trying to kill him awhile back. The old administrators of the conspiracy are dead, but the last couple of seasons have affirmed that the alien invasion is still imminent.
3) The search by Mulder for his sister, which formed the true heart of the series and propulsion for his career and search for "truth" ended a couple of seasons ago with Mulder romping around with her ghost in a forest!. Turns out she died at the age of 13 or so. (insert comic 'boing!' sound effect here).
Yeah, that sucked. There was so much potential for that storyline. I'm of the opinion that they either couldn't agree or couldn't figure out how to resolve it and so took some kind of easy out. Thud.
Stop while you are ahead... (Score:1)
Like cancerman said, (Score:1)
Re:Buffy facing same destiny? (Score:1)
i was angry:1 with:2 my:4 friend - i told:3 4 wrath:5, 4 5 did end.
at last (Score:1)
i was angry:1 with:2 my:4 friend - i told:3 4 wrath:5, 4 5 did end.
thank ghod (Score:1)
Re:is this relavant (Score:1)
xfiles ? What's that ? (Score:2)
Well I just did a 'ps ax | grep xfiles' and it doesn't show up.
So it's not running. I think.
Maybe the process died.
Oh wait ! There is something in my crontab scheduled sunday at 9PM EDT. Is that what we call a zombie process ?
Re:spin-off time (Score:2)
I think she's off to the West End in London, to work in the theatre for a while.
-dair
This reminds me of Sliders.... (Score:2)
Of course, one can argue that MST3K fell into the trap, with all the changes between season 6 and 10, but since much of the creative talent was still on the show, it didn't suffer as badly (most people still argue that Joel was better than Mike in an infinite number of ways).
Whatever happened to "supermoms"? (Score:2)
> she can spend more time with her daughter,
> "Now, when I am with her, I don't work," she told the Times . "But for
> the first seven series it was very difficult. She spent a lot of time
> on the set. We all operated under the illusion that was enough.
> Outside of TV, Anderson has been working to shed her Scully image,
> appearing a bit more feminine as a socialite in last year's The House
> of Mirth.
Whew. More feminine eh. Amazing how times change. I remember when being a "supermom" and having the husband sacrifice his career to be with the daughter was the rage. Everyone thought there would be female computer scientists and presidents of countries. Now bring up so much as the idea of a female CEO and people call you a child abuser. It's almost like the 80's never were.
Re:Like cancerman said, (Score:2)
Re:They sold it?? (Score:2)
I've never watched either show or felt any desire to do so, but I try to keep track of broadcasting shenanigans.
What I read... (Score:2)
Too much detail!!
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Carter betrayed us (Score:2)
And then the plot arc stuff happened and that was immensely cool. I _love_ ongoing stories ever since Bab5 got me addicted (and then DS9 and Buffy).
And then the plot arc stuff went on, and on, and on, and on. And eventually I realised that there wasn't an end point and that Carter was just making it up as he went along.
And it died for me.
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Re:Opinions please (Score:2)
Re:Opinions please (Score:2)
Generally: first three seasons great (only because of the Darin Morgan episodes in the third), next two seasons shite, other seasons unwatched.
Geena Davis (Score:2)
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X-Files Phenomenon (Score:2)
America seemed to get dumber. Before the X-Files made paranoia almost chic, the only black helicopter and gray proctologist fans were those you met furtively clutching copies of News of the World. If you caught them and smirked, they were buying it for a friend (sort of like all of the inflatable dolls that no one ever buys for themselves, and the millions of Playboys sold every year to those who only peruse the articles).
After the X-Files, it was okay to be dumb. People who weren't escapees from mental wards would tell you with a straight face that they'd had their fillings removed so that the government wouldn't spy or them. In the years of its peak popularity, I talked to an increasing number of the imbecilic who believed that every episode of the X-Files were real FBI secret reports re-enacted for television.
I've always wondered whether the X-Files was merely liberating the existant mentally feeble, or creating them anew?
Is television really so powerful that a well-crafted science fiction series can increase the gullibility of millions of Americans?
Since Fox refuses to kill the show... (Score:2)
Re:Who cares anymore? (Score:2)
Re:"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:2)
Re:This reminds me of Sliders.... (Score:2)
Actually, Remmy didn't die, he exited via making one last jump back to (our) Earth after injecting himself with local blood (!?!) containing a virus sample deadly to the show's bad guys who had overrun multiple dimensions including our own. (Sounds kind of silly when you say it like that, huh?) He left behind all of the Slider second stringers who looked at each other saying "Now what?", which was the show's unofficial motto.
I really liked the idea of Sliders but it was very very seldom realized. The writers just never hit a good balance of what the show could be, much less the characters. Arturo is shot, but that's OK, he's dying of an incurable disease anyway. Quinn is a whiz kid from a single parent home in San Francisco, no wait, he's Superman from the dimension Krypton, no wait, he's the quantum changeling spawn from a mad scientist...Don't even get me started on dumping the Wade character off in a CroMag breeding camp never to be seen again. At least the Remmy character made a decent transition from comic relief to heroic leader.
The main point is that even with a multi-million dollar budget and hundreds of people involved, all shows come down to one guy sitting in front of a blank piece of paper to determine whether the show will suck or soar. The fact that it does the former more often than the latter shows just how brutal that blank sheet of paper can be.
Re:spin-off time (Score:2)
Re:is this relavant (Score:2)
Stuff that matters? Well, it matters to nerds I guess.
3 contributing factors to the death of the x-files (Score:2)
2. loss of writers, producers, directors to move to hollywood from canada.
3. chris carter's abandonement of his original idea of a planned 5 year story arc.
Re:Jump the Shark ! (Score:2)
What's so wrong with a new B5 show? (Score:2)
I don't watch TV alot, but B5 was one of the best TV series (scifi or not) I ever saw. JMS truly created a little gem there, and he's definitively not a one-shot poney (just look at what he did to the comic world with Rising Stars).
If he takes the same care with Legends of the Rangers than he did with B5, and since TNT doesn't have anything to do with the new serie and thus can't mess it us (Crusade anyone?), I really don't see how you can condemn it before even seeing it (or knowing anything about it for that matter).
Maybe it will suck. Maybe it will be just as good as B5. Knowing JMS, I think (and hope) for the latter. In any case, I'll wait 'till it out before making any judgements.
-Earthling
When did the X Files Jump The Shark? (Score:2)
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Re:I'm confused (Score:2)
Could be a good show, still, if Carter uses it to do some of the things he wanted to do with The Lone Gunmen and Harsh Realm...almost a fresh start.
We shall see.
P.
Trust no one... (Score:2)
Re:Opinions please (Score:2)
Amazing how Scully suddenly believes everything and John wont believe anything even though he sees things with his own eyes.
Coupled with that the stories dont even make sense any more, its like the writers forget what they wrote half way through an episode and just leave things unexplained.
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Re:"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:2)
This was actually Duchovny's idea, and not originally in the script, at least, according to his interview [eonline.com] at EOnline.[1]
I agree with your rant. I quit watching shortly after the movie, and nothing I've heard about recent seasons makes me regret it.
[1]While I'm posting, might as well throw in the Beeb's coverage [bbc.co.uk] of Anderson's career move, since I haven't seen it linked here yet.
Sleep? (Score:2)
And I am loser for having nothing better to do than sit in Seattle and post at 3:30am.
I wish *I* was dead. -Homer Simpson
Re:ker-lunk (Score:2)
hmmm (Score:2)
Re:Opinions please (Score:2)
More contradictory articles (Score:3)
Personally, I would have preferred more episodes with no conspiracy plot in them. One monster / phenomenon per episode, that's it. Now that Scully is a mother, I find it hard to believe that she would do anything dangerous...
Catatonia (Score:3)
Because I'm sure a few people reading this haven't heard of Catatonia, or this song, I've got it hosted (fot a limited time only, no doubt) here [geocities.com], or directly linked here [geocities.com], although that may not work due to the way GeoCities servers stop direct linking.
If you would like any other Catatonia mp3s, feel free to e-mail me. Nothing like assimlating a few more people into raving fans ;)
Catatonia are one of my favorite bands, and with the singer Cerys' 'odd' voice can be an aquired taste. Mulder and Scully is far from their best (imho), but is a good sampler.
If you'd like some more info on the band, a good and constantly updated site is here [hot.ee].
To go further offtopic, I'd like to thank the late Napster, because without it I'd never have bought 3 Catatonia albums, a bucketload of their singles, and an EP imported from Japan, and 2 EP's from Amazon.... but Napster robs from artists, right?
X-files already long dead (Score:3)
Then Duchovny stepped out of it (the episodes with mr family man (*puke*) still haven't aired in the Netherlands, but I assume they suck bigtime), now Anderson. Going downhill fast.
In my opinion, Carter should've ended the series a long time ago, maybe with a cliffhanger, but the series lost the charm it had a few years ago.
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Re:Like cancerman said, (Score:3)
She's got the hair for it.
Re:spin-off time (Score:3)
Frankly, when they've reached the spin-off stage, the main people decide to run-off, its time for me to turn-off.
Re:Opinions please (Score:3)
I think it was more of a slow lingering death. The best episodes were superb, but the dross just drowned it all out in the end.
In particular, there was only so many times that I could take Mulder's whiny monotonic yelling and flashbacks to childhood anal probings. The whole alien conspiracy thing got tired, confused and irritating, and I stopped caring long before Duchovny left.
Basically, they ran out of ideas about the time the movie was made, and have been coasting since then. Gillian will be missed, but only in an abstract way, I think. Frankly, I'm surprised she's stayed so long, considering the amount of skin they've been making her show in the past couple of seasons. Not that I've watched much of them, but the trailers have all been Gillian in a vest, Gillian sweating through a blouse, looking down Gillian's pleasant but modest cleavage... The sexual tension between Scully and Mulder was delightfully and tastefully handled - it's sad to see Scully reduced to a titillation role, and I think Gillian's right to get out while she's still got some dignity and credibility left.
Jump the Shark ! (Score:3)
I'm Giving Doggett And Reyes A Chance (Score:4)
Re:I'm Giving Doggett And Reyes A Chance (Score:4)
Re:I'm Giving Doggett And Reyes A Chance (Score:4)
I never got into the Cult of Scully. I always thought she was a weak character, a real waste of potential. She's a weak personally, always taking orders from Mulder. She's weak in combat, always seeming to get her gun knocked away. And lately with the baby thing she's been weak emotionally.
They could have written her much better, made her a PARTNER to Mulder instead of a subordinate. They could have made her tougher, which EVERY GUY would have loved. Women viewers too, I suspect. But they overdid her role as a foil to Mulder, and as a result she's just not that interesting, being incapable of anything but a good autopsy. A real waste.
She is a hottie though.
Anyway, I say BRING ON the new agents. Maybe they can bring the show back from the zombie-like state it has been in for years.
Flogging a dead horse (Score:4)
So what? Who cares?
When the X-Files first came out it was interesting and innovative, catching the mood of the time perfectly and holding it with well written stories and interesting characters. There was a good balance of one-off shows and the main story arc, and it was all original material.
And now? The main characters have left or are leaving, we're seeing the same old shit time and time again and it's just not exciting any more. I gave up after the film came out, and I've not missed it at all.
It's just a pity that studios feel the need to extend shows beyond any kind of reasonable shelf life, and that far too many writers are all too willing to make a quick buck by going along with it. Let's face it, most writers just aren't talented enough to keep coming up with fresh ideas for years and years, and so we see recycled crap repeating itself again and again. Let it die for Christ's sake!
And even worse, there's the resurrected show, in which studios decide that they can re-milk a dead cash cow. There's a new Star Trek series coming out (oh joy), and even worse, new Babylon 5 as well (ugh). This is just riding on the backs of those viewers who are so fanatical about these things they'll spend their money on it no matter what, which in my book is pretty low.
Out of curiosity, why is it only sci-fi gets this kind of rabid fandom? Other genres have shows which are popular, but it seems only Trekkers and whatever it is B5 fans call themselves are willing to fork out big bucks for some kind of novelty alarm clock which plays their show's theme tune. Is it a substitute for a healthy social life? I just don't get it myself.
Re:X-Files Phenomenon (Score:4)
"This is not happening. This is not happening." (Score:5)
I am no longer thusly inclined. My trust in Chris Carter's instincts was misplaced.
Nowadays, if there is to be dissing of the series, I'll join the chorus and ask for a refrain if it ends too quickly.
I find I'm amazed at and depressed by the actions of Chris Carter. He was once a vocal defendant of preserving the dignity of the series. He spoke lucidly about needing to make decisions that were in the best interest of the characters, and one would assume, the legacy of the show. He stated repeatedly on the record there would be no romance between Scully & Mulder, such as in this interview from 1999:
I'm amazed at what Chris Carter has done with the trust of viewers...
The show has become an insufferable self-parody, and Chris Carter will have only himself to blame when it comes time to reflect on the legacy of the series. I suspect he will, for the rest of his life (particularly AFTER the series dies presumably a couple of seasons from now) hear fans and critics alike tell him that he blew it. The X-files was, in its day, both a cultural phenomenon and a show of the highest calibre. But it has become now a depressing, hollow shell of its former self. It has no heart, no soul and no mind, and it asks the same of its viewers.
Cmdr Taco, Hemos, and Cowboy Neal quit Slashdot! (Score:5)
Rob Malda (who plays Cmdr Taco) said "Yeah, we've been with Slashdot for several years now, and we just felt it was time for a change". The plot twist mirrors those of The X-Files and Buffy, where major characters were killed off for similar reasons.
Industry analysts suspect that fear of typecasting prompted the move, though some wonder if the editors will be able to live down previous glories; Doug Synergy, Self Proclaimed Web-Guru, said "Y'know, they've been doing news for nerds and bashing Microsoft for so long it's difficult to imagine them doing something like The Barbie Fan Club".
In recent weeks Slashdot has been subject to a series of intriguing plot twists, with the server repeatedley being unavailable, but even this hasn't held the interest of previously loyal fans.
It seems unlikely that the site will continue in it's current form for much longer, but it's been suggested that current editors Michael Simms and John Katz could take over a spin-off site; Slashtroll, Goatse.cx That Matters.
Opinions please (Score:5)