Fourth Indiana Jones Installment 195
Kryptonomic writes: "According to "this article, Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and contemplating teaming up for a fourth Indiana Jones movie possibly set in (surprise, surprise) Atlantis. It is rumoured that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg will produce and direct the movie, respectively." Listen? Can you here the music? Can ya?
Please God, no more Spielberg. (Score:1)
Learn to spell, Taco (Score:1)
This isn't P.C. (Score:1)
Fnord! (Score:2)
Ford, Connery, Lucas, Spielberg (Score:2)
what the hell will they call it? (Score:2)
Indiana Jones and the Prescription Viagra?
Indiana Jones and the Motorized Wheelchair of Death?
- A.P.
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Young Indy (Score:1)
What you say! The guy from such hits as "Encino Man", "Dudley Do-Right", and "Blast From The Past". Forget it. Go watch him in "The Mummy" and compare that to the (acting) of Raiders. Brendan has the right amount of humor, action, and machismo to pull it off, and do it well. Not to mention he's probably the right age to do it as well.
Re:who takes over as Indy? (Score:2)
Please no (Score:3)
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:1)
Re: Spielberg and Lucas working together? (Score:1)
Not so hard to imagine...!
Two Things: (Score:1)
2) Does anyone know how closely or loosely tied to that game's plot the movie will be?
who takes over as Indy? (Score:2)
Re:We named the dog Indiana... (Score:2)
Re:Inspired by Tomb Raider? (Score:2)
Re:Aging archeologists (Score:2)
His father probably served in a similar capacity for England.
Some Hollywood makeup magic could condense that 12 years to 4 to 6.
A good script could have Indy and Dad racing against the Allied advance and the Nazi scramble for survival, escape, and Swiss bank accounts in the last months of the war to get to the spear they stabbed Jesus in the side with or some Norse mythology artifact to keep Adolf from using it to complete some supernatural A-bomb strength super weapon.
Maybe while they're at it they could single (or double)-handedly prevent the Alpine Redoubt that Ike feared from coming into existance.
And of course the film could throw in some foreshadowing of the cold war to come.
Re:If it's like Episode One (Score:2)
Re:Which fast food chain will be shilling for it? (Score:2)
As many as their menu provides assaults on our appetites?
Re:This isn't P.C. (Score:2)
Re:Lucas/Spielburg (Score:2)
In which case the destruction and disappearance of Atlantis was a mercy from
Divine Providence.
Re:The Last Last Crusade... MOO! (Score:2)
Indy in a wheel chair (Score:2)
Re:Hehe... (Score:1)
I don't understand your sig. It's like saying 'Louis Gehrig died of Louis Gehrig's disease. Now that's ironic.' DUH.
The suspect in the Miranda case, IIRC, didn't know he had the right to remain silent. He thought he had to answer police questions without a lawyer. His confession was thus thrown out, and the 'Miranda Rights' were invented, things police have to inform a suspect before questioning.
Or are you against informing people of their rights in the first place? It seems a little hypocritical, as you clearly know these rights, to think it's a good idea to not tell others.
-David T. C.
Re:Lets see... (Score:1)
Anyway, Altanta doesn't actually exist as a city, it's just an airport and a traffic jam (tearing up part of I-285 this tomorrow, w00t), with about 100 miles of suburbs. ;)
What kind of city has this kind of traffic, seriously? We get friggin reverse rush hour, people backing up leaving the city in the morning and coming in in the afternoon, on SR 400. What the hell is up with that?
-David T. C.
Re:Hehe... (Score:1)
Of course, not really, because the suspect would have had the rights without the ruling. The ruling just made the police tell him.
-David T. C.
Re:Aging archeologists (Score:2)
-David T. C.
idle speculation (Score:2)
looks like a slow news day for slashdot and the BBC, both.
next, you'll be posting an article about Apple being bought by Disney or some such...
Re:Lets see... (Score:2)
Re:Lets see... (Score:2)
I know the ending... (Score:4)
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from the i-hate-rats dept. (Score:1)
Re:More great action (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell, Taco (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell, Taco (Score:2)
I thought the setting... (Score:2)
Indiana Jones: Life with Arthritis
Re: Good Idea with the 007 styley (Score:1)
The only problem is that like the Bond films, Connery ruled it and was the best for the style of character, and it wasn't until Pierce Brosnan that he had a similar screen presence (or whatever it's called).
I mean, look at the Indiana Jones character: it's basically Han Solo in a different era, and both characters are basically Ford's crowning parts. It would be very very hard to find an actor with the suitable hapless/cleverish/smart-but-not-irritatingly smarmy that is what all you get from Hollywood these days.
The best thing would be to find some unknown actor, and for him to be Indy's kid from say between him and the chick from the Raiders of the Lost Ark. But if you see how they brutalise good stories by putting e.g., Di Caprio in the Beach (the guy was meant to be British for christs sake, and they ommitted one of the MAIN characters from the book).
But yeah it would be cool if Indy was "timeless" like 007.
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:2)
In fact, it was the first thing I thought of upon reading this story. I'll just file it in the "unlikely" pile in my brain.
It would be cool to see that story in something other than 320x240, though.
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:2)
Actually, I *loved* the interface. I spent more money in my Windows days on Lucasarts games than anything else. Every once in awhile, I attempt to play those games under DOSemu as I no longer have any trace of MS on my hard drive...
I'm totally dissapointed that Loki releases nothing like it. There are way too many FPS games these days.
I say this as an owner of 7 Loki games, too.
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:1)
Oh boy! (Score:1)
Re:This is false. (Score:1)
WorldMaker
imdb (Score:2)
Look Closely... (Score:4)
The hopes don't seem so high from other sources... According to IMDB [imdb.com], the hopes aren't very high for this sequel. Also, according to the article from this BBC story, this is a very common rumor that pops up every few months.
Re:Snakes, not rats (Score:1)
[ot]: I was in Borders the other day, and the clerk who sold me my book had a nametag which said "Winston Smith". I asked him if it was real, and he said it wasn't. Still, weird.
Re:The last time Lucas made an Indiana Jones movie (Score:2)
This has to be the one IJ adventure that was most like old-Hollywood serials from the 30's and 40's - it even had the "look" (albeit in color) and the "campiness" reminiscent of that time.
Of course, I also liked "The Mummy" (haven't seen "Returns" yet)...
Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
uhhh. The Fate of Atlantis maybe? (Score:2)
Hehe... (Score:5)
Christ the guy's already 58 years old. By the time they start filming he'd be over 60!
--Brogdon
related story? (Score:2)
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:1)
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Re:The Last Last Crusade... MOO! (Score:1)
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More great action (Score:5)
I remember an interview with George Lucas, when he was making the Young Indian Jones TV series. He said that people were accusing him of milking the franchise for money. He said if he wanted to do that, he'd just make another sequel. Maybe Phantom Menace didn't do so well at the box office?
Ker Ys (Score:1)
This makes perfect sense as the origin of the legend of Atlantis and corresponds to some work that has been conducted by The Institute of Metahistory placing Atlantis near both Cornwall and Brittany [www.imh.ru].
In all likelihood, there was, at the end of the last iceage, a northward migration out of the, then, grasslands of North Africa -- a mirgration that took two routes:
Individuals with Rh- allele apparently left from the Holocene migration out of north Africa along the western coast of Europe (possibly aka the 'Vanir' of Norse mythology):
Previously considered somewhat outlandish, these theories concerning early civilization in France [geocities.com], Rh-negative populations [wildsurmise.com], pre-Celtic Norse-Scots [slashdot.org] and Holocene Atlantic coastal migrations [islandnet.com] are now receiving independent confirmation from DNA analysis of some of the populations in question.
Gene studies are now bearing out theories of this relationship among pre-Indoeuropean peoples along the Atlantic coast of Europe and north Africa:
From the Daily Telegraph
Basques are brothers of the Celts
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Celts, Basques and Picts - Medieval Life & The Hundred Years War WELSH and Irishmen are genetic blood-brothers of the Basque people, according to a study published today.
The findings provide the first direct evidence of a close relationship between the people thought of as Celts and the Basques. The Basques are thought to be the closest descendants of the Palaeolithic people who established the first settlements in Britain more than 10,000 years ago.
The evidence of a link is in a study by James Wilson and Prof David Goldstein of University College London, with colleagues at Oxford University and the University of California, Davis. The study is published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
The team looked for similarities between the Y chromosomes - only carried by men - of 88 "Celtic fringe" individuals from Anglesey, North Wales, 146 from Ireland with Irish Gaelic surnames, and 50 Basques, revealing "remarkable" similarities.
The Celts carry the early Y chromosome, said the study, which provides the first clear evidence of a close relationship in the paternal heritage of Basque and Celtic speaking populations. "They were statistically indistinguishable," said Prof Goldstein.
Indiana Jones 4 won't happen for a while though... (Score:2)
Conflicting Reports (Score:1)
Re:Lets see... (Score:2)
excuse me, but we atlantans don't take kindly to idle talk of being bombed or enslaved...
Oh, but having commercials with McDonald's drive-through employees "talking" in that sacred tongue doesn't bother your image as an Atlantan, at all.
Re:Inspired by Tomb Raider? (Score:1)
There was another Indy Game called The Infernal Machine. I never played it, but it looked like it was trying really hard to be a Tomb Raider, in both it's environments and gameplay style.
I think Lucasarts should have stuck with the point and click thing, and I certainly hope that Spielberg sticks with the themes and mood of the old films.
Re:Inspired by Tomb Raider? (Score:1)
She had to stuff her bra. It was all over the news.
This is a rehash of Old Rumors (Score:1)
Uhh... (Score:1)
Lets see... (Score:2)
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Re:Lets see... (Score:2)
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For on Bravo (Score:2)
He had no time frame.
Rich...
Re:The Last Last Crusade... MOO! (Score:1)
Nope, this is lots older then that...... (Score:1)
I don't know about the music... (Score:2)
Quick Poll...Post Answers (Score:2)
Vaporcinema.... (Score:3)
Re:That sounds familiar (Score:2)
Interestingly, the actual game area, if you subtract the area used for the verb-and-inventory UI, was far smaller: 320x143. That works out to a visual aspect ratio of 1.86:1, which is suspiciously close to 1.85:1, a standard aspect ratio used in many movies today. Fate of Atlantis was a bona-fide widescreen game, folks!
For those keeping score, that's yet another reason to consider the classic pre-dumbed-down SCUMM interface the pinnacle of adventure game UI design.
BTW, in case anyone was wondering, the Indy movies were all shot using Panavision, an anamorphic process that produces an even wider aspect ratio of 2.35:1.
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Re:The thing I disliked most . . . (Score:2)
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Re:That sounds familiar (Score:2)
Actually, I *loved* the interface.
As did I! Perhaps you misunderstood my original post. I consider the Fate interface the pinnacle of adventure game UI design. This was before LucasArts decided to dumb things down (Sam and Max Hit the Road, Full Throttle, The Dig, and so on).
The on-screen non-dismissable interface used in Fate and other classic LucasArts adventures may have taken up a significant amount of screen real estate, but it had the happy advantage of making the play area "widescreen", which made for a more cinematic experience. Clearly, this was intentional, because the aspect ratio was defined in a precise way, by dividing the screen at literally an odd point.
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This is false. (Score:5)
Indiana Jones 4: The Calgary Sun talked with Steven Spielberg's producing partner Kathleen Kennedy who had some disheartening news for those eager to see a fourth Indy film: "The truth is there has been a lot of discussion amongst all of us connected with the film but to be honest there is no script because there isn't even a writer in place. It sounds like a slam dunk to do another Indiana Jones but you have to get everyone available and committed and then you have to get a screenplay that excites everyone. In reality that could probably take years".
Re:uhhh. The Fate of Atlantis maybe? (Score:2)
Re:Hehe... (Score:2)
Re:How is this going to fit in though? (Score:2)
More than that - you have to drink it EVERY DAY according to the novization. The reason why the knight had grown so old was from the times where his faith wavered, and he failed to drink from the Grail, which caused normal aging to resume.
I don't think that part of the expliation made it into the movie - for some reason, the book adaptation managed to stick in my head better than the movie (which is saying something - I thought the movie was great!)
As for Henry Jones, Jr (Indy) - if ya ever get the chance, check out the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He didn't age well at all, and is one seriously grumpy bastard.
(Just noticed how bad my spelling sucked - the heck with the spell checker today...)
Re:Hehe... ya know... (Score:2)
Seriously, the revulsion (fear?) of the young for the old is getting to me a bit as I get older myself. It is possible to date, use computers, run, and even have an adventure or two after you turn thirty.
Wonderful (Score:2)
Atlantis (Score:2)
Its kind of funny how every year there is a big hype in the movies about something or other, one year is was dinosaurs, then tornadoes, then meteors wiping out the earth, and then come the cheaper productions usually a year or so later which are based on one of these particular themes.
Sometimes it can make you wonder about the creativity in Hollywood, I mean take a look at Tomb Raider, even it had something to do with Atlantis...
Oh, well. A movie with Sean Connery and Harrison Ford can't be all that bad, their screen presence alone usually makes up for most of the flaws in the the theme or plot.
Nathaniel P. Wilkerson
Anybody watched Temple of Doom lately? (Score:2)
Oh great... (Score:3)
YES! (Score:2)
Re: Can you HERE the music. (Score:2)
Re:This is news? (Score:2)
Cryptnotic
Re:Hehe... (Score:2)
usually someone else comes along and explains things, but no one else did, so here goes...
Ernesto Miranda was murdered later in life. The only suspect in the case refused to testify, claiming his 'Miranda right' to remain silent. Thus, the irony. Miranda's murder and subsequent investigation have absolutely nothing to do with the case you refer to.
Additionally, I get some pretty vicious replies to my sig, which make it all the more worthwhile. :)
Re:Atlantis?? (Score:2)
They'll need to use lots of CGI effects... (Score:2)
To conceal the age of the actors. Will Indy turn in his whip for a cane? I guess Connery will have to turn in his cane for a walker.
Maybe the villains in this installment can all be members of the Rolling Stones...
Re:First 3 **STILL** not on DVD. Oh. Lucas. I Forg (Score:2)
If I remember correctly, one reason why Spielberg wouldn't release the movies he directed on DVD format for some years was the fact that they lacked DTS surround sound encoding. Now that DTS-encoded DVD discs are commonly available (and most good-quality A/V-receivers have DTS decoding built-in), you're starting to see Spielberg-directed movies on DVD.
Re:The Last Last Crusade... MOO! (Score:4)
Yep, but this one is worse. At least episode 1 could give us a new cast, but Ford isn't getting any younger. I'm picturing a fat old mess of an Indiana Jones, done up in a tuxedo in some Las Vegas dressing room... Gimme a stage, where this bull can rage...
I have big fears this will turn out badly.
Anyway, here are my top 10 picks for the title of the new movie:
10. Indiana Jones and the Quest for Fiber
9. Indiana Jones and Siegfried and Roy
8. Indiana Jones Has Fallen and He Can't Get Up
7. Indiana Jones and the Planet of the Apes
6. Indiana Jones and the Tomb of Indiana Jones
5. Indiana Jones and the Fat Paycheck
4. Indiana Jones and the Stone of Kidneys
3. Indiana Jones and the Kids Today, Oy! They Call That Music? What.
2. Indiana Jones and the Lost Erection
1. Grumpy Old Indiana Jones
Good luck pulling this one off.
Re:The Last Last Crusade... MOO! (Score:2)
AND NO KATE CAPSHAW!! God, the Temple of Doom was hard to sit through... Ugh!
- Spryguy
Re:Snakes, not rats (Score:2)
I know it's been 12 years since the last movie, but come on, it's snakes he hates, not rats. His father is the one who hated rats.
Maybe CmdrTaco hates rats, too?
Re:How is this going to fit in though? (Score:2)
If you re-watch the flic you'll see that in order for the water to be effective, you have to keep drinking it over time, lest the effects wear off. As it so happens, Indie's dad got to drink it (and have it poured on him) once, and he never actually got to sip it or anything.
Thus, Indiana Jones is fully mortal, and his dad's small drink probably didn't buy him enough years to even matter or look out of place.
oh great (Score:3)
oh wait, yes i can, that's what we've got China for
Re:Indy in a wheel chair (Score:2)
Can we seriously epect a lot in the way of extreme exertion out of these two?
Both Ford and Connery are in great shape, and they can do a hell of a lot wit' dem newfangled computer-thingies these days, but I would be kidding if I said I wasn't going to be watching a possible IJ4 the same way I watched Trek 6:
"Damn, Deforest Kelly's gettin' up there. How long you think he has left?"
We named the dog Indiana... (Score:2)
In the second film, Indy went looking for a magic potato, fought the Thuggees and killed almost all of them.
In the third film, Indy went looking for the holy grail and killed Nazis again.
Now, in the fourth film, Indy can go find a lost underground continent and kill all the... Gungans!
Re:Young Indy (Score:2)
Say "NO!" to tax money for religious groups. [thedaythatcounts.org]
Re:This is false. (Score:2)
So, in a few words: It's not entirely false.
A few notes... (Score:2)
As for Harrison being too old, it's been my understanding that he's supposed to play an aging IJ in the film, one who's starting to get a bit quirky but still able to throw down with whoever's in his path. I could see it being set easily in the mid 50s or early 60s, maybe with some serious cold war overtones (hell, get Tom Clancy to write it for a real Battle of the Adventure Flick Stars).
Anyway, as long as he isn't playing young Han Solo in the third Star Wars pic, I think it's great to hear about Ford doing adventure. After all, he was one of the heros of my youth...hell, it's he and Rick Hunter that inspired me to grow this constantly scruffy hairdo.
On the news (Score:2)
He looked old enough to play Sean Connery's father.
Re:Aging archeologists (Score:2)
So maybe it could be set post-war, in the late 40's; that would only make in ten years or so after the first three movies.
This is news? (Score:4)
We've already heard every rumor under the sun, from M. Night Shyamalan writiting the script, to even Lucas himself directing it (after Episode III of course), and even that it would be released mid-2002 (too late!).
Then when "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine" came out, the rumors all focused on the game developers, and how they (falsely) hinted that the next Indy movie went beyond all the Nazi-bashing stuff from the first three (aw...killing Nazis was so much fun though...), and that it might take place in an African/Tropical climate, or even have something to do with the Cold War with Russia.
But let's look at it this way, Speilberg and Ford are most likely booked for the next few years, and Lucas will almost definately be busy until 2005 or so. Maybe THEN the three of them will have enough time to write a decent script, get old Connery back (assuming he doesn't get arrested for shooting Lorn Michaels before then), and actually make this movie.
So, I don't believe this is "newsworthy", especially since a PR Rep at Paramount put it so perfectly:
"These rumours come round every couple of months. It's idle gossip."
Snakes, not rats (Score:5)
I know it's been 12 years since the last movie, but come on, it's snakes he hates, not rats. His father is the one who hated rats.