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Fourth Indiana Jones Installment 195

Kryptonomic writes: "According to "this article, Harrison Ford and Sean Connery and contemplating teaming up for a fourth Indiana Jones movie possibly set in (surprise, surprise) Atlantis. It is rumoured that George Lucas and Steven Spielberg will produce and direct the movie, respectively." Listen? Can you here the music? Can ya?
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  • by Anonymous Coward
    After A.I., I'm scared.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    here the music? Maybe you should have spent some of that VA Linux paper fortune on a basic education.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    But I think considering Ford's age, the appropriate time frame would be late 1940's or early 1950's. With the Nazi's gone, the perfect foil for him would be Mao and the People's Army. There's a lot of mysticism in China and Tibet for Lucas/Speilberg to exploit. They could bring in Ang Lee and a bunch of HK actors to really flesh this out. Indy and wire-fighting monks vs the Communist hoards.
  • by Anonymous Coward
    I wonder if they'll find a great white pyramid with a bright red eye on it...
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Aren't most of them dead? I'm pretty sure Sean Connery died sometime before he made that Alcatraz movie. Lucas and Speilberg have been dead for at least 10 years. Harrison Ford might be showing signs of life, though.
  • Indiana Jones and the Colostomy Bag?

    Indiana Jones and the Prescription Viagra?

    Indiana Jones and the Motorized Wheelchair of Death?

    - A.P.

    --

  • If anyone were to take over the role as Indiana Jones, I'd vote for Brendan Frasier.

    What you say! The guy from such hits as "Encino Man", "Dudley Do-Right", and "Blast From The Past". Forget it. Go watch him in "The Mummy" and compare that to the (acting) of Raiders. Brendan has the right amount of humor, action, and machismo to pull it off, and do it well. Not to mention he's probably the right age to do it as well.
  • Now you're just being MEAN. ;)
  • by smartin ( 942 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @03:12PM (#105570)
    I really like Harrison but he is just too long in the tooth for the part. Think Roger Moore in his last few bonds (or his first few for that matter :). I'd go see a younger Indy, say in the period somewhere between young indian and raiders. That would put it in the 20's or so. Prime egyptology!
  • Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis was an excellent game. It really felt like a Indiana Jones movie! I hope they make this happen, I've been wishing for it for a long time.

  • Per IMDB [imdb.com]
    1. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981)
    2. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984)
    3. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
    Steven Spielberg, Director and George Lucas, Executive Producer for ALL 3 films!!

    Not so hard to imagine...!
  • 1) Yes "Fate of Atlantis" was actually a pretty cool adventure game I used to play on my mac when I was in high school. I almost finished it then gave up. grr.

    2) Does anyone know how closely or loosely tied to that game's plot the movie will be?

  • Turnabout being fair play and all that, I'd say Alec Baldwin should take over as Indy. :)
  • Indiana Jones and the Grand Inquisitor?
  • I have a co-worker who thinks that Tomb Raider was similar to the Indy movies, but the Indy movies at least made sense. None of the stupid stuff like finding *both* pieces of a triangle to stop the bad guys when merely destroying one half would solve the problem.
  • Since he knew a lot more about Nazis and the geography of the areas they occupied than the average Allied officer, chances are that Indiana Jones spent WWII in the OSS, and then the Occupation in one of those Monuments, Fine Arts, and Archives outfits that hunted up Nazi loot and records in abandoned mines.
    His father probably served in a similar capacity for England.

    Some Hollywood makeup magic could condense that 12 years to 4 to 6.

    A good script could have Indy and Dad racing against the Allied advance and the Nazi scramble for survival, escape, and Swiss bank accounts in the last months of the war to get to the spear they stabbed Jesus in the side with or some Norse mythology artifact to keep Adolf from using it to complete some supernatural A-bomb strength super weapon.

    Maybe while they're at it they could single (or double)-handedly prevent the Alpine Redoubt that Ike feared from coming into existance.

    And of course the film could throw in some foreshadowing of the cold war to come.

  • Indiana Jones and the CGI character from Hell :-)
  • "How many asaults on our intelligence does McDonalds feel is needed?"

    As many as their menu provides assaults on our appetites?

  • Elsewhere I suggested Jones and his dad in the European theater during WWII, but pre-Pearl Harbor run-ins with Imperial Japan would work too. Kind of like the old Brass Monkey bar scene.
  • "...otherwise the people of Atlantis might be Jar Jar's cousins."

    In which case the destruction and disappearance of Atlantis was a mercy from
    Divine Providence.

  • And no jar-jar. Although seeing the horrible things that get done to people in the Indiana Jones movies, maybe having a Jar-jar sacrifice would be a good idea.

  • pushing his ancient dad in an Iron lung ? Somehow it looses its' appeal. Unless it is Indy staying at home and sending a younger assistant into the wilds to find stuff I am not buying it...
  • Miranda's murder was never solved because the suspect invoked his right to remain silent. Now that's ironic.

    I don't understand your sig. It's like saying 'Louis Gehrig died of Louis Gehrig's disease. Now that's ironic.' DUH.

    The suspect in the Miranda case, IIRC, didn't know he had the right to remain silent. He thought he had to answer police questions without a lawyer. His confession was thus thrown out, and the 'Miranda Rights' were invented, things police have to inform a suspect before questioning.

    Or are you against informing people of their rights in the first place? It seems a little hypocritical, as you clearly know these rights, to think it's a good idea to not tell others.

    -David T. C.

  • When were we bombed? Burned to the ground, yeah, but not bombed. ;)

    Anyway, Altanta doesn't actually exist as a city, it's just an airport and a traffic jam (tearing up part of I-285 this tomorrow, w00t), with about 100 miles of suburbs. ;)

    What kind of city has this kind of traffic, seriously? We get friggin reverse rush hour, people backing up leaving the city in the morning and coming in in the afternoon, on SR 400. What the hell is up with that?

    -David T. C.

  • Okay, now that sig makes more sense.

    Of course, not really, because the suspect would have had the rights without the ruling. The ruling just made the police tell him.

    -David T. C.

  • Ah, yes, Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg are working in secret on the movie. Riiiight.

    -David T. C.
  • However, a spokeswoman at Paramount Pictures in Los Angeles told BBC News Online: "These rumours come round every couple of months. It's idle gossip."

    looks like a slow news day for slashdot and the BBC, both.

    next, you'll be posting an article about Apple being bought by Disney or some such...
  • excuse me, but we atlantans [citysearch.com] don't take kindly to idle talk of being bombed or enslaved... we've had some trouble with that in the past, and it's not nice to rile up those old feelings..

  • the olympic park bombing is what i was referring to, specifically, but being burned to the ground is another thing i had in mind
  • by sharkey ( 16670 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @06:11PM (#105591)
    Just don't let the Nazis test the oricalcum machine on you, Indy!

    --
  • It's snakes, dumbass. He hates snakes.
  • mmm...lucas personally pulled in $400 million after everyone and everything was paid off for TPM. I think in the mind of Lucas, he did just fine.

  • uhh... you don't come hear very often do you? I'm suprized their is only won mistake in that post. (misspelling intentional) ;p The horrible grammar is a staple of slashdot stories. Most of us get over it and fail to bitch about it. If you understood the meaning behind the misspelling; in the universal sense of things; does it really matter if a story uses here instead of hear? Did anyone die over it? No. To recap, grammar has always been a Slashdot problem, most of us get over it fairly quick, some of us bitch and moan about it 'cause we have nothing better to do.
  • I really wish there were a way to quietly report typo-type errors without having to post a comment...

  • would be a nursing home

    Indiana Jones: Life with Arthritis
  • That would be a great idea; more crusading in the 1930s, which was a really cool backdrop for all the movies.

    The only problem is that like the Bond films, Connery ruled it and was the best for the style of character, and it wasn't until Pierce Brosnan that he had a similar screen presence (or whatever it's called).

    I mean, look at the Indiana Jones character: it's basically Han Solo in a different era, and both characters are basically Ford's crowning parts. It would be very very hard to find an actor with the suitable hapless/cleverish/smart-but-not-irritatingly smarmy that is what all you get from Hollywood these days.

    The best thing would be to find some unknown actor, and for him to be Indy's kid from say between him and the chick from the Raiders of the Lost Ark. But if you see how they brutalise good stories by putting e.g., Di Caprio in the Beach (the guy was meant to be British for christs sake, and they ommitted one of the MAIN characters from the book).

    But yeah it would be cool if Indy was "timeless" like 007.

  • Yeah, I remember the rumour when that game was new.

    In fact, it was the first thing I thought of upon reading this story. I'll just file it in the "unlikely" pile in my brain.

    It would be cool to see that story in something other than 320x240, though.
  • For those keeping score, that's yet another reason to consider the classic pre-dumbed-down SCUMM interface the pinnacle of adventure game UI design.


    Actually, I *loved* the interface. I spent more money in my Windows days on Lucasarts games than anything else. Every once in awhile, I attempt to play those games under DOSemu as I no longer have any trace of MS on my hard drive...

    I'm totally dissapointed that Loki releases nothing like it. There are way too many FPS games these days.

    I say this as an owner of 7 Loki games, too.
  • He means the PC adventure game from LucasArts, btw. In which case I think he would want it to be based on Atlantis since that game was really great :).
  • Indiana Jones meets Star Wars meets James Bond meets E.T!!! Imagine the hilarious wacky antics that will ensue!
  • It has been a rumor that IJ4 would be in Atlantis since LEC released Fate of Atlantis which still is the greates Indiana Jones computer game made. Also, I've heard the hold-up isn't Lucas, but Paramount this time. Paramount owns the rights to the IJ films, and has been bugging Lucas/Spielburg/et al for years, but this year things changed as Tomb Raider and MI2 are much bigger (and "cheaper") franchises for Paramount.

    WorldMaker
  • by boarder ( 41071 )
    And, according to IMDB [imdb.com], the hopes aren't very high for this sequel.
  • by boarder ( 41071 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:47PM (#105604) Homepage
    I don't think this is a case of Lucas milking a dead cash cow. It looks like the studio execs (we all know how Krusty the Clown feels about them) are just kicking around the idea (as well as the dead horses). Lucas hasn't signed anything.

    The hopes don't seem so high from other sources... According to IMDB [imdb.com], the hopes aren't very high for this sequel. Also, according to the article from this BBC story, this is a very common rumor that pops up every few months.

  • Er, wasn't that Winston Smith who hated rats?

    [ot]: I was in Borders the other day, and the clerk who sold me my book had a nametag which said "Winston Smith". I asked him if it was real, and he said it wasn't. Still, weird.
  • No!

    This has to be the one IJ adventure that was most like old-Hollywood serials from the 30's and 40's - it even had the "look" (albeit in color) and the "campiness" reminiscent of that time.

    Of course, I also liked "The Mummy" (haven't seen "Returns" yet)...

    Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!
  • Played and finished the game, it was a few hours of entertainment, but a hell of a yawner. Why not come up with a decent plot? Or let the dead horse alone.
  • by brogdon ( 65526 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:22PM (#105608) Homepage
    Indiana Jones and the Broken Hip of Doom.

    Christ the guy's already 58 years old. By the time they start filming he'd be over 60!


    --Brogdon
  • I read the previous story before this one, and I immediately thought of the Space Shuttle Atlantis as the setting. I know; I know. It's the space station, but still the stream of conciousness deal was a little weird. In fact, now I can hardly picture Indy in near weightlessness.
  • From what I remember, the Fate of Atlantis game was based on a completed screenplay for the fourth Indy film. However Harrison didn't like it, and refused to make the film until whatever he didn't like was fixed. By now, I doubt much of the original storyline has survived, though I hope Sofia's channeling is still in it ;o)
    --
  • Indiana Jones and the Postoffice queue of Peril
    --
  • I had a chance to see the first one a couple months ago, and I was really surprised. I'd forgotten what a truly great action movie it was. Despite the fact that the action doesn't really let up, it never gets too much, as in a Indy wannabe like The Mummy Returns. The second and third were not as great overall, but both had some fun and exciting parts.

    I remember an interview with George Lucas, when he was making the Young Indian Jones TV series. He said that people were accusing him of milking the franchise for money. He said if he wanted to do that, he'd just make another sequel. Maybe Phantom Menace didn't do so well at the box office?
  • The legends of both Brittany and Cornwall have, among them, the story of Ker Ys [bagadoo.tm.fr] -- a city in the sea surrounded by concentric dikes that kept the water out. Like the story of Atlantis, Ker Ys was destroyed by flooding after a catastrophe with the main difference in the case of Ker Ys being that the movement of earth was due to a failure of the dikes.

    This makes perfect sense as the origin of the legend of Atlantis and corresponds to some work that has been conducted by The Institute of Metahistory placing Atlantis near both Cornwall and Brittany [www.imh.ru].

    In all likelihood, there was, at the end of the last iceage, a northward migration out of the, then, grasslands of North Africa -- a mirgration that took two routes:

    1. Along the eastern coast of the Mediterranean.
    2. Across the Straights of Gibralter.
    This gave rise to two disparate populations that interacted across Europe somewhat, and came into conflict from time to time, particularly if, as is hypothesized in some quarters, there was a high degree of Rh-negative blood in the Atlantean population (still visible among the mountain Berbers, Basque, Welsh, Scots, Irish and some older Norse) causing a particularly nasty form of hybrid infertility when the Rh+ eastern males mated with the western females (first child ok with subsequent children frequently damaged or dead at birth). Until immune-suppression shots became available in the 1970s, this Rh-incompatiblity remained a major medical problem among the Scotch-Irish in the United States.

    Individuals with Rh- allele apparently left from the Holocene migration out of north Africa along the western coast of Europe (possibly aka the 'Vanir' of Norse mythology):

    1. Highland Morrocans 40%
    2. Highland Basques 32%
    3. Scotland and Ireland 25%
    4. Norwegian islands 17%
    5. Laps 7%
    The Rh+ "Norse" tribes (aka 'Aesir') arrived shortly thereafter via over-land routes that were slower than the coastal routes for post-iceage migration.

    Previously considered somewhat outlandish, these theories concerning early civilization in France [geocities.com], Rh-negative populations [wildsurmise.com], pre-Celtic Norse-Scots [slashdot.org] and Holocene Atlantic coastal migrations [islandnet.com] are now receiving independent confirmation from DNA analysis of some of the populations in question.

    Gene studies are now bearing out theories of this relationship among pre-Indoeuropean peoples along the Atlantic coast of Europe and north Africa:

    From the Daily Telegraph

    Basques are brothers of the Celts
    By Roger Highfield, Science Editor

    Celts, Basques and Picts - Medieval Life & The Hundred Years War WELSH and Irishmen are genetic blood-brothers of the Basque people, according to a study published today.

    The findings provide the first direct evidence of a close relationship between the people thought of as Celts and the Basques. The Basques are thought to be the closest descendants of the Palaeolithic people who established the first settlements in Britain more than 10,000 years ago.

    The evidence of a link is in a study by James Wilson and Prof David Goldstein of University College London, with colleagues at Oxford University and the University of California, Davis. The study is published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

    The team looked for similarities between the Y chromosomes - only carried by men - of 88 "Celtic fringe" individuals from Anglesey, North Wales, 146 from Ireland with Irish Gaelic surnames, and 50 Basques, revealing "remarkable" similarities.

    The Celts carry the early Y chromosome, said the study, which provides the first clear evidence of a close relationship in the paternal heritage of Basque and Celtic speaking populations. "They were statistically indistinguishable," said Prof Goldstein.

  • "Indiana Jones 4: The Calgary Sun talked with Steven Spielberg's producing partner Kathleen Kennedy who had some disheartening news for those eager to see a fourth Indy film: 'The truth is there has been a lot of discussion amongst all of us connected with the film but to be honest there is no script because there isn't even a writer in place. It sounds like a slam dunk to do another Indiana Jones but you have to get everyone available and committed and then you have to get a screenplay that excites everyone. In reality that could probably take years'." --http://www.darkhorizons.com/news9/010703.htm (Dark Horizons; 7/3/2001)

  • According to Dark Horizons [darkhorizons.com], you shouldn't hold your breath for Indy 4;

    Indiana Jones 4: The Calgary Sun talked with Steven Spielberg's producing partner Kathleen Kennedy who had some disheartening news for those eager to see a fourth Indy film: "The truth is there has been a lot of discussion amongst all of us connected with the film but to be honest there is no script because there isn't even a writer in place. It sounds like a slam dunk to do another Indiana Jones but you have to get everyone available and committed and then you have to get a screenplay that excites everyone. In reality that could probably take years".
  • excuse me, but we atlantans don't take kindly to idle talk of being bombed or enslaved...

    Oh, but having commercials with McDonald's drive-through employees "talking" in that sacred tongue doesn't bother your image as an Atlantan, at all.

  • It is a little worrying that this might just end up like a cheap Tomb Raider knock off (I am well aware where Tomb Raider's main influence came from).

    There was another Indy Game called The Infernal Machine. I never played it, but it looked like it was trying really hard to be a Tomb Raider, in both it's environments and gameplay style.

    I think Lucasarts should have stuck with the point and click thing, and I certainly hope that Spielberg sticks with the themes and mood of the old films.
  • well, actually i was thinking, gee are those things real?

    She had to stuff her bra. It was all over the news.

  • Aint it cool news was reporting on the possiblities of a 4th Indy movie for over 3 years now. And As of 2 years ago There were rumors of Film Crews scoping out underwater scenes for a possible indy movie. And back then the rumor was still atlantis. Rumors rumors rumors. Believe it when Lucas or Spielberg/speilberg errrr.... Announce it.
  • I think the "Last Crusade" the title of that movie refers to is the last crusade by the English, oh, what did they call them, oh, yeah. Crusaders. As in, people who went on a crusade. Yes, I know many people have read it as the last crusade of the Jones', but there's more than one way to look at it. As has been said before, though, this is probably just smoke, anyway.
  • He's made you feel guilty if you're German, American, white, human or even just 'orga' (for those who watched AI). What guilt trip could misanthropist Spielberg take you on in this movie? It's not like the Americans bombed the Atlantans, or the Atlantans were made slaves, or the Atlantans oppress teddy bears. My, my. Spielberg has a tough problem to solve here. But with the help of that genius scriptwriter George Lucas I'm sure they'll figure it out.
    --
  • My my. I always though Atlanta was just a myth - but it has its own web site so it must be real. Indiana Jones will have to find another mythical place to visit. Does Kansas really exist?
    --
  • I saw Harrison Ford on the Bravo show "Inside The Actors Studio" and he said that such a film would definitely happen.

    He had no time frame.

    Rich...

  • you call the temple of doom good? I think I spent most of the time cringing from the bad acting.
  • Before Episode 1 came out I used to read countingdown.com every day for info on Star Wars. At some point before their whole crew moved to the Mann Chineese Theatre in Holloywood the guy who ran the website mentioned that Paramount or whoever was talking. They were asking toy makers if they were interested in making toys for Indy4.

  • ...but I'm busy trying to figure what anime this was ripped-off from.
  • Which was the TRUE Indiana Jones movie?
    • Lost Ark
    • Temple of Doom
    • Holy Grail
  • by zpengo ( 99887 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:20PM (#105629) Homepage
    It's not news until it hits IMDB [imdb.com]. Until then, it's just vaporcinema.
  • That's 320x200. World of a difference (320x240 has a full 20% more pixels than 320x200!).

    Interestingly, the actual game area, if you subtract the area used for the verb-and-inventory UI, was far smaller: 320x143. That works out to a visual aspect ratio of 1.86:1, which is suspiciously close to 1.85:1, a standard aspect ratio used in many movies today. Fate of Atlantis was a bona-fide widescreen game, folks!

    For those keeping score, that's yet another reason to consider the classic pre-dumbed-down SCUMM interface the pinnacle of adventure game UI design.

    BTW, in case anyone was wondering, the Indy movies were all shot using Panavision, an anamorphic process that produces an even wider aspect ratio of 2.35:1.
    --
  • You're correct. There were eight Crusades [virgin.net], all in all. The one depicted in the movie would have been the ninth (and thus the last).
    --
  • Actually, I *loved* the interface.

    As did I! Perhaps you misunderstood my original post. I consider the Fate interface the pinnacle of adventure game UI design. This was before LucasArts decided to dumb things down (Sam and Max Hit the Road, Full Throttle, The Dig, and so on).

    The on-screen non-dismissable interface used in Fate and other classic LucasArts adventures may have taken up a significant amount of screen real estate, but it had the happy advantage of making the play area "widescreen", which made for a more cinematic experience. Clearly, this was intentional, because the aspect ratio was defined in a precise way, by dividing the screen at literally an odd point.
    --

  • by Torke ( 101454 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:15PM (#105637)
    Straight from the horses mouth: http://www.darkhorizons.com/news9/010703.htm [darkhorizons.com]

    Indiana Jones 4: The Calgary Sun talked with Steven Spielberg's producing partner Kathleen Kennedy who had some disheartening news for those eager to see a fourth Indy film: "The truth is there has been a lot of discussion amongst all of us connected with the film but to be honest there is no script because there isn't even a writer in place. It sounds like a slam dunk to do another Indiana Jones but you have to get everyone available and committed and then you have to get a screenplay that excites everyone. In reality that could probably take years".
  • Really? This was one of my favorite adventure games. It was really cool all the different ways that you could complete it, and had some of the nicest pixel graphics I've seen...
  • And Connery's going to turn 71 on August 25th (he must have been a very young father in the movie : ) - can you say "Stunt doubles"?
  • More than that - you have to drink it EVERY DAY according to the novization. The reason why the knight had grown so old was from the times where his faith wavered, and he failed to drink from the Grail, which caused normal aging to resume.

    I don't think that part of the expliation made it into the movie - for some reason, the book adaptation managed to stick in my head better than the movie (which is saying something - I thought the movie was great!)

    As for Henry Jones, Jr (Indy) - if ya ever get the chance, check out the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. He didn't age well at all, and is one seriously grumpy bastard.

    (Just noticed how bad my spelling sucked - the heck with the spell checker today...)

  • Ya know... it is possible to be older than 29, and still walk and run. 'Sides, if you yunguns get too uppity, the oldsters can just shoot ya.

    Seriously, the revulsion (fear?) of the young for the old is getting to me a bit as I get older myself. It is possible to date, use computers, run, and even have an adventure or two after you turn thirty.

  • Perhaps Hollywood could concentrate on one or two original movies this decade?
  • What is with all the "atlantis" hype lately??

    Its kind of funny how every year there is a big hype in the movies about something or other, one year is was dinosaurs, then tornadoes, then meteors wiping out the earth, and then come the cheaper productions usually a year or so later which are based on one of these particular themes.

    Sometimes it can make you wonder about the creativity in Hollywood, I mean take a look at Tomb Raider, even it had something to do with Atlantis...

    Oh, well. A movie with Sean Connery and Harrison Ford can't be all that bad, their screen presence alone usually makes up for most of the flaws in the the theme or plot.

    Nathaniel P. Wilkerson
    .biz and .info for $13
  • I saw the film several months ago and realized how truly awful it is. I think the high point of hilarity is the one 70 mm shot they took of Ford on the rope bridge at the end... it sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the 35 mm scenes that surround it. Not to disparage the other two movies (which were quite good), but Temple of Doom could be repackaged by the MST3K folks for the next box set and some people might actually be able to enjoy it!
  • by vex24 ( 126288 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:07PM (#105654) Homepage
    Oh great, another Indiana Jones movie, that's just terrific. Oh wait, that is good news! I suppose I've been reading too much /. lately. :)
  • YES!!! All I can say is, YES!!!!!. Now all we need is a 4th Back to the Future, which through rumors I hear may be coming.. unfortunately no M. J. Fox :(, and the rest of the Unbreakable trilogy and I will die a happy man.
  • Actually, I was just whistling the theme before I loaded /. I wonder what will happen if I whistle the Titanic theme while visiting /. That would be an interesting sequel...
  • Even before the LucasArts game "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine", there was "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis". FoA was an excellent game with great story on par with the Mokney Island series. FoA came out around 1991, I believe.

    Cryptnotic

  • (chuckle)

    usually someone else comes along and explains things, but no one else did, so here goes...

    Ernesto Miranda was murdered later in life. The only suspect in the case refused to testify, claiming his 'Miranda right' to remain silent. Thus, the irony. Miranda's murder and subsequent investigation have absolutely nothing to do with the case you refer to.

    Additionally, I get some pretty vicious replies to my sig, which make it all the more worthwhile. :)

  • Before the video game in 1992, there was Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis [dormanart.com] in 1991.
  • To conceal the age of the actors. Will Indy turn in his whip for a cane? I guess Connery will have to turn in his cane for a walker.

    Maybe the villains in this installment can all be members of the Rolling Stones...

  • Now that Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace is coming out on DVD, I think you will see the Indiana Jones movies on DVD within a year or so.

    If I remember correctly, one reason why Spielberg wouldn't release the movies he directed on DVD format for some years was the fact that they lacked DTS surround sound encoding. Now that DTS-encoded DVD discs are commonly available (and most good-quality A/V-receivers have DTS decoding built-in), you're starting to see Spielberg-directed movies on DVD.
  • by Xoro ( 201854 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @04:12PM (#105692)

    Yep, but this one is worse. At least episode 1 could give us a new cast, but Ford isn't getting any younger. I'm picturing a fat old mess of an Indiana Jones, done up in a tuxedo in some Las Vegas dressing room... Gimme a stage, where this bull can rage...

    I have big fears this will turn out badly.

    Anyway, here are my top 10 picks for the title of the new movie:

    10. Indiana Jones and the Quest for Fiber

    9. Indiana Jones and Siegfried and Roy

    8. Indiana Jones Has Fallen and He Can't Get Up

    7. Indiana Jones and the Planet of the Apes

    6. Indiana Jones and the Tomb of Indiana Jones

    5. Indiana Jones and the Fat Paycheck

    4. Indiana Jones and the Stone of Kidneys

    3. Indiana Jones and the Kids Today, Oy! They Call That Music? What.

    2. Indiana Jones and the Lost Erection

    1. Grumpy Old Indiana Jones

    Good luck pulling this one off.

  • And no jar-jar.

    AND NO KATE CAPSHAW!! God, the Temple of Doom was hard to sit through... Ugh!

    - Spryguy
  • from the i-hate-rats dept.

    I know it's been 12 years since the last movie, but come on, it's snakes he hates, not rats. His father is the one who hated rats.


    Maybe CmdrTaco hates rats, too?
  • If you re-watch the flic you'll see that in order for the water to be effective, you have to keep drinking it over time, lest the effects wear off. As it so happens, Indie's dad got to drink it (and have it poured on him) once, and he never actually got to sip it or anything.

    Thus, Indiana Jones is fully mortal, and his dad's small drink probably didn't buy him enough years to even matter or look out of place.

  • by unformed ( 225214 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:22PM (#105703)
    Lucas is making it, can't watch it on my DVD player

    oh wait, yes i can, that's what we've got China for
  • I can agree with that. From the article, Harrison ford is 59. Sean, I'm guessing, is pushing what, 70? 75?

    Can we seriously epect a lot in the way of extreme exertion out of these two?

    Both Ford and Connery are in great shape, and they can do a hell of a lot wit' dem newfangled computer-thingies these days, but I would be kidding if I said I wasn't going to be watching a possible IJ4 the same way I watched Trek 6:

    "Damn, Deforest Kelly's gettin' up there. How long you think he has left?"
  • This is great! In the first film, Indy went looking for the Ark, fought Nazis and killed a bunch of them.
    In the second film, Indy went looking for a magic potato, fought the Thuggees and killed almost all of them.
    In the third film, Indy went looking for the holy grail and killed Nazis again.

    Now, in the fourth film, Indy can go find a lost underground continent and kill all the... Gungans!

  • Nah. I'd vote for River Phoenix since he did such a good job at the beginning of "Last Crusade." Oh, wait a minnit...damn.

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  • It depends on when you ask Spielberg. In the Raiders 20th Anniversary issue of "Star Wars Insider", Spielberg's quoted as saying "I want to make a promise, Indiana Jones is coming back soon." Apparently, Lucas is the holdup (again). The "other movies" have been occupying his time. Ford, Connery, etc. all seem to be waiting for "those other movies" to be done. One of the writers on "The Last Crusade" apparently had a rough draft of the 4th screenplay all set before he passed away.
    So, in a few words: It's not entirely false.
  • Indy in Atlantis isn't a reaction to recent interest in the subject due to Disney's well crafted (if incredibly stupid) adventure pic. It's been kicked around since Last Crusade...in fact, there was a LucasArts SCUMM(tm) game that stuck Indy in a search for atlantis...it might have been his best. At least the puzzles were intriguing and different, unlike those in the SCUMM Last Crusade. There was also a Fate of Atlantis novelization.

    As for Harrison being too old, it's been my understanding that he's supposed to play an aging IJ in the film, one who's starting to get a bit quirky but still able to throw down with whoever's in his path. I could see it being set easily in the mid 50s or early 60s, maybe with some serious cold war overtones (hell, get Tom Clancy to write it for a real Battle of the Adventure Flick Stars).

    Anyway, as long as he isn't playing young Han Solo in the third Star Wars pic, I think it's great to hear about Ford doing adventure. After all, he was one of the heros of my youth...hell, it's he and Rick Hunter that inspired me to grow this constantly scruffy hairdo.
  • One of the networks ran this story on the news this morning, along with a few recent clips of Harrison Ford at some unnamed Hollywood function.

    He looked old enough to play Sean Connery's father.

  • There won't be any nazis. Speilberg has said he couldn't direct 'comic book' nazis after making "Schindler's List". He finally got a clue that these were evil SOBs, not cartoon character bad guys.

    So maybe it could be set post-war, in the late 40's; that would only make in ten years or so after the first three movies.

  • by BIGJIMSLATE ( 314762 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:16PM (#105729)
    This has been kicked around for years.

    We've already heard every rumor under the sun, from M. Night Shyamalan writiting the script, to even Lucas himself directing it (after Episode III of course), and even that it would be released mid-2002 (too late!).

    Then when "Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine" came out, the rumors all focused on the game developers, and how they (falsely) hinted that the next Indy movie went beyond all the Nazi-bashing stuff from the first three (aw...killing Nazis was so much fun though...), and that it might take place in an African/Tropical climate, or even have something to do with the Cold War with Russia.

    But let's look at it this way, Speilberg and Ford are most likely booked for the next few years, and Lucas will almost definately be busy until 2005 or so. Maybe THEN the three of them will have enough time to write a decent script, get old Connery back (assuming he doesn't get arrested for shooting Lorn Michaels before then), and actually make this movie.

    So, I don't believe this is "newsworthy", especially since a PR Rep at Paramount put it so perfectly:

    "These rumours come round every couple of months. It's idle gossip."
  • by bark76 ( 410275 ) on Thursday July 05, 2001 @02:20PM (#105734)
    from the i-hate-rats dept.

    I know it's been 12 years since the last movie, but come on, it's snakes he hates, not rats. His father is the one who hated rats.

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