Used ICBM Silo For Sale, "Cheap" 258
sprzepiora writes "An Atlas ICBM silo is for sale on E-Bay. Place your bids now, because it's only $1.5E6! Includes such amenities as: 1100 gallon hot tub, sauna,3 finished baths, 47 ton garage door, 66,000 lb. bank of batteries, chemical and bioligical air filtration, and more!" This is cool just to lust after. Of course its in Kansas (yeah I know, I'm in michigan, whats the difference, right?)
Wow (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Wow (Score:2)
I want to be the first to play with the asbestos.
please?
Not just One Hole in the Ground (Score:2)
I wonder if there's any in my neck of the woods? Probably not, since most of California is laced with fault lines and was probably all primary target anyway. I bet there's some in Michigan, in da U.P., eh?
Re:Not just One Hole in the Ground (Score:2)
Down in lower Michigan though, there are the old Minuteman silos at the Grosse Ile airport, but I think those are all sealed up. And probably full of water seeped in from Lake Erie/Detroit River.
The one time... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:The one time... (Score:1)
We know where are tax dollars went. (Score:1)
Re:We know where are tax dollars went. (Score:2, Informative)
I do like the idea of using the silo as a scuba diving tank though (they did that at one site).
Userfriendly.org? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Userfriendly.org? (Score:2)
ICBM Silo (Score:1)
1100 Gallons? (Score:1)
Re:You think that's impressive? (Score:2, Funny)
Somewhere in the former Soviet Union... (Score:5, Funny)
On the other hand, I guess that's the purpose for the 47-ton garage door.
Re:Somewhere in the former Soviet Union... (Score:2)
simple first strike (Score:2)
Of course it all depends on how fast the other guy's warning system and missile commanders are. This is where all that trillion dollar hardware and design comes into play.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
FYI I was SAC at FE Warren AFB, Wy.
Out response is incredible fast.
If you have ever seen WarGames then you know exactly how a missle base isn't.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
How many minutes does it take to decide if you are going to destroy the world or not, based solely on a preliminary evaluation of missile trajectories?
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
I happen to work in the commercial satellite business, and our spacecraft are designed to be easy to track, exactly the opposite of nuclear warheads. We "range" (that is, track the satellite position) for about 15 minutes every two hours in order to determine the satellite orbit precisely (about 10 meters error). And those are satellites whose approximate orbits we have calculated beforehand.
With five minutes of ranging an enemy warhead, you have enough data to know the missile will hit somewhere between Chicago and Denver.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
Last time I checked, the area between Chicago and Denver was US territory. I don't really care which hamlet is the target.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
The nuclear stalemate started with MAD - Mutual Assured Destruction - when each side had enough warheads to destroy each other's country many times over.
Then one general, I don't know in which side, thought, why destroy their cities; if we destroy their missiles they won't have anything to fire at us. And they started targeting missiles at silos, based on the rationale that an attack would be so fast that the other side (maybe) wouldn't have enough time to decide if they should fire their missiles before they were hit or not.
Fortunately for everyone, there was enough slack in the calculations that no one ever felt safe enough to start a full-scale nuclear attack based on that rationale.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
Except when it is a training tape put in the computer accidentally. This is something that supposedly has happened in both the U.S. and U.S.S.R. Notice that civilization still exists, which suggests that both countries were not so "hair trigger" that they can't deal with such glitches. From what I hear, though, the Ruskies came close. (Geekoid, I don't suppose you have any info and can discuss our "close call"?)
That is why you don't necessarily want to "launch on warning". That is why the Ruskies would target our missile silos even when they KNOW that we could empty them by the time their missiles impact... it doesn't necessarily mean that we would do so. Launch on warning is more accident prone than "launch on verification." Twenty to Thirty minutes still isn't a long time to decide whether to destroy civilization or not when there are unknowns that have to be tracked down (like in the aforementioned "training accident" problem). You can't call back those ICBMs if you find out that the launch was a mistake a few seconds after they leave the silos. In theory the first strike attacker could hope that the defending nation would mistakenly conclude the attack wasn't real, or would at least not be sure enough that it was real that they would be willing to authorize ending society as we know it. The fact that we did not accidentally incinerate ourselves during the Cold War suggests that we were not on such a "hair trigger" and that this first strike theory did have a chance of working. Fortunately the Soviets never felt it had a good enough chance to pull it off and they were willing to collapse as a society before they were willing to "roll the dice and take their chances."* But then again, we did have a triad of deterence instead of one system.
Targeting "empty silos" also forces the attacked nation to "use them or lose them" in the first strike. RVs in the first strike have a better chance of fratriciding ea. other due to all the nukes going off in a short period of time. Such ICBMs also will not be available (because they were either launched or destroyed) for "cleaning up" targets that might have been missed in the 1st strike and needed to be attacked again, forcing the use of less survivable or less accurate delivery systems like bombers or boomers.
Yeah, they targeted our silos. Yeah, we could have emptied them before their RVs hit. Yeah, they presumably knew that. It was still a descent targeting strategy anyway. What scares me is the recent revelations that they also planned to finish off our population centers with smallpox laden RVs as well. You should never underestimate those Commies.
* Which means that the rest of us owe Geekoid and the other people who were at SAC a word of thanks that we arrived at the 21st century neither dead or Red (unless you live in Cuba or the PRC... sorry guys, we'll free you when we can). Thanks.
Re:simple first strike (Score:2)
Only if you're talking about an ICBM launched from Russian (or former Soviet) territory at the continental United States (or vice versa).
If it's a depressed-trajectory shot launched from a ballistic missile submarine parked off the East or West coast, it's all over in seven minutes.
Seven minutes. Enough time for a last cigarette.
k., proud member of the "Duck 'n' Cover Generation".
Open Source Game? (Score:2)
'Things are going well and tensions are declining, and all of a sudden the game drops into "real time mode" the alarms go off. The Enemy calls up on the hotline (you did develop and implement The Hotline didn't you?) and says that one of their units has gone rogue (maybe you should have given or leaked Advanced Weapons Control Methods to them) and launched a nuclear tipped ICBM at one of your cities, "It isn't a deliberate attack, please, PLEASE, don't retaliate against our innocent civilians for the crimes of one madman." What do you do? Or everything looks fine, tensions are low, although sunspot activity is running high. Then your Air Defense Command reports a sudden first strike. Only some of the sensors are giving confusing or conflicting data. It could be a computer or sensor glitch; The Enemy has no reason to launch now. If you don't launch before the RVs hit (perhaps you should have invested in Mobile Launchers) then most of your ICBMs will be wiped out in their silos. What do you do?'
To get a really good sim of nuclear brinksmanship you'd need to have other countries that could have alliances, critical resources, their own nukes (of course), etc. 'Tensions are running high between you and Nuclear Power A, when all of a sudden atomic explosions start lighting up your cities (Suitcase Nukes? Stealth?) and sabotage takes out several of your units. Nuclear Power A is the obvious culprit... except that it could also be Nuclear Power B that is trying to use current tensions to get you and A to wipe ea. other out. Do you launch against A, against B, against everybody*?'
You'd also want to simulate some basic level of internal economics and politics so that nations could change attitude and power, The Senate could overrule your decisions if your position wasn't "secure" enough, or leaders could get deposed without a shot being fired (the ultimate victory... or loss). That would mean adding non-state actors (like terrorists, revolutionaries, legitimate and "faked" protest groups) and some level of psychological warfare. "Are you sure you want to order all the major cities evacuated, Mr. President? That could hurt your approval rating and our economy considerably. If you are wrong..."
Oh, and to make the most of it you'd want to add non-nuclear weapons, so you could have Chemical, Biological, and Conventional, arms races and wars along with Nuclear. Although non-nuclear "hot" wars would need great simplification in order to keep the interface manageable. 'You are losing a very important conventional war involving several major allies with critical resources and bases. Releasing the use of tactical nuclear weapons would turn the tide. Doing so could also escalate to a strategic nuclear exchange. Without your allies resources you will not be able to maintain your current weapon parity with The Enemy. What do you do?'
If done properly and OBJECTIVELY then it could also be a useful teaching tool on Grand Strategy, Games Theory, and The Cold War. Maybe you could even have it so you could alter physics or human nature or add "exotic" weapons to the game to experiment with hypothetical scenarios. A player could try to emulate Stalin or Kennedy, they could try arms reduction talks (trust but verify) with peaceful co-existence or sneak attacks, they could wage "limited" wars or test out that Nuclear Winter theory (something else that might could be customized). Of course, you'd want a multiplayer version. You can see why I have never even bothered to write it... it is a HUGE project. Quite beyond my abilities and free time.
But, perhaps The Bazaar could do it. I have put the idea in the public domain, is anyone willing and capable of pursuing it?
* A wargasm as they say, and my likely response.
You silly (Score:2)
One of our base... (Score:3, Funny)
(Considering what the owner probably paid for it, and the improvements made, any handymen might seriously want to consider purchasing old silos and reconditioning them. Fun and profitable!)
Kansas? Who Cares? (Score:5, Funny)
The only problem with the place is that it's not nearly as secret as it once was. I'd pay twice what the going price for this thing is, if only it *wasn't* plastered all over EBay. It's a bit hard to make plans to rule the known universe when everyone and their dog is coming by just to see "that mad rocket guy that lives in a bunker in Kansas".
Of course, there's always price-of-admission revenue for signed photo's. Oh, and I suppose there'd be a plentiful supply of fresh human brain matter to plunder for the "MegaBrain Computer" experiment.
Well, off to feed the kitty
Re:Kansas? Who Cares? (Score:2)
tourist step in, Brain washed hypno-drones step out.!MUahahaha
Re:Kansas? Who Cares? (Score:4, Funny)
I, on the other hand, would pay extra to make sure that everyone knew which silo it was that no longer held an ICBM.
Especially the people who might have loaded silos of their own.
-- MarkusQ
Wamego, Kansas - now strategic deterrant free! (Score:2)
-This message brought to your by the Wamego Chamber of Commerce.
Re:Conspiracy theory (Score:2, Funny)
GWB: No Mr Putin, we didnt fire the missile, we sold that silo back in 2001, it was sold to a Miss Chech Nya, I can fax you the bill of sale if you like..
Re:Kansas? Who Cares? (Score:2)
It's always so easy to identify people who have never taken LSD--they're the ones who speak of "bad trips" and "flashbacks" and all that COINTELPRO fiction. Maybe you can leave the world of the naïve and join the world of John F. Kennedy, Cary Grant, Carl Sagan, Huston Smith, and other examples of highly effective people who have tripped on LSD.
You must have gotten these statistics from the Dealers of Ecstacy Agency [usdoj.gov], who must be the ones selling all the drugs, since they seem to know so much about the quantities, prices, etc. Have you noticed that their shingle reads "Drug Enforcement Administration" rather than "Drug Law Enforcement Administration"? It appears they are forcing everyone to take drugs, since per capita consumption of illegal drugs has increased even though over 1,000,000 people are currently jailed on drug charges and over $17,000,000,000 has been stolen from drug users/sellers to finance the police state.
If all the bad things they said about illegal drugs were true, the ground would be piled about three feet deep with all the bodies of people who jump from buildings in anticipation of flying, and 50% of men would have to wear B- or C-cup bras to hold their enlarged breasts. Alas, the voices of science and reason have been drowned by the baseless rhetoric of politicians. Thank you, Mister Gunnery Sergeant, for serving as such a fine example of the effectiveness of semantic programming.
Net? (Score:1)
Re:Net? (Score:1)
Re:Net? (Score:2)
Jeez... (Score:3, Funny)
I would just jump all over this deal, except that right now, my stock options aren't worth as much as they used to be...
timing.. (Score:1)
Is it just me... (Score:3, Funny)
OTOH, I can see the benefits: "Target acquired: Redmond is onscreen..."
Kansas?! (Score:1)
Who's djblue42? (Score:2)
Damn! Can they leave him a zillion negative feedbacks at once for backing out of such an expensive auction?!
Re:Who's djblue42? (Score:1, Funny)
The price is right. (Score:2)
Maybe he's using bay area apartments for price comparison. If you take the NPV of the cash flow stream, it comes out about right, and I'll bet it's much better per square foot.
-- MarkusQ
Who's missilebases? (Score:2)
Re:Who's djblue42? (Score:2)
Actually, real estate auctions on Ebay aren't binding... You need to read the polices and conduct page, buddy:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/png-estate.h
So bid away! Bid a billion! Offers to buy real estate aren't binding until you sign a Purchase and Sale Agreement, no matter what your feedback rating is.
Maybe Saddam Hussein, also... (Score:3, Funny)
Osama bin Laden will surely bid on this.
ABC News article: "Abu Sayyaf
Other dream homes.... (Score:3)
Sounds like a secure web server / data site to me (Score:3, Interesting)
Did you say nuke-proof? Well, maybe, unless as someone pointed out earlier, the Russians have your home address locked directly into one of their nukes...
MadCow
Re:Sounds like a secure web server / data site to (Score:2)
Re:Sounds like a secure web server / data site to (Score:2)
Good secure hosting site (Score:4, Interesting)
The cool part: it was in a retired federal bank. Literally a fortress: fully bulletproof, tempest-shielded, multiple sub-basements, iron gates and fully enclosed by fences or walls, the works.
The ICBM silo gets me thinking about the same thing. They have on-site power generation and battery backup and an obviously pretty damn secure setup. So, why not open a secure hosting facility? It's not HavenCo/Sealand [havenco.com], but it's not bad.
The main problem is it's in the middle of nowhere (Mapquest link [mapquest.com] ), about 50 miles from Topeka. Paying the local loop charges for dedicated (and redundant) Internet access is probably going to cost a fortune.
Re:Good secure hosting site (Score:3, Insightful)
And it doesn't for HavenCo/Sealand? Which is easier...running a line on dry (flat) land or over a body of water?
Besides, this type of situtation is what wireless is for. Come to think of it, HavenCo/Sealand uses wireless for a couple of their links (IIRC).
The real question...when the FBI comes knocking...will they be able to get in? I don't know if they have the equipment to take out a 47-ton door...but you better fill that silo with food and supplies because the second you step out you are theirs.
- JoeShmoe
FBI-proof? Good for a Church! (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Good secure hosting site (Score:2)
In the silo, you'd want at least two independent pipes coming in; the specifics depend on what's available, good and cost-effective. But at least one would probably involve a local loop charge by the phone company, and would be a significant monthly expense in addition to whatever else is paid for the upstream Internet link. As an example, the U. where I work pays $2000/month for a single pair of dark fiber totalling less than 1 kilometer.
Anyway, I agree that whoever has $1.5M for the silo can afford the cost of the Internet service. The question is whether they can make any money running a secure ISP or co-lo that way!
In case you haven't noticed, all the big ISP/hosting/co-lo/outsourcing providers seem to be located in or near phone company buildings, NAPs or MAEs. Apart from providing a reasonably secure facility with good network access, these offer the benefit of not needing to pay for distance from the telco building.
Re:Good secure hosting site (Score:2)
You lease dark fiber when you want to connect your own equipment to it at either end. The fiber is lit, but the U. doesn't need to pay for it (any more than they do to connect any other buildings or locations; that is, it's internal, part of the campus network). The U. lights it itself, but doesn't need to pay the phone company (Bell South) except to lease the fiber.
This is very typical at big universities, school districts, and other organizations that have multiple locations in a metropolitan area. It's used to connect off-campus offices etc. to the campus backbone. I'm sure some companies do it, too, if they have multiple offices in a relatively small area.
BTW, you're right that only phone companies and cable companies (and maybe a few other lucky players) own dark fiber. But, like any good whore, they're happy to sell it to you....for a little while.
Re:Good secure hosting site (Score:1)
They're all in the middle of nowhere... (Score:2)
There's two properties available in Texas (Near Abilene...), two good ones in NY around the Adirondaks, another site in Central, KS, and one in Oklahoma near Altus. These are more for eccentrics than just rich people. They're for people that want to be left alone at all costs or want a nice integrated space for their business (which is what it looks like the Wamego site was being used for...) albeit underground.
More silos for sale.... (Score:1, Redundant)
Just go here: http://www.missilebases.com [missilebases.com]
Good commute, excellent schools. (Score:2)
This looks like just the kind of compound a cult or cell would love. Easily defensible, low visibility.
Anyone else thinking this is a gov't honeypot?
Alternative uses for the silo (Score:4, Funny)
This silo is screaming for an entrepreneur. Now if I can only get in the Corporate Welfare line for some of that $70 Billion action...
Re:Alternative uses for the silo (Score:2, Insightful)
Huge fan to fly around in -- I did that! (Score:2)
Believe it or not, there was a place in Las Vegas in the mid 80s that did that. They turned a jet engine up in the air and you could fly around in this chamber. I think the place was called "Fly Away" (?).
They would put several people in at a time, and everyone wore these "flying suits" which had pockets for the air to catch in. Only one person would fly around at time, because they had to adjust the air flow to match your weight. There was a cricle of cushions that lined the chamber that everyone waited on.
Smaller people seemed to do better than bigger people. My buddy who was maybe 5'6", weighing 130 tops flew around easily. My being 6' 2" about 200 pounds required a lot more air power. :) When you have that much wind power, any small adjustment that you make in your "control surfaces" (i.e., arms and legs) makes a huge difference in how fast you move around. I made the mistake of cocking one leg slightly out and the other leg slightly in, and caused myself to spin around at great speed. :)
It was a lot of fun, but it was very expensive. It eventually died. Probably cost too much, and I'm sure the insurance was insane, even though they made you sign a monster disclaimer that you understood that you might die from the experience.
Re:Huge fan to fly around in -- I did that! (Score:2)
Whoa -- I guess I spoke too soon about them being dead. Here they are [lvindex.com].
Re:Prop engine, not jet (Score:2)
Also, the baggy suit was what made all the difference. You had to wear a pair of coveralls (you can see them in the link in Reality Masters additional post) that had vent holes to fill up with air and help your total surface area and therefore lift.
(Please don't flame me if I don't have the science of the aerodynamics right.
Re: Pot (Score:2)
Re:Grow a lot of pot! (Score:2)
Here's a link to the original SF Gate / SF Chronicle article. It's an interesting article...
[sfgate.com]
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=
Great Colo Site (Score:1)
Hmm, this make a far better colo than even the ex-Bell System CO's. You know the ones, the pre-breakup buildings that all look alike and have 2ft thick walls and floors that can hold scans of equipment and survive a nuking.
Especially given the fact that these already have scads of high quality power runs, those pretty Tempest enforced wire paths for comm cabling, and hellacious power backup prebuilt, etc., this price is a fraction of what it cost to build out something a facility like this.
This would be the place for a startup hosting company with the vc cash of 2 years ago to make a real run at it. Wish I had it!
Re:Great Colo Site (Score:2)
This is such a sweet deal. (Score:1)
I know a guy who has a fat folder of business plans and research papers detailing just exactly what it would take to create an indestructable, cant-be-taken-down, freedom forever ISP. This would be exactly the kind of facility he'd need (Are you out there James?)..
Too bad there was insufficient investment.
Could User Friendly guys be the seller... (Score:2)
Web Site? (Score:1)
Call me a Karma whore! (Score:2)
Woot!
What one looks like before it's all dressed up (Score:5, Interesting)
Incidentally, I lived in Topeka for some time, and I got to go to one of these abandoned silos, back around 92 or 93...there was a freaky survivalist dude living there, surrounded by all his guns and barrels of water...and I got to go stand where, at one time, there was a ICBM, ready to go...remembering the cold war dominated world that I grew up in, it was very, very surreal.
nice (Score:2, Funny)
Phew - I was worried for a second.
Unique, historic, functional property.
That's good, because I've good, because with this [ebay.com] and a few more items, our rocket [tripoli.org] will be ready to move in!
note: this is meant to be funny!
Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority (Score:1)
1. The original National Command Post in Denton, TX., was sold for a measly $50K. This is not the FEMA command post but rather the 1950s version. Nothing interesting left down there, but still mad scientist quarters on the cheap.
2. This would be a very nice secure site for web services. Who cares if they know about it, try and get past the door. Plus you can laze about in the jacuzzi with your internet babes.
3. I've driven past that town and had no clue it was there.
4. What were they doing putting a silo launch center in the middle of a town? Makes you wonder how many 'secret' targets still exist in residential areas.
5. Having a launch silo center in your town truly gives you 'Neighborhood Nuclear Superiority'.
6. Finally, you have got to wonder about the fellow that bought this thing and built a party palace in it. Assuming this isn't just a lark or an investment, it takes some serious weird to actually buy and outfit the thing for residential use.
What's the difference? eh... cos... (Score:1)
Maybe because you're not in Kansas anymore?
(Can anybody believe that I got that post in so early... fff me I must be drunk).
cheers
front
PCBs and asbestos (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:PCBs and asbestos (Score:2)
PCBs and dioxin aren't as safe, but neither is it as bad as most people think. In 1976 an explosion scattered huge amounts of PCBs over Seveso, Italy. No fatalities or cancer cases are known to have come from this incident. A NIOSH study of U.S. workers exposed to high (a couple of orders of magnitude higher than the U.S. exposure maximum exposure) quantities of dioxin showed no increase in cancer or other fatal conditions. Unfortunately it is not harmless. In high quantities it does cause a severe skin rash called chloracne. If you value your complextion you will want to avoid large amouonts of PCBs and dioxin.
On the other hand, if you are a techie from San Fransisco with acne, then you probably don't have much to lose... Just kidding. Even if you don't get killed by the contamination you may still be responsible for its clean up costs. Congratulations, you just bought a Superfund site.
Of course its for sale... (Score:3, Funny)
Survivor 4: ICBM Silo (Score:2, Interesting)
Will they ship? (Score:1)
Other missile silos available for less money (Score:3, Informative)
Sure, this one is super expensive, but if you look at their web site, what's really intriguing is that they have other properties for sale [missilebases.com] that are much cheaper -- because they're in, ahem, rough condition. Probably saturated with rocket fuel and dioxins, but what the hell. You're young. You're immortal. Why not go for it!
For instance, you can pick up a 16 acre missile base in Winters, TX for $199,000. The web site mentions that the silo is "stripped of structure with app. 100' water depth. Seller eager."
Now THAT's a big hot-tub. Anyone know the diameter of one of those launch silos? Care to figure out how many gallons that comes to? You'd have the biggest hot tub in the world, if you could afford to heat it.
Another 11 acre missile base is available in Shep, TX for only $169,000, and, I love this, the missile silo is described as "used for scuba diving adventures." Woo hoo!
Still another 22 acre site is available in Creta, OK, for $133,000. Now that's almost affordable!
Even if you don't have a cool million to spend, the possibility of owning your own missile silo lies tantalizingly in reach to the eager geek
Lotsa fun to dream, isn't it
Re:Other missile silos available for less money (Score:2)
>
> Now THAT's a big hot-tub. Anyone know the diameter of one of those launch silos? Care to figure out how many gallons that comes to? You'd have the biggest hot tub in the world, if you could afford to heat it.
Easy. That's what the missile's for. ;-)
Re:Other missile silos available for less money (Score:2, Informative)
In missle silos the presence of water typically means that the silo door leaks when it rains. The sealing of the door is typically the first step in turning it into a residence.
maru
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Deja Vu (Score:1)
Yeah, but... (Score:1)
First Strike Target (Score:2)
- StaticLimit
Re:First Strike Target (Score:2)
-Commander, we just checked up the new pics. They are a bit blurred due to those high altitude blasts but still we can discern some activity in Kansas...
-Oh, oh, oooooh... What's that object over there?
- Well it's a nuclear silo but, according to our data, it was decomissioned several years ago...
-And the tracks? What about those pickups over there? And that shiny swimming pool is also 20 years old? Damn how americans live... Blasting everything around and having a 5 star hotel in a military zone...
-Well, our agents didn't informed about any revitalization of old bases... Maybe it's...
-Soldier ARE YOU BLIND? DON'T YOU SEE WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOURS EYES????? THEY ALREADY REVITALIZED IT!!!! BLOW THEM UP!!!!
Silo or base? Previous Owners (Score:2, Interesting)
Also, I believe this property was seized as part of a drug bust. Story goes that the previous owner/occupants were producing pounds of acid. I can't find the article to confirm if this is infact the site.
Formerly a drug factory. (Score:4, Interesting)
There is also an article in Rolling Stong from July 5th, 2001 titled "The Acid King" about Leonard Pickard. The missle silo was owned by Todd Skinner, a shady bussinessman(drug dealer) who laundered money, trafficed drugs, and who knows what else. He made deals with the DEA to save his own ass many times, getting many of if friends imprisoned for life. Another example of America's idiotic war on drugs.
With a little spit and polish... (Score:2)
You know, these are tense times... people are fraught with the notions of impending cataclysm at the hands of bio/chemical terror... or worse...
What can be done about this?
Exploitation!
"The Hotel Sanctuary"
Yes that's right, throw in with seed money, renovate the hell out of the place, add rooms, a five star chief... a nice club... "spa"... and then book the hell out of it and horrifically inflated prices! No... seriously out of line prices... I mean Macaulay Caulkin (the home alone kid) levels of exploitation here...
Tag line: "Your Own little Camp David!"
A shining beacon of capitalism during our nation's darkest hours. This is why we enjoy twenty-four hour grocery stores and a nation of connected roads damnit, this my friends, is the American way.
Re:With a little spit and polish... (Score:2)
Not quite, this thing was started september 5th, when only a handful of survivalist nuts were too terribly concerned about an impending cataclysm. I guess he just happened to be selling at the right time.
damn damn damn... always a day late and a dollar short. i blame my parents for sending me to a state college.
Only on Slashdot... (Score:5, Funny)
The Auction Ended.. (Score:2, Interesting)
Sure hope this was a gag auction after all, or else djblue42 is gonna have hell to pay...
Hey this is better then.... (Score:2)
diff(Michigan, Kansas) (Score:2)
There's a lot less beach-front property in Kansas
(Score: -1, Not funny; Moderator is a Huskers fan)
So cool (Score:2)
Shipping and handling? (Score:2)
Here's the missles to complete your collection (Score:2)
Wamego, Kansas--LSD lab (Score:2)
Here's [cannabisnews.com]an article originally from the San Francisco Chronicle about the LSD missile silo situation. IIRC, there was also a big article about it in Rolling Stone a while ago, but I don't have the issue around to check.
Re:hmm... was $250,000 before it went on E-bay (Score:2, Interesting)