Hitchhiker's Guide DVD to be released on January 28 196
hitchhacker writes "It looks like The BBC series version of 'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' is being released on DVD January 28, 2002. 'disc set contains all six episodes from the classic BBC sci-fi comedy as well 10 minutes of additional footage which was cut to acheive the 30 minute run time. Also included are a few additional features - making of, deleted scenes, interviews and more.'" CD: Word has it that this is a region 2 dvd.
Region 2? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Region 2? (Score:1)
Re:Region 2? (Score:4, Informative)
It is simple and it works. I use it all the time to view R1 DVDs with my R2 PS2. Your TV has to be capable of outputting the PAL source though, which is one area where Europe has an advantage. Our TVs these days are almost always PAL/NTSC compatible, whereas US TVs rarely have PAL compatibility.
You have to get an NTSC version of DVD Region X. I know it exists, but I don't know where you buy it. The PAL version is widely available and is made by Datel Electronics.
Finally, you can plug in codes from the website [dvdregionx.com], if you update your PS2 DVD driver version.
Re:Region 2? (Score:2)
Re:Region 2? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Region 2? (Score:2)
And how do regions... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:And how do regions... (Score:1)
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Regardless, there's nothing to keep you from using css-cat to rip the DVDs then convert them to NTSC SVCDs with TMPGEnc. If it was originally shot on film and not video, you can convert to NTSCFilm and use Goldwave to do the 25/23.976 length conversion on the audio like with the Buffy DVDs.
Re:And how do regions... (Score:2, Informative)
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My own player uses NTSC by default (all the menus are in black & white if you view it through the tuner), but using an RGB cable fixes that.
Re:And how do regions... (Score:5, Funny)
Well, if you can't even view it outside of a single DVD region, it's not much of a guide to the galaxy, now is it?
Re:And how do regions... (Score:1)
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This I gotta see (Score:2)
And it's too bad they're doing reigon crap for this. Don't they know that H2G2 is an international phenomenon with millions of fans? Or are they going to release a special 'americanized' version? >:(
Re:This I gotta see (Score:3, Insightful)
Different companies have different rights areas; the BBC will want to release a R1 version for NTSCers out there, but it's not such a high priority for a company which is resoundingly Region 2. Also, BBC discs are released by Fox in the States, who won't want their area treaded upon. Complain to them.
Maybe also the rights to HHGTTG are owned by someone else; "Monty Python's Flying Circus" and "The Avengers" are owned by A&E, for example.
Now you get all the problems we have every time something cool is released in the States that we can't get; e.g. "Almost Famous" bootleg cut, Monty Python series box sets, Criterion "Life of Brian" and so on. That's why a lot of British people (including me, and most of uk.media.dvd) have their players modded. You should too, even if it's just a DVD-ROM drive [club-internet.fr] and DVD player software [inmatrix.com] (or a H+ hardware card [hplus.hu].) Enjoy a whole new world!
Remember the movie? (Score:5, Funny)
If only Douglas Adams had lived to see... (Score:1, Funny)
Also, if he'd only lived to see the leader of the free world being assaulted by a pretzel! How pathetic and bizarre, yet hilarious...it would appeal to his twisted, brilliant sense of humor.
Of course, Adams would have known that there is more to the story than meets the eye [subintsoc.net]...
HGTTG Saved My Life (Score:3, Interesting)
Whooohooo!!! (Score:1)
My favorite was the poor, pathetic depressed robot. Some days I take after him just a wee bit too much
42!!!!
Re:Whooohooo!!! (Score:2, Informative)
According to DNA, Marvin (the Robot) was heavily based on a real person - the script writer Andrew Marshall. "2point4 Children" (UK TV series) is probably his best known work.
You can see the rest listed at imdb.com [imdb.com]
Typical of humans... (Score:2)
- android
.Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC (Score:1)
Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC (Score:1)
When trying to watch this slightly off-standard signal on a pre-1970 TV, the picture will get squeezed or stretched vertically. However, when you watch it on a modern $100+ TV, the picture will come out just right.
Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC (Score:4, Informative)
This is why there is so much dicussion about the region coding - because there is no reason why any DVD cannot be played anywhere in the world, the 'region coding' has been added because the film industry has got very used to controlling when and where a product can be distributed by choosing what picture standard to release it in. By delaying PAL releases they have been able to release films later in UK cinemas without the cinema release clashing with tape sales and therefore decreases losses if the film is a flop.
I would guess that the BBC have decided to delay marketing this new DVD in the US, and so are pragmatically taking advantage of the region coding to see how it does over here first.
The only time a PAL/NTSC convertor might be useful is if a foreign DVD player were imported in order to play DVDs from another region, which at 100 dollars/pounds, it's quite a viable thing to do. Of course, here in the UK many off-the-shelf players will play any region.....
Re:Regarding the PAL vs. NTSC (Score:4, Informative)
...and of course frame rate. Even though the signal on the DVD is neither in NTSC nor PAL formats, the DVDs are made for either NTSC or PAL. The fact that the frame rate is the only thing that really separates the two types makes it an even bigger scandal that some players can't output both NTSC and PAL from any type of disc.
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Region 2 DVD??? (Score:3, Funny)
(No, and don't call me Shirley.)
Re:Don't you check noticeboard in Alpha Centauri (Score:1)
There's no point in acting all surprised about it. All the DVD zoning and global domination plans have been on display in your local RIAA office in Alpha Centauri for n f*cking years, so you've had plenty of time to lodge any formal complaint and it's far too late to start making a fuss about it now.
btw, did anyone release a Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy for PDA? It feels my imagination of the guide book.
Re:Don't you check noticeboard in Alpha Centauri (Score:1)
Re:Region 2 DVD??? (Score:2)
No, but obviously sector ZZ-9 Plural Z Alpha.
extras (Score:3, Interesting)
1. text of the original novels.
2. audio if the original radio show.
The mini-series was alright, entertaining at least. The radio show on the other hand was brilliant.
Re:extras (Score:2)
Indeed! I had the original radio shows on tape for a long time (taped from the radio), but the tapes have slowly been either chewed by tape decks or lost. The radio show had a significantly different plot in places... I prefer it.
Re:extras (Score:4, Interesting)
There is no "authoratative" version of the story. Douglas Adams kept making small changes to it every time it was published in a new medium. Even different BBC radio broadcasts were slightly different. I remember reading somewhere that he did this deliberately just to mess with the fans' heads, but I can't locate the reference. I daresay he would have insisted the DVD go out with yet another minor tweak to the story line.
Here's a quote from the Introduction to The Original Hitchhiker Radio Scripts:
Schwab
Re:extras (Score:2)
When he spoke at Oxford he said it was because he got bored writing the same story over again.
One change in the radio series was the change of the name of the worst poet from Niel Milne-Johnson (Adam's ex-roommate who wrote poetry) to Alice Jennings. His friend thought that being known for writing poetry worse than Vogon would be bad for his career.
Re:extras (Score:2)
Peace,
(jfb)
Re:extras (Score:2)
PG scans only public domain works (Score:2)
You can get the text of almost any book at Project Gutenberg (http://promo.net/pg/)
Yeah, but they won't take anything first published on or after 1923 because of the Bono Act [everything2.com]. You'll have to request it in one of the alt.binaries.e-book groups.
Re:extras (Score:2)
Re:extras (Score:2)
You can always buy the series from the BBC [bbc.co.uk] - but I'd spend the money on the Lord of The Rings CD set instead. The radio series of that was, well, superlative. It too is being rebroadcast (Radio 4, Sat 2.30-3.30pm, GMT of course) [bbc.co.uk].
Tom.
why on earth? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:why on earth? (Score:5, Insightful)
The purpose of region encoding is to ensure that a movie leaving US markets can be "staged" into foriegn markets
You're forgetting that other countries produce film material, too. The region coding in this case is to ensure EU marget gets served first before anyone else can get it.
Region encoding [...] serves no purpose other than to simultaneously reduce sales and annoy customers.
I couldn't agree more with this statement.
Now imagine that this would be the case for you almost every time a movie comes out on DVD. Annoying, eh?
Why would the BBC want to stop sales of this DVD to the US? The math is simple...more sales means more money ...
Your point is also valid viewed in the other perspective. Why would the US firms possibly want EU and other zones to wait sometimes 6 months or 1 year, to get the material on DVD ? See all the points above.. Makes no sense to me.
Re:why on earth? (Score:2, Insightful)
Granted, the original post was somewhat American-centric. However, I think his point still holds. This is not a film being released first to theatres and then to DVD/VHS, it is an old series finally making it to DVD. The "staging" he mentioned was referring to selling all the theatre tickets you can first, THEN selling all the rentals/DVDs/etc. The regions allow them to do this in all the various markets (even though the film isn't released to the theatres at the same time in various markets).
Now imagine that this would be the case for you almost every time a movie comes out on DVD. Annoying, eh?
Well, I agree that it's annoying, but as much as I hate to admit it I can sort of see the logic for Region encoding for films . I still don't like it, but I see the logic. Again, we weren't talking about movies here though -- just an old TV series. You had a point mentioning that the same holds true in when other countries are forced to wait when a US region DVD comes out -- but in most cases those are for films. The logic of region-encoding an old TV series simply escapes me -- no matter what region it's from.
Ah well, I still say ... 42.
Re:why on earth? (Score:2, Insightful)
Now Blue Planet is region 0 (i.e. will play on any player), but Fawlty Towers is region 2.
The only possible answer I could think of was that Blue Planet was a joint BBC / Discovery Channel production, and the Discovery Channel wanted to sell it outside Europe
Re:why on earth? (Score:5, Insightful)
The purpose of region encoding, from start to finish was to support differential pricing. The story about movie releases is a smokescreen. If the industry execs. stated that the purpose of zone encoding was to allow them to maintain DVD prices in Europe that were double those in the US they would end up in jail.
In fact they may still end up with a huge fine. The EU commission is investigating the DVD zone encoding scam and unlike the US regulators they are not easily bought off with Enron sized campaign contributions.
Re:why on earth? (Score:3, Informative)
The EU commission can fine a company up to approximately a years revenues from the products whose price was manipulated. So for the DVD scam the fine would be in the billions or tens of billions.
The EU commission has imposed fines of that scale in the past - they fined IBM 1 billion for anti-trust practices back in the 80s. There would be no way the studios could avoid paying since their assets in Europe (including copyrights) could be siezed to pay the fine.
The EU can also prohibit the sale of region locked DVD players, mandating all players sold in the EU to be multi-zone (with the exception of those for public audiences). This has already happened in New Zealand.
Ultimately the studios are in a weak position. They have a US corporate, Enronesque view of regulation.
Re:why on earth? (Score:2)
This is become less true all the time. Big films are now almost always released simultatinously in all the major markets.
Re:why on earth? (Score:1, Interesting)
Re:why on earth? (Score:1)
Different companies sometimes have the distribution rights in different markets. This is another use of region encoding.
Re:why on earth? (Score:1)
The reason for regions is not so much to prevent movies originating in the USA from reaching foreign viewers on DVD before the movies get there as much as prevent the foreigners from buing the US version much cheaper than the blatant overpriced region n+1 version (or is it the other way around? DVDs sold in countires with lower personal income must be sold cheaper, so the americans could reimport them cheaper?).
That is, it is a marketing ploy to AVOID a global market.
/RS
Licensing fees? (Score:2)
Re:why on earth? (Score:2)
I've not checked my other BBC DVDs to see if this is an exception or not. 8)
Anyway, if it is a Region 2, why not buy a multi region DVD player like we have to in Europe to watch Region 1 DVDs?
On a slightly different note, I've recently noticed a significant increase in the number of region 0 DVDs being released, so maybe there is (at least) a little hope for the future.
Not that this helps here, of course!
Re:Serves you right (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Because the BBC is a big pile of arse. (Score:2)
The BBC now has its own TV channel in the US - BBC America. When ATT called me up to try to get me to switch to digital cable they led their pitch with BBC America. Of course I have had Dish TV for that purpose for years (with PVR).
Dr Who has appeared on BBC America in the past and given the number of episodes they have and the time to fill it is likely to appear again. The price that PBS was paying was ludicrously low, in many cases $50 an episode, the BBC can make a much better return by marketting its product itself.
The other reason that the prices of BBC programs have been going up is that the actors have renegotiated their deal on repeat fees to include foreign markets. The BBC persuaded Equity that it will eventually turn BBC America into a 'must carry' cable channel which would give it a revenue equivalent to that of CNN. So Equity was prepared to take a lower up front pay raise in return for repeat fees on the US network.
Region two? (Score:2)
Re:Region two? (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Region two? (Score:2, Funny)
Heh. For once you guys in the US are suffering the consequences of this stupid region coding which was forced into the DVD standard. Now see how it feels to be on the other side of the atlantic for a change.
It's so often us (outside the US) which suffer from region coding, since virtually everything comes on region 1 before other regions, when at all.
rotfl :->
Re:Region two? (Score:2)
* That too, was an attempt at humor. Please laugh, or at least chuckle or grin.
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Re:Region two? (Score:1)
So, there is _no benefit at all_ for the consumer, only a limit for them.
Re:Region two? (Score:2, Informative)
First, you can get a "codeless" DVD player. These things ignore the region coding. They're a little expensive , though. But (!), the movie industry doesn't like these things, so they started releasing DVD's with a slightly modified region 1 code. Some of these DVD's will not play on a codeless player!
I'm not endorsing any vendors, but doing a search on Google with "codeless DVD" gives several links to places where you can buy these players. Usually they sell solutions for the PAL/NTSC (often built into the codeless players) and 110V/220V issue too.
Second, you can get a "multi-region" player. It just recognizes the region code, and adjusts itself as needed. A friend of mine has one of these. I think they can play any region DVD. Alas, they are also substantially more expensive than regular players.
A Google search for "multi-region DVD" also results in several links, however, the companies selling these seem to be mainly in the UK or Australia.
Re:Region two? (Score:2)
I loves the books.... (Score:2)
Why Region Encode? (Score:2)
Re:Why Region Encode? (Score:2, Insightful)
Region codes cut both ways... (Score:4, Insightful)
How about a trade? We get the BBC to release the six episodes of HHG in region 1 over here, and we'll give them 26 episodes of ST:TNG for region 2 in return. I think we'd come out better on the deal, but hopefully the Brits will be too busy watching the ST:TNG episodes to notice.
Re:Region codes cut both ways... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Region codes cut both ways... (Score:3, Informative)
No way... (Score:2)
StarTrek for HHGG ? I think not. On the oneside we have one of the funniest and best scripted Sci-Fi programmes of all time, on the otherside we have a very large budget and bipeds...
HHGG is the question as well as the answer
Hardly worth waiting for (Score:1, Insightful)
I have owned the BBC series on VHS for years and the tapes slowly gather dust.
The production is cheap and outdated, moves far too slowly, has very few entertaining spots, and the acting is not that great either.
The original radio sketches were far better.
Oh yes, and Trillian is blonde.
better than PBS! (Score:1)
available on shopBBC (Score:1)
http://www.bbcshop.com/bbc_shop/default.asp?sho
They do state that in fact this is a region 2 DVD. I imagine if enough Americans wrote the BBC to complain, they would change this. That's a lot of revenue to give up!
Re:available on shopBBC (Score:1, Informative)
Americans - you will be able to get this for your players.
Re:available on shopBBC (Score:1)
My guess is that it will become available under a different distributor in the US.
But, we're Americans, and we want it NOW! (That's what it means to be an American, non?)
Re:available on shopBBC (Score:2)
I explained I was really looking forward to purchasing a DVD of one of my favourite (spelling intentional, when in Rome...) series, but was vastly disappointed to learn that they had chosen to encode it for Europe (region 2) only.
I wonder what kind of response I'll get...
If I get one in a timely fashion, I'll follow up my own post and place the information in this thread.
If you go to write, don't forget to site the ISBN number for this product, specifically: ISBN: BBCDVD1092
REGION 1 RELEASE - APRIL 2002 (Score:2)
From: Laura Palmer address_removed@bbc.co.uk
Subject: RE: This is feedback the BBC Web Shop
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:04:37 -0000
"Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" will be released on DVD in North
America in late April.
Available only through a PBS pledge drive (Score:1, Funny)
BBC DVD region coding (Score:5, Informative)
Re:BBC DVD region coding (Score:1)
Secure Video Path; telecine (Score:3, Insightful)
The computers I've seen that have a video-out(Composite or S-Video) usually allow for the output to TV to be set to either NTSC or PAL.
Yes, but they also allow apps (such as DVD player) to override such a setting. Otherwise, the drivers probably won't get Microsoft's signature. I haven't read anything important about this exact issue, but if MS Secure Audio Path [pineight.com] is any indication of the direction Microsoft is heading for the operating system that will come with your next PC...
Besides, the telecine method is different. With a 50Hz video technology like PAL, they just speed the 24Hz film up 4% and draw each film frame into two video fields. In 60Hz formats such as NTSC or PAL-M, they draw each frame for three fields, then two, then three, then two... I doubt that most DVD players can convert NTSC telecine to PAL telecine or vice versa, so they just output the format that most closely matches the encoded frame-rate.
Re:BBC DVD region coding (Score:3, Insightful)
As far as I'm aware, if your dvd player can output in plain RGB and your TV can support 60Hz RGB input, then you should be able to watch any format video on it.
I realise thats a bit of a problem in the US where most TV's have only [video + L audio + R audio] inputs. If only you all had the all encompassing SCART connector on all your TV's!!!
"If you're not scared, then you're not going fast enough"
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Re:BBC DVD region coding (Score:2)
I know that I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing HHGttG dubbed into American, just like the Region 1 releases of "Walking With Dinosaurs" and "The Planets". Enough of those stuffy British accents, I say!
Go get the Mega-Adams.tar (Score:4, Informative)
Babelfish Technology (Score:3, Funny)
Just insert the DVD and let the fish do the rest.
:)
I'd get this but... (Score:2, Insightful)
The sum total of Ed Bye's "direction" seems to have been to just stick the camera in the middle of the set and make the actors run through long scenes in one (often awkward and badly timed) take. It's like watching a stageplay that hasn't been rehearsed, only a stageplay wouldn't have been lit with 40,000 flourescent tubes. Even worse is that they changed Trillian from a no-nonsense scientist type into a squeaking brainless gangster-moll. I'm not sure who was behind that decision but her performence alone is bad enough to make you want to shove a fork in your eye. There's a few points that are kinda ok, like the sequence on the Vogon ship, but overall it's a mess.
I grew up with and love the radio series and the books. I really want to see this as a show/movie done right, and I only hope that DA's death won't derail the plans for the movie.
Re:I'd get this but... (Score:2, Insightful)
The added advantage with the radio series is that it is made available on region free media, ie CD and audio-tape.
Re:I'd get this but... (Score:2)
seriously, it's bad. laughable. almost as if it was done intentionally to make the humo(u)r have to carry the series, which it did. admirably.
anyhow, don't make a big fuss about how awful the directing or photography was. if you were a fan of Dr. Who, you'd think HHGttG was a Bergman film by comparison...
Off-Topic: The Whale (Score:5, Funny)
This is easily one of my most favorite of Adams' explanations on where he got an idea. This is a quote from The Original Hitchhiker Radio Scripts:
Schwab
Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience (Score:3, Insightful)
Given that we also have MP, Blackadder, and Faulty Towers now out on R1 DVD sets, I very much doubt BBC is *stupid* enough to not put out a HHGTTG R1 DVD.
Re:Patience, Region 1'ers, Patience (Score:2)
The Prisoner was by Polygram, currently owned by Carlton TV [carlton.com]. It was a commercial TV series, not from the BBC.
Cheers,
Ian
why bother (Score:2, Insightful)
Region encoding... (Score:2)
Note to whoever: Release it region 1 in a timely fashion (i.e. like how about at the same time) and I would buy this. Release it late, it will get ripped and distributed all over the net, and I won't feel particularly guilty about copying it. You will never be able to prove that you lost money from me, because you will have to prove that I would have bought a region 2 dvd player and your flic.
You know what? Pretty much goes the same for over seas. I don't think that other countries should be deprived of our cinema just because you are staging releases all over.
It's only fair (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not trolling, I'm just bitter.
This is terrible!!! (Score:3, Funny)
I've seen this. (Score:3, Informative)
The second DVD is stuffed to the gills with extras, some of which have never been seen before.
It's a tremendous package and an essential purchase for all Hitch-Hiker fans.
Towel Day (Score:2, Informative)
"Normality, I repeat, we have reached normality. Anything you can't cope with is therefore your own problem."
Re:So help a brother out (Score:3, Informative)
However, you also need to have a DVD-ROM drive that is region-agnostic. You can check this with DVD Genie, one of the tabs in the program allows for this. If the drive is RPC-1(Region Protection Control, I think), your drive doesn't care what region encoding the disc has, and all you need is DVD Genie. Most drives are RPC-2, though, meaning that it will allow for a certain number of discs from different regions to be played before it "locks" on the final one, usually the fifth switch. Many can be changed to RPC-1 by installing different firmware(I did this with the drives on both my desktop and my notebook.). The best place I know to find region-free firmware is The Firmware Page [club-internet.fr].
Good luck to you.